I know Burton are a poorly supported club but hats off to anyone that watches them home and away. They might actually be more mental than our hardcore lot. Fuck me they’re shit.
Don’t let the result paper over the enormous problems we have with this manager.
Did Luton actually play this way when he was manager, or is he capable of a Plan B?
Early days it was often shite according to my mate who is a Luton lad. But then it finally clicked, but don't ever expect expansive football. His nature was a little more random than even now, but that is just NJ I think. He has tried to control that since the Premiership experience.
It also took him a little while to get a tune out of a team.
Rather than clicking, we seem to have the clucking of a bunch of clueless chickens at present. I just wish he would introduce some of his randomness into the team rather than this repetitive and ineffectual long ball stuff.
At the game, we weren't very good. No flair or cutting edge as usual. Diagonal ball nothing else. Changed abit when TC came on, for no other reason than they were aware of his pace and control. This is not the start of a run trust me.
Mate that's the biggest understatement of all time!
What was the feeling amongst you heroes who travelled to watch that rubbish? Were people getting really annoyed or was there just a grim acceptance that we are rubbish? Any calls for Jones to go?
It just got quieter and quieter, with a few ' sort it out Jones'. Overall a very subdued crowd , even when we scored
Most interesting part of that interview is that we stayed up after Huddersfield which explains why no Dixon or Asiimwe in the squad for either. Clearly felt the senior cup was a good opportunity for them
Don’t let the result paper over the enormous problems we have with this manager.
Did Luton actually play this way when he was manager, or is he capable of a Plan B?
Early days it was often shite according to my mate who is a Luton lad. But then it finally clicked, but don't ever expect expansive football. His nature was a little more random than even now, but that is just NJ I think. He has tried to control that since the Premiership experience.
It also took him a little while to get a tune out of a team.
Rather than clicking, we seem to have the clucking of a bunch of clueless chickens at present. I just wish he would introduce some of his randomness into the team rather than this repetitive and ineffectual long ball stuff.
One thing he does need is players believing in him. When they do they will give everything for the team. I suppose the question is do we have that from them all?
I also don't enjoy the tactics currently, and don't remember Luton being all hoof ball. Although only watched them under Nathan 4 times. I'll ask the question to my mate though, would be interesting to see if this is a Luton or a Stoke for him.
I honestly think Nathan hasn't got the balance right just yet (obviously), and so he is trying this system to grind results out until he can change a few players... But I might be clutching straws..
Even so tonight has made me buy tickets for Lincoln. Hope it is bloody warmer than last time
Watched that garbage on IPTV and I still feel robbed.
Anyone talking about going on a run is fucking insane. We just struggled to beat one of the worst teams in the history of football and almost certainly wouldn’t have won if their player didn’t lose his head.
For most of the game we played like a team that was one down in a cup match with ten minutes to go, with the ball constantly hoofed into the last third of the field, usually pretty aimlessly.
There were occasions, rate admittedly, when we strung more than three passes together, mainly when Coventry pushed further forward after Taylor came on. I quite liked him in that position and I'd like to see him there again; Taylor can cover the defensive position and provide those dead balls. He could replace Anderson. I can't see why Anderson is a regular starter. He will develop but at the moment he gives the ball away too often and is adding very little.
Still, three points is three points. A few more please.
Most interesting part of that interview is that we stayed up after Huddersfield which explains why no Dixon or Asiimwe in the squad for either. Clearly felt the senior cup was a good opportunity for them
Or saving on hotel costs and train fares for them.
Stubborn and disillusioned. Demand better and show us you want more without being a 100mph nutter.
- controlled the game - hard done by weekend - difficult place to go
This is the same guy that outed players after the reading game when we won our first three.
It’s one extreme to the other, I just dunno what to make of him. Do the players?
Maybe he's listened to the players (or someone) and learned that he went a bit over the top earlier in the season and is trying to be more reserved post game. His interviews have been calmer for a while now
Stubborn and disillusioned. Demand better and show us you want more without being a 100mph nutter.
- controlled the game - hard done by weekend - difficult place to go
This is the same guy that outed players after the reading game when we won our first three.
