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  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,129

    How would you put a release cause in a 17 year old's contract? Hard to believe.

    To get him to sign for us in the first place.
    exactly, why can't some people see this instead of using it as another stick to beat RD over the head with? The alternative would have been a Poyet situation and a fee decided by tribunal of two shirt buttons and a bag of Tesco pick n mix.

    No issues with a release clause - just the figure, it's far too low. If true.
    but there are two parties involved in agreeing a release clause. too low, we don't get a decent fee, too high and he doesn't sign a contract and we get next to no fee. what would you prefer?

    Completely understand that point as well.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,461

    If you remember last year Suarez had. 40m clause and arsenal bid 40.000.001. He didnt end up there he went to Barca for more money.

    Wasnt that simply a Gentlemans Agreement that Liverpool decided not to honour because Arsenal's bid was so cheeky
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,461
    Would love it if we signed Bulot... Could fast become one of my favourite players... i.e. his reaction when he sat on Watt after the latter had scored against either Brentford or Huddersfield spoke volumes about how much he seems to like it here
  • Ben18
    Ben18 Posts: 1,638

    Would love it if we signed Bulot... Could fast become one of my favourite players... i.e. his reaction when he sat on Watt after the latter had scored against either Brentford or Huddersfield spoke volumes about how much he seems to like it here

    or he just really likes Tony Watt!
  • If you remember last year Suarez had. 40m clause and arsenal bid 40.000.001. He didnt end up there he went to Barca for more money.

    This.

    Even if he had a release clause (which he hasnt according to Cawley) then it doesnt mean he goes for that price.

    Why's everyone getting their knickers in a twist???
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,461

    If you remember last year Suarez had. 40m clause and arsenal bid 40.000.001. He didnt end up there he went to Barca for more money.

    This.

    Even if he had a release clause (which he hasnt according to Cawley) then it doesnt mean he goes for that price.

    Why's everyone getting their knickers in a twist???
    Because if its like the release clause feature on Football Manager then when that is met, there is sod all you can do other than click the accept button (and its bloody annoying cos you can do nothing about it)
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,461
    edited June 2015
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  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,129
    Cawley reporting a guaranteed £5-6m with it going up to £10m with add-ons. If true, that's a good deal.
  • Greenie
    Greenie Posts: 9,172

    If you remember last year Suarez had. 40m clause and arsenal bid 40.000.001. He didnt end up there he went to Barca for more money.

    This.

    Even if he had a release clause (which he hasnt according to Cawley) then it doesnt mean he goes for that price.

    Why's everyone getting their knickers in a twist???
    Because if its like the release clause feature on Football Manager then when that is met, there is sod all you can do other than click the accept button (and its bloody annoying cos you can do nothing about it)
    Er...ones the real world, and the other isn't.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,461
    Greenie said:

    If you remember last year Suarez had. 40m clause and arsenal bid 40.000.001. He didnt end up there he went to Barca for more money.

    This.

    Even if he had a release clause (which he hasnt according to Cawley) then it doesnt mean he goes for that price.

    Why's everyone getting their knickers in a twist???
    Because if its like the release clause feature on Football Manager then when that is met, there is sod all you can do other than click the accept button (and its bloody annoying cos you can do nothing about it)
    Er...ones the real world, and the other isn't.
    Feck off... I've won countless Leagues and Trophies around the World I'll have you know... not the real world pfft!! ;)

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  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,738
    Gomez signed a contract as a young lad making his first steps into first team football, and in the knowledge that he was at a club who would sell him to a bigger club at the right time and price guaranteed. From what we know, both he and his parents have their heads screwed on and his initial position was a preference to stay rather than move and he had to be persuaded otherwise. I would be reasonably confident that if he is not playing in a Premiership first team, he would prefer to be playing in a Championship one. The last thing he would have thought about was a buy out clause.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,129

    Gomez signed a contract as a young lad making his first steps into first team football, and in the knowledge that he was at a club who would sell him to a bigger club at the right time and price guaranteed. From what we know, both he and his parents have their heads screwed on and his initial position was a preference to stay rather than move and he had to be persuaded otherwise. I would be reasonably confident that if he is not playing in a Premiership first team, he would prefer to be playing in a Championship one. The last thing he would have thought about was a buy out clause.

