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Agreed, although I suspect most of us are pretty pleased that's he's not a starting midfielder nowcantersaddick said:
I wonder how many times the words humble pie have been mentioned on this thread. Must be a record.Henry Irving said:Just like to point out that this thread was started in the 2013/4 season.
We are now in the 2017/18 season
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Yep bit he still could and will do a job for us.wmcf123 said:
Agreed, although I suspect most of us are pretty pleased that's he's not a starting midfielder nowcantersaddick said:
I wonder how many times the words humble pie have been mentioned on this thread. Must be a record.Henry Irving said:Just like to point out that this thread was started in the 2013/4 season.
We are now in the 2017/18 season
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In the right system i'd start him, maybe not every week but I think he'd shine at most away games.cantersaddick said:
Yep bit he still could and will do a job for us.wmcf123 said:
Agreed, although I suspect most of us are pretty pleased that's he's not a starting midfielder nowcantersaddick said:
I wonder how many times the words humble pie have been mentioned on this thread. Must be a record.Henry Irving said:Just like to point out that this thread was started in the 2013/4 season.
We are now in the 2017/18 season
Nuff said
He could easily play in front of the back 4 in an old fashioned sweeper role, but he doesn't really suit Robinson intense style, his football brain is still quicker than most though which gets him through. I'd certainly have him on the bench most of the time, you don't forget where the net is.5 -
Love the bloke, but no - he couldn't.Rob7Lee said:
In the right system i'd start him, maybe not every week but I think he'd shine at most away games.cantersaddick said:
Yep bit he still could and will do a job for us.wmcf123 said:
Agreed, although I suspect most of us are pretty pleased that's he's not a starting midfielder nowcantersaddick said:
I wonder how many times the words humble pie have been mentioned on this thread. Must be a record.Henry Irving said:Just like to point out that this thread was started in the 2013/4 season.
We are now in the 2017/18 season
Nuff said
He could easily play in front of the back 4 in an old fashioned sweeper role, but he doesn't really suit Robinson intense style, his football brain is still quicker than most though which gets him through. I'd certainly have him on the bench most of the time, you don't forget where the net is.6 -
If Jacko has a role in league matches, to me it would be as an attacking substitute, as he's too slow to play in central midfield in a defensive role.
We're chasing the game late on, forcing a series of corners, there's nobody better in the squad at ghosting into space in the box and getting his head on the ball.16 -
What about having him as a make shift Striker for a few games?4
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You need someone with bags of movement and energy to work and pressure the centre backs. He may offer something but he won't keep that up for a half never mind 90.ForeverAddickted said:What about having him as a make shift Striker for a few games?
I think he is a good steady pair of legs to see a game out sitting in midfield - or sometime to chuck on for a set piece at the end if we need a goal.3 -
2nd post on this threadDamoNorthStand said:Agree 100pc. Moving cousins out wide to accommodate him was madness from CP. Great for us two years ago. Behind Astrit, Poyet, cousins now.
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I disagree, we may not need him too with the midfielders we have and it's not Robinsons style but he's still got the legs to play in a 4 1 4 1 or 4 1 3 2 system being in front of the back 4 with the right other players but not a centre 2, not often anyway - where did he play against Exeter.daveydanger said:
Love the bloke, but no - he couldn't.Rob7Lee said:
In the right system i'd start him, maybe not every week but I think he'd shine at most away games.cantersaddick said:
Yep bit he still could and will do a job for us.wmcf123 said:
Agreed, although I suspect most of us are pretty pleased that's he's not a starting midfielder nowcantersaddick said:
I wonder how many times the words humble pie have been mentioned on this thread. Must be a record.Henry Irving said:Just like to point out that this thread was started in the 2013/4 season.
We are now in the 2017/18 season
Nuff said
He could easily play in front of the back 4 in an old fashioned sweeper role, but he doesn't really suit Robinson intense style, his football brain is still quicker than most though which gets him through. I'd certainly have him on the bench most of the time, you don't forget where the net is.
On his fitness I think you underestimate him, he managed 90 minutes at Exeter but his recovery period post a match is longer hence player/coach suits that. His body probably couldn't cope with 90 minutes week in week out especially over winter much like Solly for different reasons.
He may be in the later stages of a career but he's been written off for how many years now? I still believe in our relegation year if from January onwards you'd have let him choose what other 10 players he wanted to go into battle with we'd have remained a championship team. He knows how to win and how to grind out a result and get others to do the same, he's the best leader we've had for 10+ years and the importance of that shouldn't be underestimated.
Either way this debate will carry on until the golden boots are hung up at the end of the season.
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His main contribution now is his influence in the dressing room.
He has the total respect of his fellow players and his attitude has always been spot on.