It’s one extreme to the other, I just dunno what to make of him. Do the players?
Maybe he's listened to the players (or someone) and learned that he went a bit over the top earlier in the season and is trying to be more reserved post game. His interviews have been calmer for a while now
They’ve been less vindictive but he don’t watch the same games as us, he can’t do. It’s difficult when we don’t even know what to expect with no obvious game plan.
Stubborn and disillusioned. Demand better and show us you want more without being a 100mph nutter.
- controlled the game - hard done by weekend - difficult place to go
This is the same guy that outed players after the reading game when we won our first three.
It’s one extreme to the other, I just dunno what to make of him. Do the players?
Maybe he's listened to the players (or someone) and learned that he went a bit over the top earlier in the season and is trying to be more reserved post game. His interviews have been calmer for a while now
They’ve been less vindictive but he don’t watch the same games as us, he can’t do. It’s difficult when we don’t even know what to expect with no obvious game plan.
Of course he does, he just can't be as honest in public. Those interviews are all PR, he can't say everything was crap. It's not like he didn't criticise the team at all
Just watched the highlights back after getting back from the land of Flemish speakers. Fair play to Conor, 2 shots for the goal , both taken well and on target. Great save for the first by their keeper. But to then have the composure to drive the second one into the right spot for a goal. Lots of bodies in the way so fair play
Burton are so so so so shit. The worst I've seen in the longest time. We were our usual selves, uncreative, unaggressive, mostly uninterested but we still got 3 points. We haven't stolen the win because it would have been a travesty if a team as bad as Burton didn't lose but equally we didn't do much to win it and needed a red card and for Conor Coventry to be awake while everyone else was in slow motion to score.
Doesn't feel particularly like a win because Burton really were terrible. We still don't have the aggression to offset the lack of creativity. It's just Coventry pressing everything on everyone else's behalf. Berry hid, Anderson didn't hide but I sort of wish he had after a point. REG isn't a right back or anything really so all wide play has to go through Edwards. I would kill for a RB who just ran up and down the width of the pitch. It can't be that much to ask. Further forward Godden looked like he was trying to speak English to people who only know sign language. Just couldn't get on anyone else's wavelength because there wasn't another wavelength to get on, just dead air. Ahadme did some good stuff and some not good stuff. For every decent flick there was a bad touch, for the good header he forced the keeper to save there was the one where he just needed to put it either side of the keeper and nodded it straight at him. Cancelled himself out. Leaburn was bloody awful. Doesn't want to pass anymore, wants to shoot. If there's no space to shoot he'll do a stepover until he can shoot or he loses the ball. I would really like him to start playing with the team instead of actively against it but it feels a bit like he's got a Miles Leaburn wallchart he's trying to fill out ahead of a transfer. His call. TC fell over almost every time he got the ball despite this being a match where he should have tied them in knots.
Once we scored Burton had to wake up and I'll wake up in the night thinking about how we suddenly made a team that bad with 10 men look dangerous purely by not being able to get hold of the ball. It was only when Danny Hylton came on that anyone seemed to have the common sense to get hold of it, slow it down, draw a foul, take forever to get up off the ground and then slow it down again. Fair play to him because he gets players to follow on from him. He got TC, Taylor and Small getting close to him and copying what he was doing and injury time became a calm period of throw ins and referee intervention. I can actually see how he'd make a decent coach.
Special thanks to Charlie Webster for being Burton's only good player and an idiot. Let Terry Taylor completely rile him up and cost his team the game. I think we'll do incredibly well to see a team as rancid as Burton again but 3 points is 3 points. Hopefully we can build something from that and it's an away win on the board. We're 5 points off the play-offs going into December and on balance I'll take it, we just need to go on a run and hopefully get something good from football Santa in the transfer window
This says it all.
I'm not going to say a wins a win because even an U11's team would have beaten Burton tonight. Worse team I've seen in a long time & we only just won it. Although we were the team most likely to score we made very hard work of it & only won because they went down to 10 men. And it wasn't the fact of numerical.advantage but the fact the player sent off was the best player on the pitch.
