Charlton join foreign legion as Belgian millionaire agrees takeover deal (maybe?)
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Out of interest AB, does RDC still have any financial involvement in CAFC?0
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Richard Collins? No. His shareholding was always one of the smallest on the board (no jokes please!).Addickted said:Out of interest AB, does RDC still have any financial involvement in CAFC?
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So they have to wait for a working day I guess.Airman Brown said:
Worth remembering that any takeover has to be signed off by the bank funding the remaining north stand mortgage, unless it is repaid. That is Lombard, which is part of RBS.MuttleyCAFC said:It feels like the bulk of the deal must have been done for the OS to report it -maybe a case of getting all the signatures, waiting for the best time to announce it. It feels very unlikely to fall through - I'm sure the Belgian will know all he needs to know so doubtful something will come along to scupper things.
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But would his agreement be one of those required for any potential takeover?0
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Isn't RBS trying to hive off Lombard at the moment?Airman Brown said:
Worth remembering that any takeover has to be signed off by the bank funding the remaining north stand mortgage, unless it is repaid. That is Lombard, which is part of RBS.MuttleyCAFC said:It feels like the bulk of the deal must have been done for the OS to report it -maybe a case of getting all the signatures, waiting for the best time to announce it. It feels very unlikely to fall through - I'm sure the Belgian will know all he needs to know so doubtful something will come along to scupper things.
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Well it still looks suspicious to me why it was leaked to Charlie Sale and why a couple of lines went on the OS.1
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Give him a kiss from us on both cheeks please Len. And then move up to his face.... ;-)BlackfenLen said:Im in the Directors box with my Dad for todays game. What are the chances of us rubbing shoulders with our (potential) new Flemish/Walloon owner?
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Very many of us would love to understand this better, not (just) out of curiosity but to be able to consider all the debits and credits of their leadership in full. I guess very few people might be able to tell us that story, but PV and you are perhaps best placed to do so. What are the chances of that being told, maybe when their reign is over?Airman Brown said:TelMc32 said:Rick...my comment was purely about the standard of person brought in and their reputation in the industry. You possibly know Mal (he's worked at Everton, Hull & Coventry as well) and I have the utmost respect for him as a friend & a seasoned football man.
The "in credit" comment stems from where we are & where we were when they came in. I know how desperate we were for a deal at that time and they were needed. That's it, nothing more.
I've stated previously that I'm not a fan of the management methods that have seen you, Peter & many others leave the club. Let's leave it there & hope this takeover goes through for us all to celebrate a happy New Year.
Further PV's treatment by Slater and Jimenez over the ensuing months was disgraceful and I hope one day people will come to understand just what has gone on, because they might then think twice about lauding the people responsible.1 -
No - the former directors with loans that are repayable on takeover (or would need to be rolled over by agreement or otherwise renegotiated) are Derek Chappell, Bob Whitehand, Sir Maurice Hatter, David Hughes, David Sumners and David White. These amount to £4.4m and are interest free loans pending promotion to the Premier League, at which point they start to attract interest. In addition there is approx £3.5m outstanding to Richard Murray on a similar basis, although £1m part of his attracts modest interest now.Addickted said:But would his agreement be one of those required for any potential takeover?
I don't think Sir Maurice was ever a director himself, but that's not material.
In addition, there is - as far as we know - an overdraft facility of about £800k with HSBC which is underwritten by RM and they would also be entitled to sign off, as well as RBS/Lombard.
I'm not saying that any of these are an obstacle to a deal, as long as the counterparty is robust, simply that any takeover has to jump all these hurdles before it can be completed. They can be cleared in advance, but it's not just a question of two parties shaking hands.
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OK - thanks AB.
RMs loan attracts 'modest' interest? How modest compared with the BoEBR only being 0.5%?0 - Sponsored links:
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Yes, the food is edible and the beer is great! Compare that to what is currently served....AddickUpNorth said:
Is that a good thing?!?MyLeftFoot said:Can we get Bartrams turned into a Belgo's? Bottles of slag all round
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RM has £1m accruing interest at 3%, and a further £2.4m which is on 0%, (like the other director loans, the loans that total to £4.5million).Addickted said:OK - thanks AB.
RMs loan attracts 'modest' interest? How modest compared with the BoEBR only being 0.5%?0 -
Oops, I think the expression is "Whoosh". Sorry WMT... (Small blushing smiley thing).Wheresmeticket? said:Henry Irving said:
I think WMT may have been indulging in some of that lowest form of wit, sarcasm.Algarveaddick said:
I think you mean interfering in the running of the team WMT, rather than the club? I too would be happy to see that, but realistically that has never happened at a club of our size. I think the word disaster is a bit strong, given our current position - it suggests that without the billionaire we dream of, we would be better off with the current, skint, regime holding onto the club forever rather than anyone else taking the helm?Wheresmeticket? said:I will only be happy when a billionaire who is prepared to put loads of money into our club for no return and who is prepared not to interfere in the running of the club in any way comes along. Until that day I am afraid I can only see potential takeovers as a disaster for Charlton.
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Honestly think that it's more important that the club moves on, but there is a risk that certain people will be provoked into telling their story if history gets rewritten.Davo55 said:
Very many of us would love to understand this better, not (just) out of curiosity but to be able to consider all the debits and credits of their leadership in full. I guess very few people might be able to tell us that story, but PV and you are perhaps best placed to do so. What are the chances of that being told, maybe when their reign is over?Airman Brown said:TelMc32 said:Rick...my comment was purely about the standard of person brought in and their reputation in the industry. You possibly know Mal (he's worked at Everton, Hull & Coventry as well) and I have the utmost respect for him as a friend & a seasoned football man.