    His agent however...
  • flyingkiwiDK
    flyingkiwiDK Posts: 5,723
    It may well be that Gomez has a buy out clause. I'd be surprised if it was as low as 3.5 mill though. RD is too canny for that.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,738
    edited June 2015
    You would see a different pattern if it was a by out clause and we would have accepted the offer by now
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,129
    I wonder if Liverpool have told the press there's a release clause so it appears they're spending less.
  • Ben18
    Ben18 Posts: 1,638

    I wonder if Liverpool have told the press there's a release clause so it appears they're spending less.

    Aren't Liverpool a club where they have to declare transfer fees etc?
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,834

    Reports that Joe Gomez has £3.5m release clause are not right. If that was the price then deal would already be done and dusted.

    — Richard Cawley (@RichCawleySLP) June 18, 2015

    Release clause it is then !

    (only joking Richard)
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,738

    I wonder if Liverpool have told the press there's a release clause so it appears they're spending less.

    No, fans make things up and that is all it takes for a rumour to grow.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,461
    Interestingly have seen that Bournemouth have had a £4m bid for Max Gradel rejected... Wonder how much we bid for him the other year (Wasnt it around £1m?)
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,129

    I wonder if Liverpool have told the press there's a release clause so it appears they're spending less.

    No, fans make things up and that is all it takes for a rumour to grow.
    Except it was reported by the AP.

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  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,129
    Tottenham are interested in Swansea's Jonjo Shelvey, according to The Guardian.

    With Paulinho and Etienne Capoue likely to move on this summer, Tottenham boss Mauricio Pochettino would like to bolster his options in midfield and he feels Shelvey would fit perfectly into his system.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,129
    Guingamp have announced the signing of Belgian striker Nill De Pauw from Lokeren on a four-year contract.

    The 25-year-old scored 28 goals across his 173 appearances for the Pro League side before making the switch to French football.

    De Pauw will help bolster Guingamp's forward line given last season's top scorer Claudio Beauvue is expected to leave the Stade du Roudourou in the summer transfer window.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,738
    edited June 2015
    Shelvey would be a great signing for Spurs - He should be in the England squad -even as an option from the bench - it is strange Hodgson doesn't pick him. My sense is that the Gomez deal is going to be positive. Liverpool were trying to get it done on the cheap but if Southampton have come in with £6m then the bidding war we wanted has happened. I think it looks like we are in a strong position here for a change.
  • Starinnaddick
    Starinnaddick Posts: 4,345

    Shelvey would be a great signing for Spurs - He should be in the England squad -even as an option from the bench - it is strange Hodgson doesn't pick him. My sense is that the Gomez deal is going to be positive. Liverpool were trying to get it done on the cheap but if Southampton have come in with £6m then the bidding war we wanted has happened. I think it looks like we are in a strong position here for a change.

    I think Shelvey refused to play for the under 23 s and has not been considered since
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,761

    Shelvey would be a great signing for Spurs - He should be in the England squad -even as an option from the bench - it is strange Hodgson doesn't pick him. My sense is that the Gomez deal is going to be positive. Liverpool were trying to get it done on the cheap but if Southampton have come in with £6m then the bidding war we wanted has happened. I think it looks like we are in a strong position here for a change.

    I think Shelvey refused to play for the under 23 s and has not been considered since
    and so he shouldn't be.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,738
    Under 23s FFS!!!!! That says all that needs to be said! U21s ok - but U23s!!!!
  • PeterGage
    PeterGage Posts: 1,793
    Sky just reported that Liverpool has activated a 3.5m release clause for JG and that a medical is due tomorrow. Don't shoot the messenger boy (me) !!
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,794
    PeterGage said:

    Sky just reported that Liverpool has activated a 3.5m release clause for JG and that a medical is due tomorrow. Don't shoot the messenger boy (me) !!

    Thanks Colin. ;-)
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,823
    Skrtel just agreed a new contract as well
  • _nam11
    _nam11 Posts: 1,231

    Gomez signed a contract as a young lad making his first steps into first team football, and in the knowledge that he was at a club who would sell him to a bigger club at the right time and price guaranteed. From what we know, both he and his parents have their heads screwed on and his initial position was a preference to stay rather than move and he had to be persuaded otherwise. I would be reasonably confident that if he is not playing in a Premiership first team, he would prefer to be playing in a Championship one. The last thing he would have thought about was a buy out clause.

    His agent however...
    His dad however
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