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POST-MATCH THREAD: Burton Albion V Charlton Athletic : Tuesday 26th November 2024 : KO 19:45
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Agree. It's also tough on the midfield as they're frequently bypassed with "hoofs" forward. Is Jones really telling Gillesphey (in particular) to hit it long every time? So frustrating to watchBailey said:
That's probably a reflection on the midfield that has been brought in to improve that area. I also think, as much as I'm not a fan of Campbell, Berry or Docherty, it's no coincidence that they are not the only ones to fail to shine in this squad. It's easy to see where our most successful players have been this season, Jones, Ramsay, Edwards and possibly Alex Mitchell, all defenders, so what does that tell you about the way this side is told to approach games ? Nearly everyone of our midfielders have been rotated, if that's the word, with only Coventry being a constant, Godden and a returning Leaburn have held down places in the last few weeks but we have had Kanu, Ahadme, Tyreece Campbell also rotated, with Hylton appearing from the bench. Simply put, with all our best defenders available we are consistent at the back, everywhere else, we are not.thenewbie said:
Its a fair point but frankly "being better than Alan Campbell" is not really a very high bar to clear. It's not exactly a resounding commendation.seth plum said:Karoy Anderson was twenty years old eight weeks ago.
Not finished, just started.
He is a battler at the moment, gaining experience in a poor domestic team, but also gaining experience as an international player.
Eight weeks after turning twenty.
I would pick him over Docherty, Alan Campbell, and Luke Berry, of the midfielders listed on the official site, only Coventry and Taylor would be my pick ahead of him, and even then it would be marginal, Tayo Edun would come next, but that is because we haven’t seen much of him amongst the dross and there is little to criticise about him this season.
Go on, who would pick, for example, Alan Campbell ahead of Anderson?0 -
I would probably pick Anderson over a lot you just named, but it doesnt mean he is good enough. It's often hard to tell if Anderson is attempting a 50 yard pass or its just his first touch.seth plum said:Karoy Anderson was twenty years old eight weeks ago.
Not finished, just started.
He is a battler at the moment, gaining experience in a poor domestic team, but also gaining experience as an international player.
Eight weeks after turning twenty.
I would pick him over Docherty, Alan Campbell, and Luke Berry, of the midfielders listed on the official site, only Coventry and Taylor would be my pick ahead of him, and even then it would be marginal, Tayo Edun would come next, but that is because we haven’t seen much of him amongst the dross and there is little to criticise about him this season.
Go on, who would pick, for example, Alan Campbell ahead of Anderson?12 -
My last sentence was supposed to cover your point, but for the avoidance of doubt, you are right. Both are trying, even though Godden vanishes a lot during games. He takes a mean penalty and thats not to be underestimated. But when Alfie May was on the pitch for us, he was never missing, even if some said he was selfish. His technique is better than Godden’s generally, and he rarely misplaced a pass. Godden is a bit stronger in the air. Ahadme is a tryer. That is patently not sufficient especialy if we paid big money for him. If Jones had been told at the beginning that he has to manage our highest value player effectively, rather than humiliate him for whatever reason,SporadicAddick said:
Should it be a criticism of them, or Jones and Scott?PragueAddick said:
I was almost euphoric about his Southend winner. It was a complete flash in the pan.killerandflash said:Ahadme shows some nice touches BUT he doesn't look like someone who will score many goals, as he's not sharp enough in the box, and his heading isn't that great either.If Alfie May had started for us tonight, he’d have had two goals probably by half-time, even with this shit around him. That is a criticism not just of Ahadme but Godden too. Although i like Godden, he’s not a patch on May, that much is now evident. And in turn it is evident that Jones treatment of May backe end of last season was indeed the strong warning sign that I feared at the time.
They didn't agree their transfer fees, they didn't pretend to be players they are not, they aren't deciding the set up or system.
This sits with recruitment and tactics, not the individual players.
