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  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,940
    Just logged on to 121 new posts.

    My record for post numbers and no imminent signings
  • limeygent
    limeygent Posts: 3,217
    ForeverAddickted said:

    I know we cant claim credit for them all but I'd love to know what it is about Charlton that creates such good Goalkeepers:

    Bartram / Kiely / Carson / Anderson / Elliot / Randolph / Hamer / Button / Pope have all had really successful years after joining us and am sure I've missed a load of that list (Especially between Bartram / Kiely as my knowledge of Charlton in that era)

    Then you've got Phillips / Mitov / Beeney who are all highly rated and could be our First-Team 'keeper

    They get a lot of practice.
  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 51,003
    Perhaps we are waiting to see if Henderson passes his medical and signs for Forest before we sign a goalkeeper
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,885
    ecclesaddick said:

    willie duff

    Was he the guy that supposedly took a bribe against Blackburn in the 50's?
  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 51,003
    bolloxbolder said:

    As a regular under 21 watcher, I put it out there to other such attendees that everyone I have spoken to reckons Phillips is better than Mitov. In fact people I speak to at the games don't rate Mitov at all, but for some reason the club rave about him.

    Phillips is a real steady eddy, a good communicator to the back four and saves penalties. Mitov to me has mistakes in him and his kicking is very poor (his goal v Coventry being the obvious exception!).

    Wasn't it the same with Pygott, we were told he was going to be brilliant and the coaching staff rated him
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    bolloxbolder said:

    As a regular under 21 watcher, I put it out there to other such attendees that everyone I have spoken to reckons Phillips is better than Mitov. In fact people I speak to at the games don't rate Mitov at all, but for some reason the club rave about him.

    Phillips is a real steady eddy, a good communicator to the back four and saves penalties. Mitov to me has mistakes in him and his kicking is very poor (his goal v Coventry being the obvious exception!).

    As usual good observations. Phillips is a good steady Eddie type of keeper who will get better with experience. However we need credible cover or better still a good properly signed goalkeeper so there is competition for the first team squad.
    We will be desperate if Phillips gets injured.
  • Splodge
    Splodge Posts: 514
    Henry Irving said:

    Player of the year winners since 1971 (when it started)

    Goalkeepers in bold




    Year Winner
    1971 Paul Went
    1972 Keith Peacock
    1973 Arthur Horsfield
    1974 John Dunn
    1975 Richie Bowman
    1976 Derek Hales
    1977 Mike Flanagan
    1978 Keith Peacock
    1979 Keith Peacock
    1980 Les Berry

    Year Winner
    1981 Nicky Johns
    1982 Terry Naylor
    1983 Nicky Johns
    1984 Nicky Johns
    1985 Mark Aizlewood
    1986 Mark Aizlewood
    1987 Bob Bolder
    1988 John Humphrey
    1989 John Humphrey
    1990 John Humphrey

    Year Winner
    1991 Robert Lee
    1992 Simon Webster
    1993 Stuart Balmer
    1994 Carl Leaburn
    1995 Richard Rufus
    1996 John Robinson
    1997 Andy Petterson
    1998 Mark Kinsella
    1999 Mark Kinsella
    2000 Richard Rufus

    Year Winner
    2001 Richard Rufus
    2002 Dean Kiely
    2003 Scott Parker
    2004 Dean Kiely
    2005 Luke Young
    2006 Darren Bent
    2007 Scott Carson
    2008 Matt Holland
    2009 Nicky Bailey
    2010 Christian Dailly

    Year Winner
    2011 José Semedo
    2012 Chris Solly
    2013 Chris Solly
    2014 Diego Poyet
    2015 Jordan Cousins
    2016 Jordan Cousins

    Rob Elliot somewhat unlucky not to get the 2011 award
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,437
    bolloxbolder said:

    As a regular under 21 watcher, I put it out there to other such attendees that everyone I have spoken to reckons Phillips is better than Mitov. In fact people I speak to at the games don't rate Mitov at all, but for some reason the club rave about him.

    Phillips is a real steady eddy, a good communicator to the back four and saves penalties. Mitov to me has mistakes in him and his kicking is very poor (his goal v Coventry being the obvious exception!).

