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Carson Incident

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  • Plaaayer
    Plaaayer Posts: 8,997
    Occassionally?
  • Granpa
    Granpa Posts: 2,995
    Every Club has got yobs like this one, who we can do without. I am very disappointed that there was no intervention from the Stewards,the whole thing was very obvious from the North Upper. What are we paying these Stewards for ?
  • MrLargo
    MrLargo Posts: 7,989
    Granpa said:

    Every Club has got yobs like this one, who we can do without. I am very disappointed that there was no intervention from the Stewards,the whole thing was very obvious from the North Upper. What are we paying these Stewards for ?

    I think most of the stewards are on minimum wage and are primarily there to direct people to their seats, be on hand if someone gets taken ill, etc. I don't think they're paid enough (or trained) to get involved in potential confrontations, although they should certainly be reporting incidents like this to someone more senior so that appropriate action can be taken, either at the time or retrospectively. Will be interesting to see whether the spitter is there tonight - one would hope that he's had his season ticket confiscated at some point between Saturday evening and tonight.
  • masicat
    masicat Posts: 5,008
    From people in the vicinity would be great to get some pics tonight. I suspect you will be looking for someone in a long orange wig or similar.
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    masicat said:

    From people in the vicinity would be great to get some pics tonight. I suspect you will be looking for someone in a long orange wig or similar.

    Nah @tangoflash is in the East stand 'A' Block :-0
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,331
    Curb_It said:

    Dear me... who gets offended by the word pikey? My favourite word... flag me Chizz!!

    It's a pejorative ethnic slur. And, like other ethnic slurs (which I won't put here), it's unnecessary and unpleasant. I think it's a bit odd that anyone would have, as a "favourite" word, one that offends. But, each to their own, I guess.

  • Clem_Snide
    Clem_Snide Posts: 11,737
    Chizz said:

    Curb_It said:

    Dear me... who gets offended by the word pikey? My favourite word... flag me Chizz!!

    It's a pejorative ethnic slur. And, like other ethnic slurs (which I won't put here), it's unnecessary and unpleasant. I think it's a bit odd that anyone would have, as a "favourite" word, one that offends. But, each to their own, I guess.

    D'yah like daags?

  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    Chizz said:

    Curb_It said:

    Dear me... who gets offended by the word pikey? My favourite word... flag me Chizz!!

    It's a pejorative ethnic slur. And, like other ethnic slurs (which I won't put here), it's unnecessary and unpleasant. I think it's a bit odd that anyone would have, as a "favourite" word, one that offends. But, each to their own, I guess.

    It's reserved for the scummier side of the gypsy population.
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,331
    Dazzler21 said:

    Chizz said:

    Curb_It said:

    Dear me... who gets offended by the word pikey? My favourite word... flag me Chizz!!

    It's a pejorative ethnic slur. And, like other ethnic slurs (which I won't put here), it's unnecessary and unpleasant. I think it's a bit odd that anyone would have, as a "favourite" word, one that offends. But, each to their own, I guess.

    It's reserved for the scummier side of the gypsy population.
    That makes it even worse.
  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,596
    Dazzler21 said:

    Chizz said:

    Curb_It said:

    Dear me... who gets offended by the word pikey? My favourite word... flag me Chizz!!

    It's a pejorative ethnic slur. And, like other ethnic slurs (which I won't put here), it's unnecessary and unpleasant. I think it's a bit odd that anyone would have, as a "favourite" word, one that offends. But, each to their own, I guess.

    It's reserved for the scummier side of the gypsy population.
    Is there another side?
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  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,975
    Where were the tough guys from security or do they only appear in numbers when 14 year old away fans celebrate a goal???
  • Goonerhater
    Goonerhater Posts: 12,677
    Having gone to school with 3 different Pikey families ---Pikey is a very polite word for what they could have been called. They also have words for them selves especially the Irish Gypsyes who called others "knackers" ,the worst insult being "bog trotting knacker".

    Keep watching my big far load of bollox gypsy wedding while in the real world they leave hundreds of tons of shit all over a green field site --rip off any non pikey they can or mug+rob non gypsy kids at school-- while the school are only be interested in what these poor travellers are being called i mean its their culture after all --- feckingTWAT
  • Chizz said:

    Curb_It said:

    Dear me... who gets offended by the word pikey? My favourite word... flag me Chizz!!

    It's a pejorative ethnic slur. And, like other ethnic slurs (which I won't put here), it's unnecessary and unpleasant. I think it's a bit odd that anyone would have, as a "favourite" word, one that offends. But, each to their own, I guess.

    Take oaf
  • It has never been satisfactorily explained to me what is gained from using knowingly offensive words and behaviour, particularly on those occasions when it is specifically directed at an individual or a group with the intention to cause some level of distress. It takes a certain amount of skill and knowledge to be able to challenge a behaviour that you perceive to be offensive in a way that demands of the perpetrator to consider an alternative way of speaking and behaving.
  • Greenie
    Greenie Posts: 9,172
    edited August 2014
    Chizz said:

    Dazzler21 said:

    Chizz said:

    Curb_It said:

    Dear me... who gets offended by the word pikey? My favourite word... flag me Chizz!!

    It's a pejorative ethnic slur. And, like other ethnic slurs (which I won't put here), it's unnecessary and unpleasant. I think it's a bit odd that anyone would have, as a "favourite" word, one that offends. But, each to their own, I guess.

