Watching his interview afterwards with El Tel NJ looks that he was under pressure to get a win…we can see that with the style of hoof ball and lack of control. I really think that if we had lost the match it would have been his last match. I still think he is on the ledge because of the dire football being served up each week and of course the poor results. NJ has been back by the owners but he is not delivering. To me it’s count down time and I don’t think there is too long left on the clock.
My understanding is that NJ has had a conversation with the owners and although I have no clue to what that was about, I doubt it was to give him a pat on the back. Under pressure ? I have no idea but there will be pressure from himself because as stubborn and crackers as he is, he’s not stupid enough to think he’s doing ok. There is a realisation from the fans that sacking managers twice a season is madness but there is also a growing realisation that Jones is not looking like the answer. Last night was dire and although we collected three very welcome points, nobody can think that was acceptable. I don’t believe there is money to spend in January and I really can’t see a couple of loans turning the tide. I’d say that the football Jones is delivering is pretty close to the worst I’ve seen in supporting for 63 years. Is NJ capable of a massive change in tactics ? I don’t think he is.
Karoy Anderson was twenty years old eight weeks ago. Not finished, just started. He is a battler at the moment, gaining experience in a poor domestic team, but also gaining experience as an international player. Eight weeks after turning twenty. I would pick him over Docherty, Alan Campbell, and Luke Berry, of the midfielders listed on the official site, only Coventry and Taylor would be my pick ahead of him, and even then it would be marginal, Tayo Edun would come next, but that is because we haven’t seen much of him amongst the dross and there is little to criticise about him this season. Go on, who would pick, for example, Alan Campbell ahead of Anderson?
Its a fair point but frankly "being better than Alan Campbell" is not really a very high bar to clear. It's not exactly a resounding commendation.
Karoy Anderson was twenty years old eight weeks ago. Not finished, just started. He is a battler at the moment, gaining experience in a poor domestic team, but also gaining experience as an international player. Eight weeks after turning twenty. I would pick him over Docherty, Alan Campbell, and Luke Berry, of the midfielders listed on the official site, only Coventry and Taylor would be my pick ahead of him, and even then it would be marginal, Tayo Edun would come next, but that is because we haven’t seen much of him amongst the dross and there is little to criticise about him this season. Go on, who would pick, for example, Alan Campbell ahead of Anderson?
Was going to like this until you mentioned Edun. A complete dud and I have definitely seen enough of him.
Think in terms of link up and winning headers, I think it was Gas's best game for us and if he had that booking, might have seen out the 90 and maybe ended up with a goal.
Do need to see more of that of course but it was a good platform to build on.
We deserved the win though we weren't great but we needed the win, one way or another.
"If God had wanted us to play football in the clouds, he'd of put grass up there"
Gas is a lump it forward target man that doesn't win half his headers. Atrocious player that I'm sure when he leaves us (probably in the summer) he will drop down to League Two or maybe even National League.
Fairly sure he won more than half last night?
Certainly not saying he is world beater but he played well last night.
There's winning a 50/50 header and then there's winning a 50/50 header and putting it into a position that will benefit the team. He doesn’t do it nearly enough for a man who's USP is a target man in my opinion when you look at someone like Stockley who was in the same mold.
What Anderson offers in energy (and i cant fault his effort or his off the ball running) doesnt make up for his lack of quality in relation to his first touch and ability to spot a pass. We win our game in hand and we could be only 2 points off playoffs but that doesnt tell the full story of our performances.
Honestly mental. Whilst I wouldn't expect us to win any game at the moment, it shows how poor the league is. We've been rotten pretty much all season and still aren't that far out of it.
Think in terms of link up and winning headers, I think it was Gas's best game for us and if he had that booking, might have seen out the 90 and maybe ended up with a goal.
Do need to see more of that of course but it was a good platform to build on.
We deserved the win though we weren't great but we needed the win, one way or another.
"If God had wanted us to play football in the clouds, he'd of put grass up there"
Gas is a lump it forward target man that doesn't win half his headers. Atrocious player that I'm sure when he leaves us (probably in the summer) he will drop down to League Two or maybe even National League.