Unless a player is evidently not trying, and I don't see that with either of them, it sits with leadership.
we would not be having this conversation.4 -
He was average and lucky not to get a sending off 5 mins in. I'm not saying it was a red but he wanst looking at the ball and jumped elbow first in to the defender.king addick said:
Fairly sure he won more than half last night?agim said:
"If God had wanted us to play football in the clouds, he'd of put grass up there"king addick said:Think in terms of link up and winning headers, I think it was Gas's best game for us and if he had that booking, might have seen out the 90 and maybe ended up with a goal.
Do need to see more of that of course but it was a good platform to build on.
We deserved the win though we weren't great but we needed the win, one way or another.
Gas is a lump it forward target man that doesn't win half his headers. Atrocious player that I'm sure when he leaves us (probably in the summer) he will drop down to League Two or maybe even National League.
Certainly not saying he is world beater but he played well last night.1 -
One thing that REALLY irritated me (whilst watching on TV), was when we got a throw in the attacking third (late on before our goal), and when the player with the ball (it was often Edwards) is looking for a player to show for him, with any sense of urgency, All too often players within 10-15 yards, were just strolling away with their backs to him. It winds me right up to see such a lack of enthusiasm. I'm not sure if it is a bit of time wasting, or as Cabbles points out, people just don't want the ball and they will be the one the attention shifts towards, ala pass-the-parcel with a grenade.cabbles said:It was a dire game, one we would have only taken a point from had they not gone down to 10 men.We could hardly string 3 passes together and so many players genuinely look uncomfortable with a football at their feet and I include Leaburn in that.Adhame has got to be one of worst players ever to have worn the shirt. He has the pace of someone who’s just taken a hit of spice and the strength of a match stick. Yet another atrocious imitation of a footballer we’ve been exposed to in recent years.Anderson, although young, shows very little technical ability and despite being ‘one of our own’ needs a loan to league 2 or below. League one looks above his level.The Godden, Leaburn, Adhame front three was horrible to watch and those three mix like oil and water
I truly believe that if we front up like that again on Sat, Walsall will get a win. Burton’s lack of quality was a huge factor in us not getting shown up for the ramshackle pathetic excuse we are
Why when we are chasing 3 desperately needed points, is this the attitude or tactic?
Conversely, when we have a free-kick, the dead-ball player is usually desperate to launch it into the car park, before a single player has stopped checking their shopping list for their weekly shop!!
I'd love for us to do a Wrexham and have the cameras in on our training seasons as the results they produce, would appear to suggest that they tend to sit around eating Cheetos, listening to whatever they all listen to on their headphones (very antisocial) and updating Instagram!
One thing I noticed on the pre-match video of the team bus arriving at Burton. A young Burton fan was standing on the barrier asking for OUR players autographs. Most ignored his requests, but I saw NJ, AMB and one other go over to him. This small act of decency warmed me somewhat. Despite the seemingly insignificant effort required, I see this behaviour (the good and not so) as being what is good and otherwise about football today. Well done to those that made that youngster's day.
Final point: 1749 turned up last night. That's correct, less than 1800 people. Total respect to Burton fans for going along when it really must already feel like relegation is the only possible outcome for this season. Also respect to our 300 hardy souls, with most probably having endured Huddersfield and the awful journey home at the weekend.
So. When did we last take part in a league game with a crowd so low?
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Alfie May frequently went missing and also threw hissy fits when he didn’t get the ball which Godden doesn’t at all. May is a great player but there’s no need to pretend he didn’t have bad gamesPragueAddick said:
My last sentence was supposed to cover your point, but for the avoidance of doubt, you are right. Both are trying, even though Godden vanishes a lot during games. He takes a mean penalty and thats not to be underestimated. But when Alfie May was on the pitch for us, he was never missing, even if some said he was selfish. His technique is better than Godden’s generally, and he rarely misplaced a pass. Godden is a bit stronger in the air. Ahadme is a tryer. That is patently not sufficient especialy if we paid big money for him. If Jones had been told at the beginning that he has to manage our highest value player effectively, rather than humiliate him for whatever reason,SporadicAddick said:
Should it be a criticism of them, or Jones and Scott?PragueAddick said:
I was almost euphoric about his Southend winner. It was a complete flash in the pan.killerandflash said:Ahadme shows some nice touches BUT he doesn't look like someone who will score many goals, as he's not sharp enough in the box, and his heading isn't that great either.If Alfie May had started for us tonight, he’d have had two goals probably by half-time, even with this shit around him. That is a criticism not just of Ahadme but Godden too. Although i like Godden, he’s not a patch on May, that much is now evident. And in turn it is evident that Jones treatment of May backe end of last season was indeed the strong warning sign that I feared at the time.
