Transfer rumours thread (DEADLINE DAY starts page 300)
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They get a lot of practice.ForeverAddickted said:I know we cant claim credit for them all but I'd love to know what it is about Charlton that creates such good Goalkeepers:
Bartram / Kiely / Carson / Anderson / Elliot / Randolph / Hamer / Button / Pope have all had really successful years after joining us and am sure I've missed a load of that list (Especially between Bartram / Kiely as my knowledge of Charlton in that era)
Then you've got Phillips / Mitov / Beeney who are all highly rated and could be our First-Team 'keeper3 -
Perhaps we are waiting to see if Henderson passes his medical and signs for Forest before we sign a goalkeeper3
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Was he the guy that supposedly took a bribe against Blackburn in the 50's?ecclesaddick said:willie duff
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Wasn't it the same with Pygott, we were told he was going to be brilliant and the coaching staff rated himbolloxbolder said:As a regular under 21 watcher, I put it out there to other such attendees that everyone I have spoken to reckons Phillips is better than Mitov. In fact people I speak to at the games don't rate Mitov at all, but for some reason the club rave about him.
Phillips is a real steady eddy, a good communicator to the back four and saves penalties. Mitov to me has mistakes in him and his kicking is very poor (his goal v Coventry being the obvious exception!).0 -
As usual good observations. Phillips is a good steady Eddie type of keeper who will get better with experience. However we need credible cover or better still a good properly signed goalkeeper so there is competition for the first team squad.bolloxbolder said:As a regular under 21 watcher, I put it out there to other such attendees that everyone I have spoken to reckons Phillips is better than Mitov. In fact people I speak to at the games don't rate Mitov at all, but for some reason the club rave about him.
Phillips is a real steady eddy, a good communicator to the back four and saves penalties. Mitov to me has mistakes in him and his kicking is very poor (his goal v Coventry being the obvious exception!).
We will be desperate if Phillips gets injured.0 -
Rob Elliot somewhat unlucky not to get the 2011 awardHenry Irving said:Player of the year winners since 1971 (when it started)
Goalkeepers in bold
Year Winner
1971 Paul Went
1972 Keith Peacock
1973 Arthur Horsfield
1974 John Dunn
1975 Richie Bowman
1976 Derek Hales
1977 Mike Flanagan
1978 Keith Peacock
1979 Keith Peacock
1980 Les Berry
Year Winner
1981 Nicky Johns
1982 Terry Naylor
1983 Nicky Johns
1984 Nicky Johns
1985 Mark Aizlewood
1986 Mark Aizlewood
1987 Bob Bolder
1988 John Humphrey
1989 John Humphrey
1990 John Humphrey
Year Winner
1991 Robert Lee
1992 Simon Webster
1993 Stuart Balmer
1994 Carl Leaburn
1995 Richard Rufus
1996 John Robinson
1997 Andy Petterson
1998 Mark Kinsella
1999 Mark Kinsella
2000 Richard Rufus
Year Winner
2001 Richard Rufus
2002 Dean Kiely
2003 Scott Parker
2004 Dean Kiely
2005 Luke Young
2006 Darren Bent
2007 Scott Carson
2008 Matt Holland
2009 Nicky Bailey
2010 Christian Dailly
Year Winner
2011 José Semedo
2012 Chris Solly
2013 Chris Solly
2014 Diego Poyet
2015 Jordan Cousins
2016 Jordan Cousins1 -
And where do you rate Beeney?bolloxbolder said:As a regular under 21 watcher, I put it out there to other such attendees that everyone I have spoken to reckons Phillips is better than Mitov. In fact people I speak to at the games don't rate Mitov at all, but for some reason the club rave about him.