Fairly sure he won more than half last night?
Certainly not saying he is world beater but he played well last night.
There's winning a 50/50 header and then there's winning a 50/50 header and putting it into a position that will benefit the team. He doesn’t do it nearly enough for a man who's USP is a target man in my opinion when you look at someone like Stockley who was in the same mold.
Ahadme shows some nice touches BUT he doesn't look like someone who will score many goals, as he's not sharp enough in the box, and his heading isn't that great either.
I was almost euphoric about his Southend winner. It was a complete flash in the pan.
If Alfie May had started for us tonight, he’d have had two goals probably by half-time, even with this shit around him. That is a criticism not just of Ahadme but Godden too. Although i like Godden, he’s not a patch on May, that much is now evident. And in turn it is evident that Jones treatment of May backe end of last season was indeed the strong warning sign that I feared at the time.
Should it be a criticism of them, or Jones and Scott?
They didn't agree their transfer fees, they didn't pretend to be players they are not, they aren't deciding the set up or system.
This sits with recruitment and tactics, not the individual players.
Unless a player is evidently not trying, and I don't see that with either of them, it sits with leadership.
I put on my rose-tinted specs and crossed all my fingers and toes to watch last nights game and it paid off! 3 points..... phew..... quite liked the front 3 of Miles, Gass with Matty playing a little deeper....... thought we played through with the ball a bit more than I've seen recently....... not so many passes across the back and midfield and Gillesphey got to rest his diagonal left leg a bit....... Hylton looks much trimmer than when he first came, he did alright too including a nice ball through to TC (didn't he do one of those in some cup game too?)........ Gass seems sharper than earlier in the season and over the last couple of games I think he's shown better pace than in his early days....... Miles was there or thereabouts and is getting sharper too...... Taylor looks comfortable and able on the ball, I wonder if he can have a go at the more forward midfield role instead of Anderson or Doc....... Coventry is a goodun'........ clean sheet so hats off to the guys at the back especially Mitchell and Edwards....... and NJ didn't get booked or sent off!
How far offside was TC when put through , did he run from his own half he looked 5 yards off and right at the end when TT was being booted on the floor how did they get a free kick for That ffs
It was a dire game, one we would have only taken a point from had they not gone down to 10 men.
We could hardly string 3 passes together and so many players genuinely look uncomfortable with a football at their feet and I include Leaburn in that.
Adhame has got to be one of worst players ever to have worn the shirt. He has the pace of someone who’s just taken a hit of spice and the strength of a match stick. Yet another atrocious imitation of a footballer we’ve been exposed to in recent years.
Anderson, although young, shows very little technical ability and despite being ‘one of our own’ needs a loan to league 2 or below. League one looks above his level.
The Godden, Leaburn, Adhame front three was horrible to watch and those three mix like oil and water
I truly believe that if we front up like that again on Sat, Walsall will get a win. Burton’s lack of quality was a huge factor in us not getting shown up for the ramshackle pathetic excuse we are
He has the pace of someone who’s just taken a hit of spice and the strength of a match stick.
Ouch, that's harsh criticism... not that I would disagree with you. One wonders what made the club think he was worthy of a four year contract?
I really want to know what they're saying about him inside the club now. Players can be the harshest critics, and surely the management team are watching him with an element of disbelief.
Watching his interview afterwards with El Tel NJ looks that he was under pressure to get a win…we can see that with the style of hoof ball and lack of control. I really think that if we had lost the match it would have been his last match. I still think he is on the ledge because of the dire football being served up each week and of course the poor results. NJ has been back by the owners but he is not delivering. To me it’s count down time and I don’t think there is too long left on the clock.
My understanding is that NJ has had a conversation with the owners and although I have no clue to what that was about, I doubt it was to give him a pat on the back. Under pressure ? I have no idea but there will be pressure from himself because as stubborn and crackers as he is, he’s not stupid enough to think he’s doing ok. There is a realisation from the fans that sacking managers twice a season is madness but there is also a growing realisation that Jones is not looking like the answer. Last night was dire and although we collected three very welcome points, nobody can think that was acceptable. I don’t believe there is money to spend in January and I really can’t see a couple of loans turning the tide. I’d say that the football Jones is delivering is pretty close to the worst I’ve seen in supporting for 63 years. Is NJ capable of a massive change in tactics ? I don’t think he is.