They didn't agree their transfer fees, they didn't pretend to be players they are not, they aren't deciding the set up or system.
This sits with recruitment and tactics, not the individual players.
Unless a player is evidently not trying, and I don't see that with either of them, it sits with leadership.
we would not be having this conversation.7 -
Lots of questions on here about the injuries and how/why.So get signed up for the Trust AGM on video tomorrow evening and you can actually put your questions to Dr Wíll Abbott. And if you can’t be arsed, what’s the point of asking such questions on here? Nobody here knows the answers. But he does.5
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TC, Berry, Taylor, Godden and Leaburn all must start when available. At least there’s some positive forward motion with them involved.
Get Jones back next to Mitchell and surely we’re a top 6 side? This league is woeful and I’d rather see us have a go then see the pump it long and try grinding out a 1-0 that we’ve been served up so far.Hopefully a win on Saturday and another on Tuesday can forge some much needed momentum and we go on a bit of a run.3 -
What may have been a factor is that the pass to him wasn't deemed to be a pass but a 50/50 challenge that squirmed to Campbell off the Burton player.golfaddick said:
Definitely offside imo. He was at least 10 yards inside their half when the ball was played.......if not he's the next Usan Bolt as when he received the ball he was half way into their half.oohaahmortimer said:How far offside was TC when put through , did he run from his own half he looked 5 yards off
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I think the final 2-3 minutes of stoppage time spoke volumes. Our players trying to keep possession in and around Burton’s corner flag to see out the win vs 10 men. Benny Hill WTF GIF comes to mind.I hope the win gives the squad the lift it needs, but fear they have come to accept their limitations, as have we.
Anderson needs a loan at L2 level - he looks like he is going backwards. He cares, he runs, but all other aspects are looking sh*tter by the week. No positive consistency whatsoever.Ahadme I just don’t really get. He is like I was as a 10 year old high jumper at school. I was tall, a good attribute to have for high jump, and put every ounce of effort into getting over that increasingly higher bar, but have to admit I was also a chubby little fcuker which kind of held me back, my arris hit that bar more often than I thought fair or possible and meant I never came close to a medal. Point being some positive attributes and a lot of effort does not make you the winning real deal and if we want to compete for promotion or even the higher end of the table, we need some of that in our forwards. We are not a charity…and fear we have been mugged off with this signing.My main enjoyment watching the games this season is NJ’s touchline reactions and antics. That should be a distraction not my go to source for entertainment when paying to watch a game of football.The recruitment team need to be brave and do the things which help deliver the balance and options required to compete more effectively. Injuries are only part of the story, this squad needs surgery.5 - Sponsored links:
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Persuaded the other half not to switch over to I’m a celebrity at 9 as I was convinced at some point in the second half I would witness live on TV the resurrection of Jeremy Beadle.1
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It will be fascinating to see if he will tell you what is wrong with our injured players and when they are likely to be back. (Or in Aneke's case, if he will ever be back).PragueAddick said:Lots of questions on here about the injuries and how/why.So get signed up for the Trust AGM on video tomorrow evening and you can actually put your questions to Dr Wíll Abbott. And if you can’t be arsed, what’s the point of asking such questions on here? Nobody here knows the answers. But he does.
I just don't get why this has to be clouded in such secrecy.
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Don't see many games these days, none attending, but some via a stream. Not missing much if that was anything to go by, and every time I do sit through one, it never seems to get any better, although the players plying their trade "entertaining" me do change. That said, I didn't think Ahadme was half as bad as some have been making out, and if he missed open goals, then so did I.