The "in credit" comment stems from where we are & where we were when they came in. I know how desperate we were for a deal at that time and they were needed. That's it, nothing more.
I've stated previously that I'm not a fan of the management methods that have seen you, Peter & many others leave the club. Let's leave it there & hope this takeover goes through for us all to celebrate a happy New Year.
Further PV's treatment by Slater and Jimenez over the ensuing months was disgraceful and I hope one day people will come to understand just what has gone on, because they might then think twice about lauding the people responsible.0 -
Ex-directors' loans: Chappell £1.2m, Whitehand £1.2m, Hatter £1m, Hughes £500k, Sumners £250k, White £250k.
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Whilst we know from the Club itself that there is negotiatins with a prospective purchaser we do not know who is handlingthe negotiations and whether the negotiator is representing a controlling interest in the Club. My understanding is that Jiminez has the largest holding but not more than 50%. Slater repreents the next largest holding but can only command a majority with the support of the other shareholders. If they have have differing views (or support competing offers,) and neither can command a majority, we have impasse. This, rather than D D, may explain why previous negotiations have failed and why this particular Belgian courtship may still be in the balance.0
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Battle for The Valley II: Captain Scarlet & The Mysterons ?Airman Brown said:
Honestly think that it's more important that the club moves on, but there is a risk that certain people will be provoked into telling their story if history gets rewritten.Davo55 said:
Very many of us would love to understand this better, not (just) out of curiosity but to be able to consider all the debits and credits of their leadership in full. I guess very few people might be able to tell us that story, but PV and you are perhaps best placed to do so. What are the chances of that being told, maybe when their reign is over?Airman Brown said:TelMc32 said:Rick...my comment was purely about the standard of person brought in and their reputation in the industry. You possibly know Mal (he's worked at Everton, Hull & Coventry as well) and I have the utmost respect for him as a friend & a seasoned football man.
The "in credit" comment stems from where we are & where we were when they came in. I know how desperate we were for a deal at that time and they were needed. That's it, nothing more.
I've stated previously that I'm not a fan of the management methods that have seen you, Peter & many others leave the club. Let's leave it there & hope this takeover goes through for us all to celebrate a happy New Year.
Further PV's treatment by Slater and Jimenez over the ensuing months was disgraceful and I hope one day people will come to understand just what has gone on, because they might then think twice about lauding the people responsible.1 -
bloody typical - I've been faithfully following all the takeover threads and then when I have no phone or broadband this happens, so now I'm going to have to pop out to the M6 services again to see what's happening, another full english while I wait!1
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My only question, should any takeover go through, is who will actually be in day to day control. I can't see it being the Belgium bloke himself.1
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I'm sure there will be a transitional period but eventually I would see most very senior staff being Duchatelet people.PL54 said:My only question, should any takeover go through, is who will actually be in day to day control. I can't see it being the Belgium bloke himself.
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Whitehand's loan is closer to £850k.Airman Brown said:Ex-directors' loans: Chappell £1.2m, Whitehand £1.2m, Hatter £1m, Hughes £500k, Sumners £250k, White £250k.
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Another Liege fan told me today
Quelle triste fin d'année pour les gens de Iena et de Charlton !!! '' I feel really sorry for the Charlton fans ''
I replied and asked Why, and the response i got was
'' Car Roland Duchatelet est une personne qui ne connait rien au football '' '' Roland Duchatelet knows nothing about football ''0 -
If you're going into Motorway services for a full english you'd better ask our potential new owner for a loan!lancashire lad said:bloody typical - I've been faithfully following all the takeover threads and then when I have no phone or broadband this happens, so now I'm going to have to pop out to the M6 services again to see what's happening, another full english while I wait!
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To be fair not many owners do now. I don't think Randy Lerner knew much about football but he's been good for Aston Villa. As long as he's not an interfering nutter then it's not a problem.charltonaddickedmatt said:Another Liege fan told me today
Quelle triste fin d'année pour les gens de Iena et de Charlton !!! '' I feel really sorry for the Charlton fans ''
I replied and asked Why, and the response i got was
'' Car Roland Duchatelet est une personne qui ne connait rien au football '' '' Roland Duchatelet knows nothing about football ''2 -
Agreed, Just mix feelings about him clearly from the Standard supporters.ValleyGary said:
To be fair not many owners do now. I don't think Randy Lerner knew much about football but he's been good for Aston Villa. As long as he's not an interfering nutter then it's not a problem.charltonaddickedmatt said:Another Liege fan told me today
Quelle triste fin d'année pour les gens de Iena et de Charlton !!! '' I feel really sorry for the Charlton fans ''
I replied and asked Why, and the response i got was
'' Car Roland Duchatelet est une personne qui ne connait rien au football '' '' Roland Duchatelet knows nothing about football ''
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so that this thread does not die a death full of bollocks, boredom and rubbish about other stuff, i propose before anyone posts a thread they must actually either have a question, an opinion or information on the takeover. look at the other takeover thread.0
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His record with Managers reads...
July 2011 - May 2012 / May 2012 - Oct 2012 / Oct 2012 - May 2013 / May 2013 - Current.
The Powell Out brigade will be pleased...0 -
Haven't you just broken your own rule?jackmasterflash said:so that this thread does not die a death full of bollocks, boredom and rubbish about other stuff, i propose before anyone posts a thread they must actually either have a question, an opinion or information on the takeover. look at the other takeover thread.
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