The fact that we are only 5 points of 6th place just shows what a shit league this is. There are 3 or 4 teams that will stretch away from the pack & will leave 8 or 9 teams fighting 2 play off spots. We might have made up some ground tonight but if you look at the form guide (last 6 matches) we are still way off the pace.
Tonight showed that we have enough to avoid getting sucked into the relegation scrap but so far away from being able to mount any serious attempt to get into a fight for the play offs.
Crazy to think we're only 5 points off play offs. A decent run and we're right in the mix
Four of the next six league games are at home. If we can pick up some points, and by some miracle buy some decent non-Luton, non-Ipswich players in the transfer window.... we might make top 10.
I can't see us buying anyone. Methven said we had too many players and need to reduce the squad size in January. Perhaps we can get rid of say 4 and bring in a couple of freebies or loans (Jones doesn't like loans).
In fact it would appear that Jones doesn't like our players passing (probably why he doesn't play Taylor). Doesn't like skillful players (which is why he got rid of any wingers). Doesn't like goal scorers which is why he got rid of May and brought in Ahadme.
This was the worst winning performance from a Charlton team that I can recall. We make no attempt to play football, there's a reason why we have no cohesion, it's because as soon as we get the ball, we simply boot it down the pitch and give it straight back.
We look absolutely clueless and that is down to our crazy gibbering twat of a manager.
Did Jones play hoof ball when he was at our Academy? Why is he persisting with this anti football crap?
Why did he recruit a total midfield of defensive plodders?
I'm at a complete loss to understand what on earth goes on in his head and we'll never know because he is unable to answer a single question coherently.
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Presumably just a slight knock. Just as we were told Aneke, Jones and Kanu injuries were and we haven't seen any of those 3 since the Birmingham game.
And I'm sure a psychiatrist would have a field day analysing his body language.
Anyone talking about going on a run is fucking insane. We just struggled to beat one of the worst teams in the history of football and almost certainly wouldn’t have won if their player didn’t lose his head.
There were occasions, rate admittedly, when we strung more than three passes together, mainly when Coventry pushed further forward after Taylor came on. I quite liked him in that position and I'd like to see him there again; Taylor can cover the defensive position and provide those dead balls. He could replace Anderson. I can't see why Anderson is a regular starter. He will develop but at the moment he gives the ball away too often and is adding very little.
Still, three points is three points. A few more please.
- controlled the game
- hard done by weekend
- difficult place to go
This is the same guy that outed players after the reading game when we won our first three.
I'm not going to say a wins a win because even an U11's team would have beaten Burton tonight. Worse team I've seen in a long time & we only just won it. Although we were the team most likely to score we made very hard work of it & only won because they went down to 10 men. And it wasn't the fact of numerical.advantage but the fact the player sent off was the best player on the pitch.
The fact that we are only 5 points of 6th place just shows what a shit league this is. There are 3 or 4 teams that will stretch away from the pack & will leave 8 or 9 teams fighting 2 play off spots. We might have made up some ground tonight but if you look at the form guide (last 6 matches) we are still way off the pace.
Tonight showed that we have enough to avoid getting sucked into the relegation scrap but so far away from being able to mount any serious attempt to get into a fight for the play offs.
Woeful.
So not like Stockport who beat them 3-0 last Saturday.
Methven said we had too many players and need to reduce the squad size in January.
Perhaps we can get rid of say 4 and bring in a couple of freebies or loans (Jones doesn't like loans).
In fact it would appear that Jones doesn't like our players passing (probably why he doesn't play Taylor).
Doesn't like skillful players (which is why he got rid of any wingers).
Doesn't like goal scorers which is why he got rid of May and brought in Ahadme.
This was the worst winning performance from a Charlton team that I can recall.
We make no attempt to play football, there's a reason why we have no cohesion, it's because as soon as we get the ball, we simply boot it down the pitch and give it straight back.
We look absolutely clueless and that is down to our crazy gibbering twat of a manager.
Did Jones play hoof ball when he was at our Academy?
Why is he persisting with this anti football crap?
Why did he recruit a total midfield of defensive plodders?
I'm at a complete loss to understand what on earth goes on in his head and we'll never know because he is unable to answer a single question coherently.