    It's reserved for the scummier side of the gypsy population.
    That makes it even worse.
    Are you the Pope? ;o)

    We used to have a saying 'sticks and stones etc' - remember that?
  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,596

    Dazzler21 said:

    Chizz said:

    Curb_It said:

    Dear me... who gets offended by the word pikey? My favourite word... flag me Chizz!!

    It's a pejorative ethnic slur. And, like other ethnic slurs (which I won't put here), it's unnecessary and unpleasant. I think it's a bit odd that anyone would have, as a "favourite" word, one that offends. But, each to their own, I guess.

    It's reserved for the scummier side of the gypsy population.
    Is there another side?
    Perhaps whoever's flagged me for this would like these, peaceful, nature loving, pillars of our society to rock up in a field near his/her house and make camp.
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,331
    Greenie said:

    Chizz said:

    Dazzler21 said:

    Chizz said:

    Curb_It said:

    Dear me... who gets offended by the word pikey? My favourite word... flag me Chizz!!

    It's a pejorative ethnic slur. And, like other ethnic slurs (which I won't put here), it's unnecessary and unpleasant. I think it's a bit odd that anyone would have, as a "favourite" word, one that offends. But, each to their own, I guess.

    It's reserved for the scummier side of the gypsy population.
    That makes it even worse.
    Are you the Pope? ;o)

    We used to have a saying 'sticks and stones etc' - remember that?
    Are you saying that the use of racial slurs is ok? Perhaps because "it's only words"?
  • Chizz said:

    Greenie said:

    Chizz said:

    Dazzler21 said:

    Chizz said:

    Curb_It said:

    Dear me... who gets offended by the word pikey? My favourite word... flag me Chizz!!

    It's a pejorative ethnic slur. And, like other ethnic slurs (which I won't put here), it's unnecessary and unpleasant. I think it's a bit odd that anyone would have, as a "favourite" word, one that offends. But, each to their own, I guess.

    It's reserved for the scummier side of the gypsy population.
    That makes it even worse.
    Are you the Pope? ;o)

    We used to have a saying 'sticks and stones etc' - remember that?
    Are you saying that the use of racial slurs is ok? Perhaps because "it's only words"?
    Good grief man, are you suggesting we revert to sticks and stones?
    Hmm, might stop them nasty fans spitting at that nice Mr. Carson ;-)
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,331

    Chizz said:

    Greenie said:

    Chizz said:

    Dazzler21 said:

    Chizz said:

    Curb_It said:

    Dear me... who gets offended by the word pikey? My favourite word... flag me Chizz!!

    It's a pejorative ethnic slur. And, like other ethnic slurs (which I won't put here), it's unnecessary and unpleasant. I think it's a bit odd that anyone would have, as a "favourite" word, one that offends. But, each to their own, I guess.

    It's reserved for the scummier side of the gypsy population.
    That makes it even worse.
    Are you the Pope? ;o)

    We used to have a saying 'sticks and stones etc' - remember that?
    Are you saying that the use of racial slurs is ok? Perhaps because "it's only words"?
    Good grief man, are you suggesting we revert to sticks and stones?
    Hmm, might stop them nasty fans spitting at that nice Mr. Carson ;-)
    No. I am saying that using racial slurs and epithets is unnecessary, unpleasant and offensive. I have taken fans to task when they have hurled racial abuse at players; I don't see why we should have to put up with it on here.

  • Curb_It
    Curb_It Posts: 21,220
    edited August 2014
    Imagine shouting out at the Valley - "Jackson you pikey"... You're a hero Chizz... handing out flags willy nilly fighting the good fight against evil.





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  • Curb_It said:

    Imagine shouting out at the Valley - "Jackson you pikey"... You're a hero Chizz... handing out flags willy nilly fighting the good fight against evil.





    Find this bizarre considering a comment on another thread that got your 'blood boiling'. What is it that angered you over the lower class comment, but not the Pikey comment
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,975
    edited August 2014
    I'd never use the 'pikey' word as i know too many travellers who wouldn't think twice about giving you a slap if they heard it.
  • Curb_It
    Curb_It Posts: 21,220
    edited August 2014
    I do not know why but i have always found the word pikey a bit of non offensive term (in my circles anyway) when one of my pals has been up to no good (not illegal activity before someone else starts)... Ive never used it as a racial slur. I actually had to look up where the word came from today.

    I have now got the memo from Lord Chizz... but will probably still use it, when hiding in a corner, when no one is listening.
  • Curb_It
    Curb_It Posts: 21,220
    edited August 2014
    What is the difference between pikey, trailer trash and chav ?
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,734
    Scott Carson, who was understandably very upset, nevertheless asked for the culprit NOT to be banned. Generous gesture and respect to him for that.
  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,596
    Curb_It said:

    What is the difference between pikey, trailer trash and chav ?

    You only get flagged for the first one.
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,331
    Curb_It said:

    What is the difference between pikey, trailer trash and chav ?

    "Pikey" is racial epithet. "Trailer trash" and "chav" are merely pejorative descriptions. Very, very big difference.
  • MrLargo
    MrLargo Posts: 7,989
    Curb_It said:

    What is the difference between pikey, trailer trash and chav ?

    Bermondsey, Liverpool, Croydon.
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,331
    Crikey, DaveMehmet's trigger happy today!
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,331
    The point is this, some words are rude, some offensive and some are racial slurs. Rude words are ok (in fact, at football grounds I think there should be plenty of ruse words!); offensive words are ok (what's wrong with being merely offended?); but racial slurs are far from ok.