Phillips is a real steady eddy, a good communicator to the back four and saves penalties. Mitov to me has mistakes in him and his kicking is very poor (his goal v Coventry being the obvious exception!).0 -
Nobody seems to have mentioned Graham Tutt, potentially our greatest ever keeper. Career cruelly cut short. Phillips seems a bit short at 6'1".2
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Shay Given is about the same height as Phillips and he had quite a good career.1
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Theirs a rumour ? I thought this was an interesting discussion on Charlton goal keepers past and present.ValleyGary said:Well these rumours are shit
Thread should be retitled transfers rumours and other topics (discussed whilst Charlton supporters pass the time, waiting for rumour / incoming transfer activity3 -
Casillas one of the best keepers in the world in recent years is 6ft 1harveys gardener said:Nobody seems to have mentioned Graham Tutt, potentially our greatest ever keeper. Career cruelly cut short. Phillips seems a bit short at 6'1".
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I was once told Fulham released an 11 year old goalkeeper because his bone analysis indicated he would only get to 6ft tall and that wasn't tall enough to play top level football.Covered_End_Lad said:
Casillas one of the best keepers in the world in recent years is 6ft 1harveys gardener said:Nobody seems to have mentioned Graham Tutt, potentially our greatest ever keeper. Career cruelly cut short. Phillips seems a bit short at 6'1".
Shay Given isn't big but was awesome.
Dillon is extremely well thought of but I don't get the impression he wants to stick around with us. I hope I'm wrong because he might just hit the ground running. Certainly didn't look out of place last season and was hugely admired.
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re goalkeepers - Liverpool sign a 39 year old one whilst Southampton want Randolph3
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Swisdom said:
I was once told Fulham released an 11 year old goalkeeper because his bone analysis indicated he would only get to 6ft tall and that wasn't tall enough to play top level football.Covered_End_Lad said:
Casillas one of the best keepers in the world in recent years is 6ft 1harveys gardener said:Nobody seems to have mentioned Graham Tutt, potentially our greatest ever keeper. Career cruelly cut short. Phillips seems a bit short at 6'1".
Shay Given isn't big but was awesome.
Dillon is extremely well thought of but I don't get the impression he wants to stick around with us. I hope I'm wrong because he might just hit the ground running. Certainly didn't look out of place last season and was hugely admired.
At the end of last season he was 4th or maybe 5th choice, now he's possibly 1st choice. Might change his thinking.0 -
Dillon is extremely well thought of but I don't get the impression he wants to stick around with us. I hope I'm wrong because he might just hit the ground running. Certainly didn't look out of place last season and was hugely admired.
He was happy to sign a new 2 year contract just a few weeks ago.1 -
Phillips is more than capable. Better than pope and mitov in my opinion. I've seen him play loads of times. Very vocal. Brave and a great shot stopper. Already been on bench season before last. He's very confident and I'd have no worries about putting him in. But then again it's not down to me.
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Good to hear but he's just coming back from injury and has never played a league game.markmc68 said:Phillips is more than capable. Better than pope and mitov in my opinion. I've seen him play loads of times. Very vocal. Brave and a great shot stopper. Already been on bench season before last. He's very confident and I'd have no worries about putting him in. But then again it's not down to me.
Having a good but inexperienced 21 year old as the first choice keeper is a big risk.4 -
Hopefully we've just had the issue of three Goalkeepers (Henderson / Pope / Phillips) who have all experienced First-Team Football and none of them want to run the risk of being the one stuck on the bench (Especially as the emergency loan market is not longer available)LordDofB said:Dillon is extremely well thought of but I don't get the impression he wants to stick around with us. I hope I'm wrong because he might just hit the ground running. Certainly didn't look out of place last season and was hugely admired.
He was happy to sign a new 2 year contract just a few weeks ago.0 - Sponsored links:
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makes you wonder why Burnley didn't sign Phillips thenmarkmc68 said:Phillips is more than capable. Better than pope and mitov in my opinion. I've seen him play loads of times. Very vocal. Brave and a great shot stopper. Already been on bench season before last. He's very confident and I'd have no worries about putting him in. But then again it's not down to me.
