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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,219
    edited June 2015

    se9addick said:

    Does it really matte how much we get for Gomez ? I would imagine there's transfer budget already assigned to Charlton, as there will be for all clubs in the network and whether we get £1m or £10m I can't see that changing too much.

    But KM said herself that she has a target for player sales.

    She said that they weren't planning to sell any of the first team as well though.
    She also said she interviewed 20 managers.
    Actually she said she had 20 applications
    And I'm sure she carefully considered each one.
    I doubt she had time before Roland told her Luzon was on his way.

    Ain't it a bastard when your boss drops you in it like that but that's management for you.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,034

    se9addick said:

    Does it really matte how much we get for Gomez ? I would imagine there's transfer budget already assigned to Charlton, as there will be for all clubs in the network and whether we get £1m or £10m I can't see that changing too much.

    But KM said herself that she has a target for player sales.

    She said that they weren't planning to sell any of the first team as well though.
    I wouldn't assume that KM and RD have the same targets.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,559
    By Richard ' Creepy' Cawley

    CHARLTON defender Joe Gomez looks set to complete a transfer to Liverpool this week.

    The 18-year-old defender is expected to have a medical soon with the Merseyside giants.

    No fee has been officially disclosed but Liverpool are believed to have paid an initial £3.5 million for Gomez.

    And any talk of an instant loan back to the Addicks is likely to involve a waiting game. The Reds usually like new signings to spend pre-season in their programme - meaning that it would be well into August before they made a decision on a temporary exit.

    Gomez is one of English football's outstanding talents and initially opted to snub the country's top clubs because he wanted first-team football sooner - making his debut for Charlton are just 17.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619

    I love all the games we get out of these youngsters we spend years developing. Fingers crossed one day one of them will get to play 40 games for us!

    It's sadly a product of the state of English football where the Premier League suck every penny out of the game and force the rest of the clubs in England to cash in when they can.

    The sooner football implodes in this country the better imho. Perhaps then we can get back to the beautiful game and not the ugly greed fest it has become.

  • andynelson
    andynelson Posts: 1,951
    £3.5m? Is this serious?
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619

    £3.5m? Is this serious?

    Even if true it's says initial.

  • Addicted
    Addicted Posts: 2,804
    Not sure about JBG reading too much into it. He must have known we'll probably need to sell to bring in talent. I dont think anyone was under the impression that we were flush
  • CharltonByBlood
    CharltonByBlood Posts: 1,900
    Gutted he's going but would help if it was a decent dee and could finace a summer spending spree and improve the team but 3.5m isnt enough to do that.
  • We haven't accepted anything yet, have we? The club won't see all these £8m figures being talked about in the national papers then accept less than half? People cried a river when Diego left but they came in with 6 months left on his contract and as part of the deal we've acquired arguably one of the best keepers in the league in Henderson, Katrien was a lawyer therefore I trust her to get the best deal possible for both Joe and the club
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126

    se9addick said:

    Does it really matte how much we get for Gomez ? I would imagine there's transfer budget already assigned to Charlton, as there will be for all clubs in the network and whether we get £1m or £10m I can't see that changing too much.

    But KM said herself that she has a target for player sales.

    She said that they weren't planning to sell any of the first team as well though.
    She also said she interviewed 20 managers.
    Actually she said she had 20 applications
    And I'm sure she carefully considered each one.
    I doubt she had time before Roland told her Luzon was on his way.

    Ain't it a bastard when your boss drops you in it like that but that's management for you.
    Even worse when you then lie in public afterwards.
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  • Nadou
    Nadou Posts: 1,725

    Katrien was a lawyer therefore I trust her to get the best deal possible for both Joe and the club

    Trust a lawyer???????

  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126

    We haven't accepted anything yet, have we? The club won't see all these £8m figures being talked about in the national papers then accept less than half? People cried a river when Diego left but they came in with 6 months left on his contract and as part of the deal we've acquired arguably one of the best keepers in the league in Henderson, Katrien was a lawyer therefore I trust her to get the best deal possible for both Joe and the club

    How was that part of the deal?
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,219

    se9addick said:

    Does it really matte how much we get for Gomez ? I would imagine there's transfer budget already assigned to Charlton, as there will be for all clubs in the network and whether we get £1m or £10m I can't see that changing too much.

    But KM said herself that she has a target for player sales.

    She said that they weren't planning to sell any of the first team as well though.
    She also said she interviewed 20 managers.
    Actually she said she had 20 applications
    And I'm sure she carefully considered each one.
    I doubt she had time before Roland told her Luzon was on his way.

    Ain't it a bastard when your boss drops you in it like that but that's management for you.
    Even worse when you then lie in public afterwards.
    Did she?

    She could hardy say "we started the recruitment process then Roland rang and said its gonna be Luzon"

    As I said she got dropped in it by her boss. Been there, done that not nice but that's what you get the money for.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126

    se9addick said:

    Does it really matte how much we get for Gomez ? I would imagine there's transfer budget already assigned to Charlton, as there will be for all clubs in the network and whether we get £1m or £10m I can't see that changing too much.

    But KM said herself that she has a target for player sales.

    She said that they weren't planning to sell any of the first team as well though.
    She also said she interviewed 20 managers.
    Actually she said she had 20 applications
    And I'm sure she carefully considered each one.
    I doubt she had time before Roland told her Luzon was on his way.