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I dont even Aneke in the squad anymore, I just assume he is injured. If he is available for the squad i just take it as a little bonus. Fella has to be gone in summer, even if he offered to play for free the amount of resources he must take from the medical room must make it uneconomical.Fortune 82nd Minute said:
It will be fascinating to see if he will tell you what is wrong with our injured players and when they are likely to be back. (Or in Aneke's case, if he will ever be back).PragueAddick said:Lots of questions on here about the injuries and how/why.So get signed up for the Trust AGM on video tomorrow evening and you can actually put your questions to Dr Wíll Abbott. And if you can’t be arsed, what’s the point of asking such questions on here? Nobody here knows the answers. But he does.
I just don't get why this has to be clouded in such secrecy.0 -
Suppose we do show some form in the New Year and somehow finish in 6th place. Then we upset the 3rd place team - reach Wembley and courtesy of a generous ref - I know but it might happen - we get a penalty in the 90th minute. Godden scores - pretty good penalty taker to be fair - and we reach the Championship. Immediately installed as favourites for relegation we come straight back down again. If as some on here say some of our players are barely L2 standard we have no chance in Championship. I have to ask - what is the point.0
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Paragraphs.Garrymanilow said:Burton are so so so so shit. The worst I've seen in the longest time. We were our usual selves, uncreative, unaggressive, mostly uninterested but we still got 3 points. We haven't stolen the win because it would have been a travesty if a team as bad as Burton didn't lose but equally we didn't do much to win it and needed a red card and for Conor Coventry to be awake while everyone else was in slow motion to score.Doesn't feel particularly like a win because Burton really were terrible. We still don't have the aggression to offset the lack of creativity. It's just Coventry pressing everything on everyone else's behalf. Berry hid, Anderson didn't hide but I sort of wish he had after a point. REG isn't a right back or anything really so all wide play has to go through Edwards. I would kill for a RB who just ran up and down the width of the pitch. It can't be that much to ask. Further forward Godden looked like he was trying to speak English to people who only know sign language. Just couldn't get on anyone else's wavelength because there wasn't another wavelength to get on, just dead air. Ahadme did some good stuff and some not good stuff. For every decent flick there was a bad touch, for the good header he forced the keeper to save there was the one where he just needed to put it either side of the keeper and nodded it straight at him. Cancelled himself out. Leaburn was bloody awful. Doesn't want to pass anymore, wants to shoot. If there's no space to shoot he'll do a stepover until he can shoot or he loses the ball. I would really like him to start playing with the team instead of actively against it but it feels a bit like he's got a Miles Leaburn wallchart he's trying to fill out ahead of a transfer. His call. TC fell over almost every time he got the ball despite this being a match where he should have tied them in knots.Once we scored Burton had to wake up and I'll wake up in the night thinking about how we suddenly made a team that bad with 10 men look dangerous purely by not being able to get hold of the ball. It was only when Danny Hylton came on that anyone seemed to have the common sense to get hold of it, slow it down, draw a foul, take forever to get up off the ground and then slow it down again. Fair play to him because he gets players to follow on from him. He got TC, Taylor and Small getting close to him and copying what he was doing and injury time became a calm period of throw ins and referee intervention. I can actually see how he'd make a decent coach.Special thanks to Charlie Webster for being Burton's only good player and an idiot. Let Terry Taylor completely rile him up and cost his team the game. I think we'll do incredibly well to see a team as rancid as Burton again but 3 points is 3 points. Hopefully we can build something from that and it's an away win on the board. We're 5 points off the play-offs going into December and on balance I'll take it, we just need to go on a run and hopefully get something good from football Santa in the transfer window
Where are the paragraphs?
You get a migraine trying to read this without them.
