The General Election - June 8th 2017

Rob7Lee said:

PragueAddick said:

Well, on the walk back to my Mum's from Eltham station. Counted 13 Efford posters in house windows. None for any other party. Talk about shy Tories

Then a gaggle of 4 young Tory canvassers pitched up so I took the opportunity to engage them:-) One claimed that as well as the social care floor of 100k, there will be a ceiling too ( i.e max anyone would pay). Thats news.

But apart from that slip they were intelligent and good humoured and a credit to our democratic process.

The ceiling was what they were going to bring in (about £80k?) but that was only the care element not the housing part. I'd assumed that had been scrapped in favour of the £100k floor.

I think he was speaking out of turn. The oldest one rowed back and talked about a consultation. I got the feeling I wasn't the first to have raised this.
I started by asking why we are having this election at all, and was treated to a personal rendition of strong and stable government. When he then referred to needing it for the Brexit negotiations I said the EU doesn't give a monkeys whether she has a majority of 9 or 90, it's still the sovereign government with a clear majority. But they started banging on about rebels who would plan to block everything in Parliament.WTF? how can they if they are majority government.

Oh well....off to vote, then...

Stig said:

Dazzler21 said:

Just EVERYONE get out and vote.

I don't care who you're voting for.

Alternatively, what about? If you're genuinely interested, you're probably going to vote anyway. If you're not really bothered, leave it to those who are.

If they're not bothered, now they'll just whine when they haven't voted and the old rhetoric 'If you didin't vote, you can't complain' will be banded about, just like post Brexit Referendum & post 2015 election etc...

I'm not sure if the saying or lack of voting is more annoying!

cafcfan said:

MuttleyCAFC said:

I know he is not eveyone's cup of tea, but he as sharp and eloquent a young man as I have seen, I found what he has said here stirring.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GscdUNyzN9U&t=6s

Young man? He's 42. That means he's teetering on old gitship! Just one year younger than Cameron was when he became PM.

Sadly, most people are young men compared to me!

PragueAddick said:

https://twitter.com/hunterprague/status/872836081686851584

Great MP Clive - supports the wrong team but a football man - fingers crossed for him.

PragueAddick said:

https://twitter.com/hunterprague/status/872836081686851584

Just bought one of those on Amazon.

There seems to be an intrinsic link between Labour and Remain in this election.

What about Tory remainers?

Labour are not campaigning to remain like the Lib Dems. They accept Brexit and will just ensure we will get the best deal we can through strong but sensible negotiation. May's tactics are like you going to buy a second hand car and you telling the seller you are going to make mincemeat of him in the negotiations and that he is a ****!

cafcpolo said:

Bournemouth Addick said:

cafcpolo said:

LenGlover said:

I usually watch elections avidly but not this time.

Think I may stay up just to check in on here and watch the place go in to meltdown IF a Tory win is looking likely. Won't need booze to keep me up, the comments should keep me chuckling throughout.

Seriously. Clearly this stuff doesn't really matter much to you othewise you wouldn't post silly, provocative comments like that. But as someone directly effected by the process, who is seeing first hand the dismantling of our public sector, I fail to see anything to be glib about. Perhaps you could have a "chuckle" about the possible consequences outlined in @AddickUpNorth 's post about the increased risk to prison officers, because I can't see anything to laugh about in it?

Its actually my first time voting and I have a reason to do so, and it'll be a Tory vote because my family and I will be better off for it.

It's not those comments I laugh at. More the sweeping generalisations grown men and women will be making about people who voted for the Tories. I've seen all sorts of assumptions made about the type of voter they are on here (none of which I fall into) and it makes me laugh. I just imagine this is happening at the other end.

Sorry but that's nonsense. As someone whose job prospects are looking decidedly worse in the next 24 hours shouldn't I be allowed to be angry at the situation I find myself in through no fault of my own? Shouldn't @AddickUpNorth be able to have a rant at the increasingly difficult situation he and his colleagues find themselves in? The fact is many of us directly involved in the public sector have been trying to enlighten you and others as to the reality of what's happened already and will continue to happen at a faster rate due to your voting choice if it's Tory.

You can choose to ignore those warnings if you like but you will not be able to ignore the effects. Whether that's increased waiting time in A&E, a worse care package for a relative, less classroom assistants for your kids or something as seemingly trivial as getting your rubbish collected only every three weeks (coming to your area soon btw!) these cuts will 100% effect you or your family in some way.