Interesting - thanks for sharing. Assuming you mean the actual owners as opposed to the SMT?
He has the pace of someone who’s just taken a hit of spice and the strength of a match stick.
Ouch, that's harsh criticism... not that I would disagree with you. One wonders what made the club think he was worthy of a four year contract?
I really want to know what they're saying about him inside the club now. Players can be the harshest critics, and surely the management team are watching him with an element of disbelief.
The management team are being watched by us in disbelief.
One thing I will say about Ahadme is he is a trier. Another thing is he seems like a good bloke. Does nothing for the team and results though, kind of a combination of Bakinson Ladapo and Camara rolled into one.
Nathan Jones has to own the decision for the Luton players who came to CAFC. Just like Ben Garner had to with the Exeter players or trying to turn Jayden Stockley into a different player. Not sure the budget Ben had was comparable.
A couple of good judges has said that's the poorest performance when we have won. The stats may say one thing but I don't believe our eyes deceived us against 8 points Burton from a possible 48. Definitely a 1st for me as I normally go with its 3 points and don't criticise but I suddenly feel like Billy mix or Nicholas and that is a place I don't want to be !
The worst draw was possible the home game against Cray Valley paper mills.
Well, it wasn't pretty, but at least we got the win and it made the drive home more positive than my last long drive home from an away day (Barnsleys late equaliser).
It was definitely more of a 'paper over the cracks' result over a 'build on this' result. We looked very ordinary and were quite fortunate Burton are just a bad side. They are without a shadow of doubt going down. Their fans also seem to be in a state of acceptance.
I don't want to be too harsh on Karoy, as he's a good lad, and an academy boy, but he's not at this level. I'm not sure if he would even stand out in league 2 tbh. Coventry and Taylor are by far and away our best midfield options, and should be starting every single minute unless they physically can't. I can't even begin to understand why Terry Taylor was dropped last game. He completely changed this game.
TC also needs a lot more game time. One of the only positive players and defenders actually look concerned against him. I'd honestly back myself against Gas.
Final note, I thought their number 8 was quality until the head loss, his sending off in particular changed the game as he was their best player by a mile.
Still expecting a loss to Walsall, but hey ho, 3 points and a glimmer of hope.
How far offside was TC when put through , did he run from his own half he looked 5 yards off and right at the end when TT was being booted on the floor how did they get a free kick for That ffs
Definitely offside imo. He was at least 10 yards inside their half when the ball was played.......if not he's the next Usan Bolt as when he received the ball he was half way into their half.
Watching his interview afterwards with El Tel NJ looks that he was under pressure to get a win…we can see that with the style of hoof ball and lack of control. I really think that if we had lost the match it would have been his last match. I still think he is on the ledge because of the dire football being served up each week and of course the poor results. NJ has been back by the owners but he is not delivering. To me it’s count down time and I don’t think there is too long left on the clock.
My understanding is that NJ has had a conversation with the owners and although I have no clue to what that was about, I doubt it was to give him a pat on the back. Under pressure ? I have no idea but there will be pressure from himself because as stubborn and crackers as he is, he’s not stupid enough to think he’s doing ok. There is a realisation from the fans that sacking managers twice a season is madness but there is also a growing realisation that Jones is not looking like the answer. Last night was dire and although we collected three very welcome points, nobody can think that was acceptable. I don’t believe there is money to spend in January and I really can’t see a couple of loans turning the tide. I’d say that the football Jones is delivering is pretty close to the worst I’ve seen in supporting for 63 years. Is NJ capable of a massive change in tactics ? I don’t think he is.
Interesting - thanks for sharing. Assuming you mean the actual owners as opposed to the SMT?