Apart from that it's spot on.9 -
If our defence put in as many big blocks as Garry we'd be flyingCovered End said:
Paragraphs.Garrymanilow said:Burton are so so so so shit. The worst I've seen in the longest time. We were our usual selves, uncreative, unaggressive, mostly uninterested but we still got 3 points. We haven't stolen the win because it would have been a travesty if a team as bad as Burton didn't lose but equally we didn't do much to win it and needed a red card and for Conor Coventry to be awake while everyone else was in slow motion to score.Doesn't feel particularly like a win because Burton really were terrible. We still don't have the aggression to offset the lack of creativity. It's just Coventry pressing everything on everyone else's behalf. Berry hid, Anderson didn't hide but I sort of wish he had after a point. REG isn't a right back or anything really so all wide play has to go through Edwards. I would kill for a RB who just ran up and down the width of the pitch. It can't be that much to ask. Further forward Godden looked like he was trying to speak English to people who only know sign language. Just couldn't get on anyone else's wavelength because there wasn't another wavelength to get on, just dead air. Ahadme did some good stuff and some not good stuff. For every decent flick there was a bad touch, for the good header he forced the keeper to save there was the one where he just needed to put it either side of the keeper and nodded it straight at him. Cancelled himself out. Leaburn was bloody awful. Doesn't want to pass anymore, wants to shoot. If there's no space to shoot he'll do a stepover until he can shoot or he loses the ball. I would really like him to start playing with the team instead of actively against it but it feels a bit like he's got a Miles Leaburn wallchart he's trying to fill out ahead of a transfer. His call. TC fell over almost every time he got the ball despite this being a match where he should have tied them in knots.Once we scored Burton had to wake up and I'll wake up in the night thinking about how we suddenly made a team that bad with 10 men look dangerous purely by not being able to get hold of the ball. It was only when Danny Hylton came on that anyone seemed to have the common sense to get hold of it, slow it down, draw a foul, take forever to get up off the ground and then slow it down again. Fair play to him because he gets players to follow on from him. He got TC, Taylor and Small getting close to him and copying what he was doing and injury time became a calm period of throw ins and referee intervention. I can actually see how he'd make a decent coach.Special thanks to Charlie Webster for being Burton's only good player and an idiot. Let Terry Taylor completely rile him up and cost his team the game. I think we'll do incredibly well to see a team as rancid as Burton again but 3 points is 3 points. Hopefully we can build something from that and it's an away win on the board. We're 5 points off the play-offs going into December and on balance I'll take it, we just need to go on a run and hopefully get something good from football Santa in the transfer window
Where are the paragraphs?
You get a migraine trying to read this without them.
Apart from that it's spot on.6 -
So so lacklustre in also every area last night.Pro’s that take 3 touches to control a ball. Poor pass selection and execution of passes.We can’t lump that on NJ, but it took them to go to 10 men for us to have any space in the midfield.Tactics and playing style is NJ department.Launching long ball after long ball for it only to come straight back is dinosaur football from the 60s.Had the Burton player stayed on I think they might have got a point and even gone on to win it.What we do about a basic lack of skill I don’t know, but tactics and style we can.Hoofball, is not the way forward.Anyway travel to Walsall very slightly happier than if we had lost to Burton who would have struggled against the Leather Bottle Belvedere.0
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I don't see how the players can deliver when they are instructed to hoof the ball up the pitch and immediately lose possession.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
Let's hope we convert these wins. 5 wins out of next 6 league games and a draw with Lincoln will have us right back up there.Callumcafc said:Five points off top six with a game in hand.And four of our next six games are at home where we’ve lost once in the last 14.