I love the fact he is now one of our main coaches and I would name him as a sub just in case we need to Nick a goal late on.
A future Charlton manager I am sure.2 - Sponsored links:
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Harsh to bring that up. Astrit was a decent little player, Cousins was breaking through and who was player of the year?Henry Irving said:
2nd post on this threadDamoNorthStand said:Agree 100pc. Moving cousins out wide to accommodate him was madness from CP. Great for us two years ago. Behind Astrit, Poyet, cousins now.
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Yeah we should drop Kashi and play Jackson instead.Rob7Lee said:
I disagree, we may not need him too with the midfielders we have and it's not Robinsons style but he's still got the legs to play in a 4 1 4 1 or 4 1 3 2 system being in front of the back 4 with the right other players but not a centre 2, not often anyway - where did he play against Exeter.daveydanger said:
Love the bloke, but no - he couldn't.Rob7Lee said:
In the right system i'd start him, maybe not every week but I think he'd shine at most away games.cantersaddick said:
Yep bit he still could and will do a job for us.wmcf123 said:
Agreed, although I suspect most of us are pretty pleased that's he's not a starting midfielder nowcantersaddick said:
I wonder how many times the words humble pie have been mentioned on this thread. Must be a record.Henry Irving said:Just like to point out that this thread was started in the 2013/4 season.
We are now in the 2017/18 season
Nuff said
He could easily play in front of the back 4 in an old fashioned sweeper role, but he doesn't really suit Robinson intense style, his football brain is still quicker than most though which gets him through. I'd certainly have him on the bench most of the time, you don't forget where the net is.
On his fitness I think you underestimate him, he managed 90 minutes at Exeter but his recovery period post a match is longer hence player/coach suits that. His body probably couldn't cope with 90 minutes week in week out especially over winter much like Solly for different reasons.
He may be in the later stages of a career but he's been written off for how many years now? I still believe in our relegation year if from January onwards you'd have let him choose what other 10 players he wanted to go into battle with we'd have remained a championship team. He knows how to win and how to grind out a result and get others to do the same, he's the best leader we've had for 10+ years and the importance of that shouldn't be underestimated.
Either way this debate will carry on until the golden boots are hung up at the end of the season.
I don't mind Jackson playing occasionally but he can't start anymore, especially as a DM or LB. Best used for 20 mins when we need a bloke.
Jackson has been a rare great servant during times of uncertainty and I am delighted he is still with the club. I think Blackpool72 is spot on with his purpose this season.0 -
His fitness has often been underestimated but the team would suffer with him as a DM over Kashi. That's not to say he hasn't got anything to offer on the pitch, but I'm not sure that role suits him.Rob7Lee said:
I disagree, we may not need him too with the midfielders we have and it's not Robinsons style but he's still got the legs to play in a 4 1 4 1 or 4 1 3 2 system being in front of the back 4 with the right other players but not a centre 2, not often anyway - where did he play against Exeter.daveydanger said:
Love the bloke, but no - he couldn't.Rob7Lee said:
In the right system i'd start him, maybe not every week but I think he'd shine at most away games.cantersaddick said:
Yep bit he still could and will do a job for us.wmcf123 said:
Agreed, although I suspect most of us are pretty pleased that's he's not a starting midfielder nowcantersaddick said:
I wonder how many times the words humble pie have been mentioned on this thread. Must be a record.Henry Irving said:Just like to point out that this thread was started in the 2013/4 season.
We are now in the 2017/18 season
Nuff said
He could easily play in front of the back 4 in an old fashioned sweeper role, but he doesn't really suit Robinson intense style, his football brain is still quicker than most though which gets him through. I'd certainly have him on the bench most of the time, you don't forget where the net is.
On his fitness I think you underestimate him, he managed 90 minutes at Exeter but his recovery period post a match is longer hence player/coach suits that. His body probably couldn't cope with 90 minutes week in week out especially over winter much like Solly for different reasons.
He may be in the later stages of a career but he's been written off for how many years now? I still believe in our relegation year if from January onwards you'd have let him choose what other 10 players he wanted to go into battle with we'd have remained a championship team. He knows how to win and how to grind out a result and get others to do the same, he's the best leader we've had for 10+ years and the importance of that shouldn't be underestimated.
Either way this debate will carry on until the golden boots are hung up at the end of the season.