Karoy Anderson was twenty years old eight weeks ago. Not finished, just started. He is a battler at the moment, gaining experience in a poor domestic team, but also gaining experience as an international player. Eight weeks after turning twenty. I would pick him over Docherty, Alan Campbell, and Luke Berry, of the midfielders listed on the official site, only Coventry and Taylor would be my pick ahead of him, and even then it would be marginal, Tayo Edun would come next, but that is because we haven’t seen much of him amongst the dross and there is little to criticise about him this season. Go on, who would pick, for example, Alan Campbell ahead of Anderson?
Its a fair point but frankly "being better than Alan Campbell" is not really a very high bar to clear. It's not exactly a resounding commendation.
That's probably a reflection on the midfield that has been brought in to improve that area. I also think, as much as I'm not a fan of Campbell, Berry or Docherty, it's no coincidence that they are not the only ones to fail to shine in this squad. It's easy to see where our most successful players have been this season, Jones, Ramsay, Edwards and possibly Alex Mitchell, all defenders, so what does that tell you about the way this side is told to approach games ? Nearly everyone of our midfielders have been rotated, if that's the word, with only Coventry being a constant, Godden and a returning Leaburn have held down places in the last few weeks but we have had Kanu, Ahadme, Tyreece Campbell also rotated, with Hylton appearing from the bench. Simply put, with all our best defenders available we are consistent at the back, everywhere else, we are not.
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They didn't agree their transfer fees, they didn't pretend to be players they are not, they aren't deciding the set up or system.
This sits with recruitment and tactics, not the individual players.
Unless a player is evidently not trying, and I don't see that with either of them, it sits with leadership.
3 points..... phew..... quite liked the front 3 of Miles, Gass with Matty playing a little deeper....... thought we played through with the ball a bit more than I've seen recently....... not so many passes across the back and midfield and Gillesphey got to rest his diagonal left leg a bit....... Hylton looks much trimmer than when he first came, he did alright too including a nice ball through to TC (didn't he do one of those in some cup game too?)........ Gass seems sharper than earlier in the season and over the last couple of games I think he's shown better pace than in his early days....... Miles was there or thereabouts and is getting sharper too...... Taylor looks comfortable and able on the ball, I wonder if he can have a go at the more forward midfield role instead of Anderson or Doc....... Coventry is a goodun'........ clean sheet so hats off to the guys at the back especially Mitchell and Edwards....... and NJ didn't get booked or sent off!
and right at the end when TT was being booted on the floor how did they get a free kick for That ffs
I truly believe that if we front up like that again on Sat, Walsall will get a win. Burton’s lack of quality was a huge factor in us not getting shown up for the ramshackle pathetic excuse we are
Another thing is he seems like a good bloke.
Does nothing for the team and results though, kind of a combination of Bakinson Ladapo and Camara rolled into one.
A couple of good judges has said that's the poorest performance when we have won. The stats may say one thing but I don't believe our eyes deceived us against 8 points Burton from a possible 48. Definitely a 1st for me as I normally go with its 3 points and don't criticise but I suddenly feel like Billy mix or Nicholas and that is a place I don't want to be !
The worst draw was possible the home game against Cray Valley paper mills.
It was definitely more of a 'paper over the cracks' result over a 'build on this' result. We looked very ordinary and were quite fortunate Burton are just a bad side. They are without a shadow of doubt going down. Their fans also seem to be in a state of acceptance.
I don't want to be too harsh on Karoy, as he's a good lad, and an academy boy, but he's not at this level. I'm not sure if he would even stand out in league 2 tbh. Coventry and Taylor are by far and away our best midfield options, and should be starting every single minute unless they physically can't. I can't even begin to understand why Terry Taylor was dropped last game. He completely changed this game.
TC also needs a lot more game time. One of the only positive players and defenders actually look concerned against him. I'd honestly back myself against Gas.
Final note, I thought their number 8 was quality until the head loss, his sending off in particular changed the game as he was their best player by a mile.
Still expecting a loss to Walsall, but hey ho, 3 points and a glimmer of hope.
Can't even go to an away game and be toxic to a manager anymore, games gone
I'll say it again, we look and play better with Small in the side, certainly attacking wise.
We have to find a place for Small in the side. Maybe swap Gillesphy for Edwards with 3 at the back.
Dixon on the bench is surely only a matter of time given our injuries?