Down to Jones and the players to deliver.0 -
Sorry, it comes up in paragraphs on my laptop!Covered End said:
Paragraphs.Garrymanilow said:Burton are so so so so shit. The worst I've seen in the longest time. We were our usual selves, uncreative, unaggressive, mostly uninterested but we still got 3 points. We haven't stolen the win because it would have been a travesty if a team as bad as Burton didn't lose but equally we didn't do much to win it and needed a red card and for Conor Coventry to be awake while everyone else was in slow motion to score.Doesn't feel particularly like a win because Burton really were terrible. We still don't have the aggression to offset the lack of creativity. It's just Coventry pressing everything on everyone else's behalf. Berry hid, Anderson didn't hide but I sort of wish he had after a point. REG isn't a right back or anything really so all wide play has to go through Edwards. I would kill for a RB who just ran up and down the width of the pitch. It can't be that much to ask. Further forward Godden looked like he was trying to speak English to people who only know sign language. Just couldn't get on anyone else's wavelength because there wasn't another wavelength to get on, just dead air. Ahadme did some good stuff and some not good stuff. For every decent flick there was a bad touch, for the good header he forced the keeper to save there was the one where he just needed to put it either side of the keeper and nodded it straight at him. Cancelled himself out. Leaburn was bloody awful. Doesn't want to pass anymore, wants to shoot. If there's no space to shoot he'll do a stepover until he can shoot or he loses the ball. I would really like him to start playing with the team instead of actively against it but it feels a bit like he's got a Miles Leaburn wallchart he's trying to fill out ahead of a transfer. His call. TC fell over almost every time he got the ball despite this being a match where he should have tied them in knots.Once we scored Burton had to wake up and I'll wake up in the night thinking about how we suddenly made a team that bad with 10 men look dangerous purely by not being able to get hold of the ball. It was only when Danny Hylton came on that anyone seemed to have the common sense to get hold of it, slow it down, draw a foul, take forever to get up off the ground and then slow it down again. Fair play to him because he gets players to follow on from him. He got TC, Taylor and Small getting close to him and copying what he was doing and injury time became a calm period of throw ins and referee intervention. I can actually see how he'd make a decent coach.Special thanks to Charlie Webster for being Burton's only good player and an idiot. Let Terry Taylor completely rile him up and cost his team the game. I think we'll do incredibly well to see a team as rancid as Burton again but 3 points is 3 points. Hopefully we can build something from that and it's an away win on the board. We're 5 points off the play-offs going into December and on balance I'll take it, we just need to go on a run and hopefully get something good from football Santa in the transfer window
Where are the paragraphs?
You get a migraine trying to read this without them.
Apart from that it's spot on.
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Their service was shit, best centre forwards in the world need the ball put in areas they can get to and attackeaststandmike said:
Not forgetting we had three of our first choice strikers on from the start last night and none of them scored against a very poor bottom of the table teamnorthstandsteve said:It is so frustrating we have no creativity , as I really do like Godden his is a very intelligent player and love his work ethic, with quality service he could score shit loads.0 -
We have to hoof the ball up field because are midfield incapable , after receiving the ball from the backs of making forward progress themselves.
They 90% of the time pass straight back to the defense who them selves are poor inflating with the ball at feet. So they pass back to the keeper who hoofs the ball long.1 -
having seen the youtube video TC times his run perfectly and when the pass was made he was just inside his own half , well done the lino for thatoohaahmortimer said:How far offside was TC when put through , did he run from his own half he looked 5 yards off
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Just to say I agree with Braz (and others?) that Taylor should be starting in place of Karoy, and TC should be starting as well. He's one of our few players who unsettles the opposition, and possibly our only player with real pace.
Coventry and Taylor are actually both reasonably high energy (will track back), so Karoy's enthusiasm isn't really much of a deal breaker. Like other I feel pretty sad when I see a performance like his yesterday. We all desperately want him to do well, but we want to see the team improve even more, right now.1 -
I can't believe there aren't a group of players within the squad really unhappy with the style of play and/or tactics. I think Jones has cushioned himself from the effects of this by positioning his ex Luton chums in their respective roles (i.e. Hylton as a player coach and Docherty as captain).Covered End said:
I don't see how the players can deliver when they are instructed to hoof the ball up the pitch and immediately lose possession.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
Let's hope we convert these wins. 5 wins out of next 6 league games and a draw with Lincoln will have us right back up there.Callumcafc said:Five points off top six with a game in hand.And four of our next six games are at home where we’ve lost once in the last 14.
Down to Jones and the players to deliver.
