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  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    wmcf123 said:

    Dazzler21 said:

    Cousins is hugely overrated on here, he has passion and desire to win, but IMO and I'm happy for someone to pull me up on this in the future if I am wrong, he will never be any better than top half championship to yoyo prem/champ player as a CM.

    If he reverts to RB then I can see him getting in to the big game again as he's strong and battles hard and can cross well.

    Whenever I saw him play at right back in the youth teams, he was awful
    Worrying I saw him once in the youth and saw the Leeds game full footage and both times he was at RB he looked more natural than some have for us in recent years.
  • Dizzle
    Dizzle Posts: 5,190
    Everybody has forgotten about Johnnie Jackson when discussing our midfielders by the way
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,256
    Dizzle said:

    Everybody has forgotten about Johnnie Jackson when discussing our midfielders by the way

    legs have gone -Colin1961
  • moutuakilla
    moutuakilla Posts: 7,568
    sam3110 said:

    Dizzle said:

    Everybody has forgotten about Johnnie Jackson when discussing our midfielders by the way

    legs have gone -Colin1961
    If his legs had gone in '61...
  • Simonsen
    Simonsen Posts: 5,499

    Bergdich, the invisible/forgotten man .. whenever I have seen him he has done OK .. IF Fox goes, he is worth considering as an attacking full back, especially in this lower division

    Still prefer him as a Left-Midfielder, he scares me defensively
    Did Bergdich actually start a game at left back for us last season? I think he ended up there v Fulham but can't remember him starting there. On that basis, he might do ok at left back.

    Liked Kilgallon when he was at Sheff Utd (when they knocked us out of the FA Cup at Brammall Lane) but has suffered a lot of injuries and been out of starting XIs quite a lot.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    Dizzle said:

    Everybody has forgotten about Johnnie Jackson when discussing our midfielders by the way

    Assistant coach to the first team coach manager to the first team Manager.
  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,198
    Simonsen said:

    Bergdich, the invisible/forgotten man .. whenever I have seen him he has done OK .. IF Fox goes, he is worth considering as an attacking full back, especially in this lower division

    Still prefer him as a Left-Midfielder, he scares me defensively
    Did Bergdich actually start a game at left back for us last season? I think he ended up there v Fulham but can't remember him starting there. On that basis, he might do ok at left back.

    Liked Kilgallon when he was at Sheff Utd (when they knocked us out of the FA Cup at Brammall Lane) but has suffered a lot of injuries and been out of starting XIs quite a lot.
    Bergdich? If you want a full back who has no idea about defensive positioning, can't tackle, can't head the ball and can't pass he'd be ideal.
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,934
    Dizzle said:

    Everybody has forgotten about Johnnie Jackson when discussing our midfielders by the way

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  • flyingkiwiDK
    flyingkiwiDK Posts: 5,722

    Cousins is a decent player in midfield, but hardly irreplaceable, especially playing in L1. Danny Hollands and Darel Russell did much the same job as he did.

    He made lots of England youth appearances playing RB, but none since moving to midfield. Maybe RB is long term his better position, most full backs these days are expected to spend all their time running up and and down the flanks

    Whatever happened to Danny Hollands? I though he did a decent job throughout our Div 1 Championship season and wouldn't mind seeing him back.
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956

    Cousins is a decent player in midfield, but hardly irreplaceable, especially playing in L1. Danny Hollands and Darel Russell did much the same job as he did.

    He made lots of England youth appearances playing RB, but none since moving to midfield. Maybe RB is long term his better position, most full backs these days are expected to spend all their time running up and and down the flanks

    Whatever happened to Danny Hollands? I though he did a decent job throughout our Div 1 Championship season and wouldn't mind seeing him back.
    Portsmouth
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  • Simonsen
    Simonsen Posts: 5,499


    Bergdich? If you want a full back who has no idea about defensive positioning, can't tackle, can't head the ball and can't pass he'd be ideal.

    Fair enough. You've seen him play left-back. I haven't.
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,810
    edited June 2016
    would take any of the 3 CB's mentioned.