    Ain't it a bastard when your boss drops you in it like that but that's management for you.
    Even worse when you then lie in public afterwards.
    Did she?

    She could hardy say "we started the recruitment process then Roland rang and said its gonna be Luzon"

    As I said she got dropped in it by her boss. Been there, done that not nice but that's what you get the money for.
    No, she obviously couldn't say that. Equally, she didn't have to pretend she'd even considered other candidates.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,219

    se9addick said:

    Does it really matte how much we get for Gomez ? I would imagine there's transfer budget already assigned to Charlton, as there will be for all clubs in the network and whether we get £1m or £10m I can't see that changing too much.

    But KM said herself that she has a target for player sales.

    She said that they weren't planning to sell any of the first team as well though.
    She also said she interviewed 20 managers.
    Actually she said she had 20 applications
    And I'm sure she carefully considered each one.
    I doubt she had time before Roland told her Luzon was on his way.

    Ain't it a bastard when your boss drops you in it like that but that's management for you.
    Even worse when you then lie in public afterwards.
    Did she?

    She could hardy say "we started the recruitment process then Roland rang and said its gonna be Luzon"

    As I said she got dropped in it by her boss. Been there, done that not nice but that's what you get the money for.
    No, she obviously couldn't say that. Equally, she didn't have to pretend she'd even considered other candidates.
    But what if she HAD considered other candidates but was then told "it's Luzon"? So maybe she didn't lie, she just got dropped in it.
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,365

    Will be gutted if he moves on whatever the fee.

    My stance with all Charlton sales from now is that it doesn't really matter if he is sold for £10 or £10m, there is no evidence that it will all be invested back into Charlton. Liege have sold players for 64m EUR and have paid out for 24m EUR since Roland bought them. We will sometimes benefit from the group aspect, other times others may benefit.

    I just wanted to see him play for us and develop for another season, was one of the things I was looking forward to most.

    Spot on. I don't know why so many fans get caught up about the size of transfers these days - its not their own money and I can think of only very, very few examples where a club has sold one of its best players and been better off for it from a footballing perspective.

    I couldn't give a toss if Charlton become 3.5m richer or 7m richer. I'm a football fan, not a spreadsheet enthusiast.

  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    If only £3.5m I would be a bit peeved at our negotiators! I think as a Valley Gold member I may have, along with other Valley Gold members had more input in production of a player of Gomez’s quality than RD, so I would also be entitled to be peeved. However, if it is £3.5m I would expect to see nice extras…..very nice extras’ Look at Bournemouth benefitting from that recently!
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,624
    don't worry about the fee as we'll never get to know it as it will be "undisclosed"
  • HantsAddick
    HantsAddick Posts: 2,423
    Am considering giving my £120 to Cancer Research next month instead of Valley Gold.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Undisclosed. Hmmmn.
    If Liverpool (or whoever) paid £15 up front plus impending extras would it remain undisclosed?
    Or would it remain undisclosed because we don't want to let others know how rich we are?
    Or would it be undisclosed because it is a lousy amount?
    Disclosure of a large fee would strengthen Roland's credibility with the fans, and reassure us to an extent.
    Are these things eventually disclosed anyway to a half decent detective looking at the published accounts whenever they come out?
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  • Atletico Addick
    Atletico Addick Posts: 5,843
    The one minute you think Roland has an ounce of wit about him, he does something that shows you he does not and nor does those involved. I'll happily eat my own words if this transfer does not go through but from what I'm hearing it's a done deal in terms of the two clubs. Stupid stuff, financial backing should mean you hold on to your treasures to enhance their price and sell on, not sell at the first offer.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
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  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    seth plum said:

    Undisclosed. Hmmmn.
    If Liverpool (or whoever) paid £15 up front plus impending extras would it remain undisclosed?
    Or would it remain undisclosed because we don't want to let others know how rich we are?
    Or would it be undisclosed because it is a lousy amount?
    Disclosure of a large fee would strengthen Roland's credibility with the fans, and reassure us to an extent.
    Are these things eventually disclosed anyway to a half decent detective looking at the published accounts whenever they come out?

    If it's only £15 I'll buy him now and loan him back to Charlton.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    The season ticket stuff says 'building a better tomorrow together', not Valley Gold!
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    OOps
    15 mil
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,348

    Am considering giving my £120 to Cancer Research next month instead of Valley Gold.

    it would do far more good than being donated to a money making concern like a football club ..
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,983
    Personally I don't think Gomez is worth £8m now. He's only played a handful of games and while showing promise he's hardly the finished article. But £3.5m!! You could only afford Ross McCormack's armpit with that. Ross McCormack!
  • I. Am sure the owner will not leave anything on the table in negotiations when selling any players as it is his money he is looking after. We do not know all the facts but he willll. Also I will keep paying my one pint a month to valley gold as well let's be honest it helps to get tickets. Helps the club in a small way and why not. Keep the faith
    Sorry for spelling grammar etc but no glasses and three beers in.
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,348

    I. Am sure the owner will not leave anything on the table in negotiations when selling any players as it is his money he is looking after. We do not know all the facts but he willll. Also I will keep paying my one pint a month to valley gold as well let's be honest it helps to get tickets. Helps the club in a small way and why not. Keep the faith
    Sorry for spelling grammar etc but no glasses and three beers in.

    lol .. if you're out drinking beer in Stockholm AND sending dough to Valley Gold, you must be very well heeled indeed ((:>)
  • I wish. With exchange rate cheaper than london prices mate
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