The quality is so poor it is ruining careers and the club. We easily see better football elsewhere including the local non league!1 -
I honestly don't think it would be the worst thing try, if Dixon isn't ready yet, by putting Small wide left and TC wide right either side of Leaburn in a front 3 or maybe in some kind of 442. We've seen it work with people like Ian Maatsen.bolloxbolder said:We need pace. Other than TC the only options appear to be Small and Dixon.
I'll say it again, we look and play better with Small in the side, certainly attacking wise.
We have to find a place for Small in the side. Maybe swap Gillesphy for Edwards with 3 at the back.
Dixon on the bench is surely only a matter of time given our injuries?2 -
I've been pretty unpleasantly surprised by some of the comments about Miles Leaburn on this thread. To suggest he wasn't trying last night, or just trying to impress scouts, is beneath contempt, IMO. Just to remind people of a few things:
- Last night he hit the post with an excellent header while being close marked
- he was asked to play in yet another new front formation, which even Brownie was struggling to interpret at KO time
- On Saturday he was most people's MOM, but he had to go off. There were doubts he would start last night, in the end he played the whole game
- He's basically still returning from a very serious injury
- He is 20, and lost a full season of development. He is still learning the game. You could criticise his judgement a couple of times last night, but do it in context, please.
However if you want to see him sold in the Jan window then sure, slag him off like he's a seasoned pro on a top wage. There will be people in the SMT who will seize on those comments as a sign they can cash in without too much pushback. And if that happens we will be completely fucked.
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I wish that the floodlights went out last night during the match so we didn’t have to watch the game.Power failure Pompey v Millwall2
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I don't think I've seen anyone say anything too over the line though ? I like him, we all do but he isn't exempt from criticism we have all noticed that whilst he has shown some nice footwork at times he tries it far too often at times when he would be better passing. Of course he was trying, I did notice yesterday our long balls were going beyond our strikers giving them little chance to even contest.PragueAddick said:I've been pretty unpleasantly surprised by some of the comments about Miles Leaburn on this thread. To suggest he wasn't trying last night, or just trying to impress scouts, is beneath contempt, IMO. Just to remind people of a few things:
- Last night he hit the post with an excellent header while being close marked
- he was asked to play in yet another new front formation, which even Brownie was struggling to interpret at KO time
- On Saturday he was most people's MOM, but he had to go off. There were doubts he would start last night, in the end he played the whole game
- He's basically still returning from a very serious injury
- He is 20, and lost a full season of development. He is still learning the game. You could criticise his judgement a couple of times last night, but do it in context, please.
However if you want to see him sold in the Jan window then sure, slag him off like he's a seasoned pro on a top wage. There will be people in the SMT who will seize on those comments as a sign they can cash in without too much pushback. And if that happens we will be completely fucked.
Also (not to your point Prauge but I cant be assed to post twice) we do also have pace and energy up top with Kanu who we are sorely missing right now and for me should be starting when back fit.3 -
PragueAddick said:I've been pretty unpleasantly surprised by some of the comments about Miles Leaburn on this thread. To suggest he wasn't trying last night, or just trying to impress scouts, is beneath contempt, IMO. Just to remind people of a few things:
- Last night he hit the post with an excellent header while being close marked
- he was asked to play in yet another new front formation, which even Brownie was struggling to interpret at KO time
- On Saturday he was most people's MOM, but he had to go off. There were doubts he would start last night, in the end he played the whole game
- He's basically still returning from a very serious injury
- He is 20, and lost a full season of development. He is still learning the game. You could criticise his judgement a couple of times last night, but do it in context, please.
However if you want to see him sold in the Jan window then sure, slag him off like he's a seasoned pro on a top wage. There will be people in the SMT who will seize on those comments as a sign they can cash in without too much pushback. And if that happens we will be completely fucked.As with Alfie May our consortium billionaire’s didn’t provide a transfer war chest so Alfie was sold to raise the money
If the SMT continues with form Leaburn being sold will fund our next big push in the transfer market be it January or the summer.0