You might have voted to become "better off" financially, that's open to debate tbh, but if anyone thinks our public services, armed forces, NHS, railways, roads, etc, etc. will be in a better place in 2022 than even now, frankly prepare to be very disappointed...

Just got in and 152 new posts and not a single flag, impressive.
But i do think piddles is getting an easy ride make him earn his money I say.

This has been a good thread though it has made me laugh out loud at times.

blackpool72 said:

Just got in and 152 new posts and not a single flag, impressive.
But i do think piddles is getting an easy ride make him earn his money I say.

This has been a good thread though it has made me laugh out loud at times.

you are asking for a flag there

Bournemouth Addick said:

cafcpolo said:

Bournemouth Addick said:

cafcpolo said:

LenGlover said:

I usually watch elections avidly but not this time.

Think I may stay up just to check in on here and watch the place go in to meltdown IF a Tory win is looking likely. Won't need booze to keep me up, the comments should keep me chuckling throughout.

Seriously. Clearly this stuff doesn't really matter much to you othewise you wouldn't post silly, provocative comments like that. But as someone directly effected by the process, who is seeing first hand the dismantling of our public sector, I fail to see anything to be glib about. Perhaps you could have a "chuckle" about the possible consequences outlined in @AddickUpNorth 's post about the increased risk to prison officers, because I can't see anything to laugh about in it?

Its actually my first time voting and I have a reason to do so, and it'll be a Tory vote because my family and I will be better off for it.

It's not those comments I laugh at. More the sweeping generalisations grown men and women will be making about people who voted for the Tories. I've seen all sorts of assumptions made about the type of voter they are on here (none of which I fall into) and it makes me laugh. I just imagine this is happening at the other end.

Sorry but that's nonsense. As someone whose job prospects are looking decidedly worse in the next 24 hours shouldn't I be allowed to be angry at the situation I find myself in through no fault of my own? Shouldn't @AddickUpNorth be able to have a rant at the increasingly difficult situation he and his colleagues find themselves in? The fact is many of us directly involved in the public sector have been trying to enlighten you and others as to the reality of what's happened already and will continue to happen at a faster rate due to your voting choice if it's Tory.

You can choose to ignore those warnings if you like and but you will not be able to ignore the effects. Whether that's increased waiting time in A&E, a worse care package for a relative, less classroom assistants for your kids or something as seemingly trivial as getting your rubbish collected only every three weeks (coming to your area soon btw!) these cuts will 100% effect you or your family in some way.

You might have voted to become "better off" financially, that's open to debate tbh, but if anyone thinks our public services, armed forces, NHS, railways, roads, etc, etc. will be in a better place in 2022 than even now, frankly prepare to be very disappointed...

How do you know Polo's (or his family members) job prospects wouldn't be looking decidedly worse in the next 24 hours if Labour got in and therefore on balance that amongst other things is why he's chosen to vote as he has?

Part of the problem with Politics is we all think we are right, much like the politicians themselves, you wrote '....have been trying to enlighten you and others as to the reality of what's happened already and will continue to happen at a faster rate due to your voting choice if it's Tory'

You seem to think that anyone voting for anything but labour is an imbecile and can't work things out for themselves or make their own mind up and form their own view. That's part of the problem with Politics these days, most MP's seem to think the electorate (and other MP's/Parties with opposing views) are idiots.......

Super_Eddie_Youds said:

Covered End said:

Fiiish said:

Covered End said:

Fiiish said:

Voting to keep the Tories out, wherever you live, is the only sane thing to do. Unless you own a newspaper, they do not represent you.

There's some real desperation here. Laughable.

What's laughable is the fact in the last two months no one has posted a single defensible reason to vote Tory unless you are a millionaire.

You have also ignored all the really desperate posts calling Corbyn a disaster or similar. Take off the right wing goggles for once.

I think some of the silent majority decided there was no point debating with hysteria.

Yep I'm sure some of the silent majority acted en masse. Always organising, that lot.

The CL poll will be interesting, because if I'm right the Tories will win the CL poll and if you're right Labour will.

By the way you could well be right.

MuttleyCAFC said:

blackpool72 said:

Just got in and 152 new posts and not a single flag, impressive.
But i do think piddles is getting an easy ride make him earn his money I say.

This has been a good thread though it has made me laugh out loud at times.

you are asking for a flag there