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more that Hendo pissed off the establishment so was moved on, Pope offered a PL opportunity and took it so we are stuck with Phillips who has never played in the Football League and would see sitting on the bench in League One as a natural progression although he's likely to be sold anyway to Cheltenahm once we have signed two replacements.ForeverAddickted said:
Hopefully we've just had the issue of three Goalkeepers (Henderson / Pope / Phillips) who have all experienced First-Team Football and none of them want to run the risk of being the one stuck on the bench (Especially as the emergency loan market is not longer available)LordDofB said:Dillon is extremely well thought of but I don't get the impression he wants to stick around with us. I hope I'm wrong because he might just hit the ground running. Certainly didn't look out of place last season and was hugely admired.
He was happy to sign a new 2 year contract just a few weeks ago.
PS - the emergency loan market is still available for keepers1 -
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£2m for an English defender who won player of the year for a club relegated to league 11 -
Actually relegated from the Championship, but I get your point.Henry Irving said:http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36833562?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
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I don't think that is particularly risky. What is risky is having an even younger and less experienced no. 2. If we signed an older player as competition with Phillips then I don't have a problem with him starting as number 1.Henry Irving said:
Good to hear but he's just coming back from injury and has never played a league game.markmc68 said:Phillips is more than capable. Better than pope and mitov in my opinion. I've seen him play loads of times. Very vocal. Brave and a great shot stopper. Already been on bench season before last. He's very confident and I'd have no worries about putting him in. But then again it's not down to me.
Having a good but inexperienced 21 year old as the first choice keeper is a big risk.1 -
Saw him a lot at the Toulon Tournament and was far from impressed. He looked so awkward on the ball I thought he was a left footer playing at right center back, but he's not.Henry Irving said:http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36833562?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
£2m for an English defender who won player of the year for a club relegated from league 1
I do think there's this weird thing where a promising player can play "too much" before a big move, allowing some of his weaknesses to be exposed. It seems that sometimes the transfer fee is the highest right after a player "bursts on to the scene." I cannot make any sense of it, but it felt like that was the case with the Ade rumors in January.1 -
Blimey. He must be almost as good as Gomez who only went for £500k more!Henry Irving said:http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36833562?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
£2m for an English defender who won player of the year for a club relegated to league 1
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The point may be that for a rich premiership club £2 million is an easily affordable punt.Henry Irving said:http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36833562?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
£2m for an English defender who won player of the year for a club relegated to league 1
Our friends at Burnley have a lot of money too, but after our dealings they feel even friendlier.0 -
Bad move for him though. Arsenal's track record on signing young English defenders and developing them is poor. Did Upson, Jenkinson or Chambers improve under Wenger? Has one of their own, Kieran Gibbs, developed to reach the potential he had?seth plum said:
The point may be that for a rich premiership club £2 million is an easily affordable punt.Henry Irving said:http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36833562?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
£2m for an English defender who won player of the year for a club relegated to league 1
Our friends at Burnley have a lot of money too, but after our dealings they feel even friendlier.1 -
Scoham said:
Henderson's move to Forest close to being finalised. Cardiff's Simon Moore is a possible replacement and is available for loan.
http://www.southlondonpress.co.uk/article.cfm?id=120190
He was never the same after getting knocked out at Chelsea (colliding with Richard Rufus's kneecap iirc)ForeverAddickted said:
People will lynch me for this but was also unsure about adding Sasa Ilic to the list.thai malaysia addick said:Bob Bolder, Sasa Ilic,
Yohann Thuram-Ulien
He kept a record number of Clean-Sheets joining us (Which should mean he's straight on there) but from the Sunderland performance (i.e. conceding four times) on wards he didnt reach the same heights again, although that might have just been on the basis he wasnt quite good enough for the Premier League
As most of my memories after Wembley are of him running out of his goal at an Everton (or Chelsea) player and doing a star jump to try and stop one of their goals0