    And where do you rate Beeney?
  • harveys_gardener
    harveys_gardener Posts: 7,038
    Nobody seems to have mentioned Graham Tutt, potentially our greatest ever keeper. Career cruelly cut short. Phillips seems a bit short at 6'1".
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,231
    Shay Given is about the same height as Phillips and he had quite a good career.

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  • vff
    vff Posts: 6,882
    edited July 2016
    ValleyGary said:

    Well these rumours are shit

    Theirs a rumour ? I thought this was an interesting discussion on Charlton goal keepers past and present.

    Thread should be retitled transfers rumours and other topics (discussed whilst Charlton supporters pass the time, waiting for rumour / incoming transfer activity
  • Covered_End_Lad
    Covered_End_Lad Posts: 5,726
    harveys gardener said:

    Nobody seems to have mentioned Graham Tutt, potentially our greatest ever keeper. Career cruelly cut short. Phillips seems a bit short at 6'1".

    Casillas one of the best keepers in the world in recent years is 6ft 1
  • mrbligh
    mrbligh Posts: 3,056
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  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    Covered_End_Lad said:

    harveys gardener said:

    Nobody seems to have mentioned Graham Tutt, potentially our greatest ever keeper. Career cruelly cut short. Phillips seems a bit short at 6'1".

    Casillas one of the best keepers in the world in recent years is 6ft 1
    I was once told Fulham released an 11 year old goalkeeper because his bone analysis indicated he would only get to 6ft tall and that wasn't tall enough to play top level football.

    Shay Given isn't big but was awesome.

    Dillon is extremely well thought of but I don't get the impression he wants to stick around with us. I hope I'm wrong because he might just hit the ground running. Certainly didn't look out of place last season and was hugely admired.

  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,589
    re goalkeepers - Liverpool sign a 39 year old one whilst Southampton want Randolph
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,234
    Swisdom said:

    Covered_End_Lad said:

    harveys gardener said:

    Nobody seems to have mentioned Graham Tutt, potentially our greatest ever keeper. Career cruelly cut short. Phillips seems a bit short at 6'1".

    Casillas one of the best keepers in the world in recent years is 6ft 1
    I was once told Fulham released an 11 year old goalkeeper because his bone analysis indicated he would only get to 6ft tall and that wasn't tall enough to play top level football.

    Shay Given isn't big but was awesome.

    Dillon is extremely well thought of but I don't get the impression he wants to stick around with us. I hope I'm wrong because he might just hit the ground running. Certainly didn't look out of place last season and was hugely admired.


    At the end of last season he was 4th or maybe 5th choice, now he's possibly 1st choice. Might change his thinking.
  • LordDofB
    LordDofB Posts: 205
    Dillon is extremely well thought of but I don't get the impression he wants to stick around with us. I hope I'm wrong because he might just hit the ground running. Certainly didn't look out of place last season and was hugely admired.

    He was happy to sign a new 2 year contract just a few weeks ago.
  • markmc68
    markmc68 Posts: 1,593
    Phillips is more than capable. Better than pope and mitov in my opinion. I've seen him play loads of times. Very vocal. Brave and a great shot stopper. Already been on bench season before last. He's very confident and I'd have no worries about putting him in. But then again it's not down to me.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,234
    markmc68 said:

    Phillips is more than capable. Better than pope and mitov in my opinion. I've seen him play loads of times. Very vocal. Brave and a great shot stopper. Already been on bench season before last. He's very confident and I'd have no worries about putting him in. But then again it's not down to me.

    Good to hear but he's just coming back from injury and has never played a league game.

    Having a good but inexperienced 21 year old as the first choice keeper is a big risk.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,437
    LordDofB said:

    Dillon is extremely well thought of but I don't get the impression he wants to stick around with us. I hope I'm wrong because he might just hit the ground running. Certainly didn't look out of place last season and was hugely admired.

    He was happy to sign a new 2 year contract just a few weeks ago.

    Hopefully we've just had the issue of three Goalkeepers (Henderson / Pope / Phillips) who have all experienced First-Team Football and none of them want to run the risk of being the one stuck on the bench (Especially as the emergency loan market is not longer available)

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  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,589
    markmc68 said:

    Phillips is more than capable. Better than pope and mitov in my opinion. I've seen him play loads of times. Very vocal. Brave and a great shot stopper. Already been on bench season before last. He's very confident and I'd have no worries about putting him in. But then again it's not down to me.

    makes you wonder why Burnley didn't sign Phillips then
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,589
    edited July 2016
    ForeverAddickted said:

    LordDofB said:

    Dillon is extremely well thought of but I don't get the impression he wants to stick around with us. I hope I'm wrong because he might just hit the ground running. Certainly didn't look out of place last season and was hugely admired.

