Igor...to Bolton?!
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Why would a manager/head coach toss this into a press conference? I can tell you why previous managers would have done it and that is to provoke a reaction, internal or external, that prevents it happening. However, with the language issues and the unusual current set-up I don't know if that will be the case here.PragueAddick said:Imagine if Igor had gone to Bolton rather us from Copenhagen and his career had followed the same trajectory. The he arrived with us on loan next week in his current state. We'd quickly be trying to find ways of describing this as a worse signing than Lepointe.
It does seem that Bolton at least have some interest. In which case I am wrong. I really thought the modern English game was staffed and managed by proper professionals.3 -
If it frees up money for us to get a better quality loanee then it can only be a good thing.1
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Like who? It has to be from England and RD doesn't like paying the fees / wages of British-based players. Why ship out a young, promising player who we know can score goals in this division to bring in another short-term loanee?charente addick said:If it frees up money for us to get a better quality loanee then it can only be a good thing.
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''If it frees up money for us to get a better quality loanee then it can only be a good thing.''
Yes, like the unknown guy from Everton who is making Church look good!
Why didn't we get Pennant a proven premier player, we always seem
to cheapskate with this lot!!!!!4 -
Wolves in the running too according to twitter0
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Ah. Yes. Very good point.Airman Brown said:
Why would a manager/head coach toss this into a press conference? I can tell you why previous managers would have done it and that is to provoke a reaction, internal or external, that prevents it happening. However, with the language issues and the unusual current set-up I don't know if that will be the case here.PragueAddick said:Imagine if Igor had gone to Bolton rather us from Copenhagen and his career had followed the same trajectory. The he arrived with us on loan next week in his current state. We'd quickly be trying to find ways of describing this as a worse signing than Lepointe.
It does seem that Bolton at least have some interest. In which case I am wrong. I really thought the modern English game was staffed and managed by proper professionals.
But IF he goes on loan now, to another Championship club, what does it say about the professional due diligence at other clubs? I could understand it if it was a lower league club.
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Would be very odd to let Vetokele go, he's a very good player and I feel we'd do extremely well to get someone better in on loan. Also can't understand why we didn't keep Eagles and Johnson, thought we looked better with them in the squad, gave us a bit more Championship know how and experience. Still get the feeling our owners don't exactly know what they are doing.9
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Last time we shipped out a proven Championship goalscorer to a Championship rival we ended up with Polish Pete and a relegation battle. I'm not sure what gives anyone any confidence that Igor, who we paid £2m+ for, can be easily replaced by a short-term loanee.4
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Swap for James Henry?NomadicAddick said:Wolves in the running too according to twitter
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'Cause they're ten a penny!razil said:maybe to get another striker in who isn't crocked or off his game, its only gonna be a loan if its true
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I see Bolton as a relegation rival, so why would we want to assist them?3
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Would be ridiculous to let him go to a rival in our division.
We're short of strikers that we have to play two youngsters in a big cup-tie against one of our biggest rivals.
We need to get him fit and back into the starting line-up ASAP4 -
Igor to Bolton?
Well the pies are good up there... and the gravy, yum yum2 -
Perhaps Lewandowski is joining us.5
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Nonsense decision from the club. It sounds like we're actively pimping him out to rival clubs now.0
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Why we looking to free up money, be well over budget, yet were reportely making sizeable bids for players right up to the deadline?charente addick said:If it frees up money for us to get a better quality loanee then it can only be a good thing.
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I can think of other players I'd get rid of before Igor if we're over budget.2
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Maybe the problem is between Luzon and Igor and not really about injury any more. Igor was a Peeters buy remember.0
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Because the crystal clear strategic plan we were told was so brilliant has never actually been explained or spelt out.AFKABartram said:
Why we looking to free up money, be well over budget, yet were reportely making sizeable bids for players right up to the deadline?charente addick said:If it frees up money for us to get a better quality loanee then it can only be a good thing.
It doesn't make sense. That's not to say it can't make sense but neither KM or RD have tried very hard to explain it, let alone sell it to us.
CAFC plan to invest £10m+ at Sparrows Lane but allowed £ms of funding to go begging yet we are on a tight budget for players.
Personally I think Igor has had enough of Luzon and Luzon has had enough of Igor so they look to move on a relatively expensive player.
Bumpy ride continues.4 -
I meant better than the likes of the Everton guy and better than igor is at the moment. Certainly if igor was in the form of early last year then it would be a nonsense decision, but he really ain't in that form.Jensenwasclass said:''If it frees up money for us to get a better quality loanee then it can only be a good thing.''
Yes, like the unknown guy from Everton who is making Church look good!
Why didn't we get Pennant a proven premier player, we always seem
to cheapskate with this lot!!!!!
I did say 'if' as well.
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Grrrrr Luzon!! Vetokele needs confidence to start scoring again, and your not giving him any1
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Remember when we gave a centre back to a championship rival for nothing ?5
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And Kermorgant, and Stephens...se9addick said:Remember when we gave a centre back to a championship rival for nothing ?
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We're a charitable club aren't we. No wonder we had a bench with an average age of about 13 last night.The Red Robin said:
And Kermorgant, and Stephens...se9addick said:Remember when we gave a centre back to a championship rival for nothing ?
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Remember what we did with Kinsella to Villa?
Shhhhhhhhh
However - I'd be astonished if he went. Doubt he would pass a medical and if he went on loan and flopped they wouldn't sign him. If he smashed it we'd be helping an opponent. The only reason I can see would be because his wages would free up the signing of 2 or 3 other players (one of whom must be a striker).0 -
The only circumstances I can see him leaving is if we planned on bringing others in. Otherwise whats the point. yes it frees up wages, but wages we wouldn't spend. Luzon has already said our squad is thin already. Why would we make it thinner, especially in an area where we need to strengthen rather than weaken.
its not paper talk because Lennon has admitted he has enquired about him, but just because he has publicized his interest doesn't mean its going to happen.0 -
I am still trying to work out the roller coaster which is Duchatelet's ownership. At least with the previous owners I understood them. I couldn't honestly tell you what our plan is now, or has been since he bought the club. He clearly doesn't feel any need to share it either so doubt we will be any the wiser.2
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I wonder if the people slating the decision to loan Igor out are referrring to Igor as he is currently, or the Igor from a year ago?
Fact is that at present, we are getting nothing back for our outlay (ie wages) for whatever reason. IF someone else came in that would have to be looked at, as he can barely run let alone score at present (and hasnt been able to since the middle of last season).
Igor at his best was great, and if he got back to it, then I would like him back.
My concern would be if nobody else came in.0 -
FC Barcelona bought an injured Thomas Vermaelen from Arsenal. It took him a complete year to recover. Maybe they got a good deal ? Could also be the case for Igor ...Mendonca In Asdas said:I heard this rumour and laughed it off, Igors not fit at the moment, why would another team want him at the moment?
If he was loaned out I'd expect a decent loan move striker from the prem in his place, I'll be surprised if Igor does go to Bolton.0 -
so if he is injured why would Bolton want him ? if he aint injured then he clearly dosnt want to play for us. better to get rid0