    I'd also take a 'fit' Kashi over Cousins every day based on what I saw of him at the start of last season.
  • ValleyMick
    ValleyMick Posts: 473
    cafcfan said:

    Simonsen said:

    Bergdich, the invisible/forgotten man .. whenever I have seen him he has done OK .. IF Fox goes, he is worth considering as an attacking full back, especially in this lower division

    Still prefer him as a Left-Midfielder, he scares me defensively
    Liked Kilgallon when he was at Sheff Utd (when they knocked us out of the FA Cup at Brammall Lane) but has suffered a lot of injuries and been out of starting XIs quite a lot.
    Bergdich? If you want a full back who has no idea about defensive positioning, can't tackle, can't head the ball and can't pass he'd be ideal.
    But what's wrong with him apart from that?
  • Covered_End_Lad
    Covered_End_Lad Posts: 5,725
    Turner over wheater and kilgallon for me, the latter two hve played very few full seasons due to injuries. Last thing we need is another crocked signing.
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,145
    Turner was /is on monster dough at Norwich so unless his contract is up or norwich pay up a large part of whatever is remaining can not see him realistically turning up to our circus
  • Starinnaddick
    Starinnaddick Posts: 4,342
    Didn't Michael Turner say last season that he had spoken to friends at the club and we were a basket case ?
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,000

    Didn't Michael Turner say last season that he had spoken to friends at the club and we were a basket case ?

    A basket case willing to pay wages to injury prone players past their prime (c.f. Johnson, Roger). For enough money he'd probably deal with the hassle.
  • cafc-4-life
    cafc-4-life Posts: 1,305
    Could Turner be the bargaining tool for any deal for JBG with Norwich? A loan deal for Turner with a high percentage of wages being paid and JBG for £5mill (we can hope).
  • SheedyCAFC
    SheedyCAFC Posts: 1,244
    cafcfan said:

    Simonsen said:

    Bergdich, the invisible/forgotten man .. whenever I have seen him he has done OK .. IF Fox goes, he is worth considering as an attacking full back, especially in this lower division

    Still prefer him as a Left-Midfielder, he scares me defensively
    Did Bergdich actually start a game at left back for us last season? I think he ended up there v Fulham but can't remember him starting there. On that basis, he might do ok at left back.

    Liked Kilgallon when he was at Sheff Utd (when they knocked us out of the FA Cup at Brammall Lane) but has suffered a lot of injuries and been out of starting XIs quite a lot.
    Bergdich? If you want a full back who has no idea about defensive positioning, can't tackle, can't head the ball and can't pass he'd be ideal.
    And a woman beater!
  • Starinnaddick
    Starinnaddick Posts: 4,342
    I heard we were interested in Scott Wootton but there is some sort of problem with his contract at Leeds.
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  • cafcfan said:

    Simonsen said:

    Bergdich, the invisible/forgotten man .. whenever I have seen him he has done OK .. IF Fox goes, he is worth considering as an attacking full back, especially in this lower division

    Still prefer him as a Left-Midfielder, he scares me defensively
    Did Bergdich actually start a game at left back for us last season? I think he ended up there v Fulham but can't remember him starting there. On that basis, he might do ok at left back.

    Liked Kilgallon when he was at Sheff Utd (when they knocked us out of the FA Cup at Brammall Lane) but has suffered a lot of injuries and been out of starting XIs quite a lot.
    Bergdich? If you want a full back who has no idea about defensive positioning, can't tackle, can't head the ball and can't pass he'd be ideal.
    Yeah, no need when we've already got Fox...
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,145

    Didn't Michael Turner say last season that he had spoken to friends at the club and we were a basket case ?

    he spoke with players when we played norwich season before and they said that
  • If we can build a squad of competent journeymen at this level who knit as a team then we'll be in with a shout. I wouldn't say any of our current players are outstanding - some are okay but none are irreplaceable.
    Have to see more of Kashi before I feel able to pass judgement. Regarding Cousins he's okay but hasn't kicked on as much as I'd expected.
    Still concerned about our centre backs for next season and whether we'll have any creativity in midfield.
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    Cousins was our POTY for the last two season for good reason. I would be gutted if he left.
  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 50,974
    edited June 2016
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  • Redrobo said:

    Cousins was our POTY for the last two season for good reason. I would be gutted if he left.

    I don't know if 'because everyone else was woeful' is a great reason
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    ross1 said:
    No contest if its between us and Sheff Utd
  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,358
    Sevenoaks fecking chronicle. Stop putting links on pls
  • moutuakilla
    moutuakilla Posts: 7,568
    Redhenry said:

    Sevenoaks fecking chronicle. Stop putting links on pls

    Is there something wrong with the site?
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,256
    Charlton Athletic are keen on released Blackburn Rovers defender Matthew Kilgallon.

    The 32-year-old, who came through the ranks with Leeds United in 2002, is a free agent after his one-year extension at Ewood Park ended.

    Kilgallon has a wealth of experience from the Premier League and the Championship, clocking up more than 175 appearances for several clubs.