    He was happy to sign a new 2 year contract just a few weeks ago.

    Hopefully we've just had the issue of three Goalkeepers (Henderson / Pope / Phillips) who have all experienced First-Team Football and none of them want to run the risk of being the one stuck on the bench (Especially as the emergency loan market is not longer available)
    more that Hendo pissed off the establishment so was moved on, Pope offered a PL opportunity and took it so we are stuck with Phillips who has never played in the Football League and would see sitting on the bench in League One as a natural progression although he's likely to be sold anyway to Cheltenahm once we have signed two replacements.

    PS - the emergency loan market is still available for keepers
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,234
    edited July 2016
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36833562?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

    £2m for an English defender who won player of the year for a club relegated to league 1
  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,056
    Henry Irving said:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36833562?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

    £2m for an English defender who won player of the year for a club relegated from league 1

    Actually relegated from the Championship, but I get your point.
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,179
    Henry Irving said:

    markmc68 said:

    Phillips is more than capable. Better than pope and mitov in my opinion. I've seen him play loads of times. Very vocal. Brave and a great shot stopper. Already been on bench season before last. He's very confident and I'd have no worries about putting him in. But then again it's not down to me.

    Good to hear but he's just coming back from injury and has never played a league game.

    Having a good but inexperienced 21 year old as the first choice keeper is a big risk.
    I don't think that is particularly risky. What is risky is having an even younger and less experienced no. 2. If we signed an older player as competition with Phillips then I don't have a problem with him starting as number 1.
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,468
    edited July 2016
    Henry Irving said:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36833562?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

    £2m for an English defender who won player of the year for a club relegated from league 1

    Saw him a lot at the Toulon Tournament and was far from impressed. He looked so awkward on the ball I thought he was a left footer playing at right center back, but he's not.

    I do think there's this weird thing where a promising player can play "too much" before a big move, allowing some of his weaknesses to be exposed. It seems that sometimes the transfer fee is the highest right after a player "bursts on to the scene." I cannot make any sense of it, but it felt like that was the case with the Ade rumors in January.
  • harveys_gardener
    harveys_gardener Posts: 7,038
    Henry Irving said:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36833562?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

    £2m for an English defender who won player of the year for a club relegated to league 1

    Blimey. He must be almost as good as Gomez who only went for £500k more!

  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Henry Irving said:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36833562?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

    £2m for an English defender who won player of the year for a club relegated to league 1

    The point may be that for a rich premiership club £2 million is an easily affordable punt.
    Our friends at Burnley have a lot of money too, but after our dealings they feel even friendlier.
  • Splodge
    Splodge Posts: 514
    seth plum said:

    Henry Irving said:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36833562?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

    £2m for an English defender who won player of the year for a club relegated to league 1

    The point may be that for a rich premiership club £2 million is an easily affordable punt.
    Our friends at Burnley have a lot of money too, but after our dealings they feel even friendlier.
    Bad move for him though. Arsenal's track record on signing young English defenders and developing them is poor. Did Upson, Jenkinson or Chambers improve under Wenger? Has one of their own, Kieran Gibbs, developed to reach the potential he had?
  • Hovi's Biscuit
    Hovi's Biscuit Posts: 1,717
    Scoham said:

    Henderson's move to Forest close to being finalised. Cardiff's Simon Moore is a possible replacement and is available for loan.

    http://www.southlondonpress.co.uk/article.cfm?id=120190

    ForeverAddickted said:

    thai malaysia addick said:

    Bob Bolder, Sasa Ilic, Yohann Thuram-Ulien

    People will lynch me for this but was also unsure about adding Sasa Ilic to the list.

    He kept a record number of Clean-Sheets joining us (Which should mean he's straight on there) but from the Sunderland performance (i.e. conceding four times) on wards he didnt reach the same heights again, although that might have just been on the basis he wasnt quite good enough for the Premier League

    As most of my memories after Wembley are of him running out of his goal at an Everton (or Chelsea) player and doing a star jump to try and stop one of their goals
    He was never the same after getting knocked out at Chelsea (colliding with Richard Rufus's kneecap iirc)

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