If Kashi is out I'd like to see Dijksteel get a chance over Crofts or Jackson.4 -
That's not what I said, my first line said we don't need to with the Midfielders we now have and the style Robinson plays and not for him in a centre 2. Jackson at his age doesn't fit that style to start every week or in front of JFC or Kashi.cafcfan1990 said:
Yeah we should drop Kashi and play Jackson instead.Rob7Lee said:
I disagree, we may not need him too with the midfielders we have and it's not Robinsons style but he's still got the legs to play in a 4 1 4 1 or 4 1 3 2 system being in front of the back 4 with the right other players but not a centre 2, not often anyway - where did he play against Exeter.daveydanger said:
Love the bloke, but no - he couldn't.Rob7Lee said:
In the right system i'd start him, maybe not every week but I think he'd shine at most away games.cantersaddick said:
Yep bit he still could and will do a job for us.wmcf123 said:
Agreed, although I suspect most of us are pretty pleased that's he's not a starting midfielder nowcantersaddick said:
I wonder how many times the words humble pie have been mentioned on this thread. Must be a record.Henry Irving said:Just like to point out that this thread was started in the 2013/4 season.
We are now in the 2017/18 season
Nuff said
He could easily play in front of the back 4 in an old fashioned sweeper role, but he doesn't really suit Robinson intense style, his football brain is still quicker than most though which gets him through. I'd certainly have him on the bench most of the time, you don't forget where the net is.
On his fitness I think you underestimate him, he managed 90 minutes at Exeter but his recovery period post a match is longer hence player/coach suits that. His body probably couldn't cope with 90 minutes week in week out especially over winter much like Solly for different reasons.
He may be in the later stages of a career but he's been written off for how many years now? I still believe in our relegation year if from January onwards you'd have let him choose what other 10 players he wanted to go into battle with we'd have remained a championship team. He knows how to win and how to grind out a result and get others to do the same, he's the best leader we've had for 10+ years and the importance of that shouldn't be underestimated.
Either way this debate will carry on until the golden boots are hung up at the end of the season.
I don't mind Jackson playing occasionally but he can't start anymore, especially as a DM or LB. Best used for 20 mins when we need a bloke.
Jackson has been a rare great servant during times of uncertainty and I am delighted he is still with the club. I think Blackpool72 is spot on with his purpose this season.0 -
Entitled to your opinion of course. Bit of a pointless discussion as Robinson has his system which will not change. He is still certainly a useful League 1 playerRob7Lee said:
That's not what I said, my first line said we don't need to with the Midfielders we now have and the style Robinson plays and not for him in a centre 2. Jackson at his age doesn't fit that style to start every week or in front of JFC or Kashi.cafcfan1990 said:
Yeah we should drop Kashi and play Jackson instead.Rob7Lee said:
I disagree, we may not need him too with the midfielders we have and it's not Robinsons style but he's still got the legs to play in a 4 1 4 1 or 4 1 3 2 system being in front of the back 4 with the right other players but not a centre 2, not often anyway - where did he play against Exeter.daveydanger said:
Love the bloke, but no - he couldn't.Rob7Lee said:
In the right system i'd start him, maybe not every week but I think he'd shine at most away games.cantersaddick said:
Yep bit he still could and will do a job for us.wmcf123 said:
Agreed, although I suspect most of us are pretty pleased that's he's not a starting midfielder nowcantersaddick said:
I wonder how many times the words humble pie have been mentioned on this thread. Must be a record.Henry Irving said:Just like to point out that this thread was started in the 2013/4 season.
We are now in the 2017/18 season
Nuff said
He could easily play in front of the back 4 in an old fashioned sweeper role, but he doesn't really suit Robinson intense style, his football brain is still quicker than most though which gets him through. I'd certainly have him on the bench most of the time, you don't forget where the net is.
On his fitness I think you underestimate him, he managed 90 minutes at Exeter but his recovery period post a match is longer hence player/coach suits that. His body probably couldn't cope with 90 minutes week in week out especially over winter much like Solly for different reasons.
He may be in the later stages of a career but he's been written off for how many years now? I still believe in our relegation year if from January onwards you'd have let him choose what other 10 players he wanted to go into battle with we'd have remained a championship team. He knows how to win and how to grind out a result and get others to do the same, he's the best leader we've had for 10+ years and the importance of that shouldn't be underestimated.
Either way this debate will carry on until the golden boots are hung up at the end of the season.
I don't mind Jackson playing occasionally but he can't start anymore, especially as a DM or LB. Best used for 20 mins when we need a bloke.
Jackson has been a rare great servant during times of uncertainty and I am delighted he is still with the club. I think Blackpool72 is spot on with his purpose this season.1 -
point was it was four seasons agocafcfan1990 said:
Harsh to bring that up. Astrit was a decent little player, Cousins was breaking through and who was player of the year?Henry Irving said:
2nd post on this threadDamoNorthStand said:Agree 100pc. Moving cousins out wide to accommodate him was madness from CP. Great for us two years ago. Behind Astrit, Poyet, cousins now.
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true enough. Maybe 4 seasons too late, but it's probably about right now. He certainly hasn't been as important in the last 4 years as he was in the few before that, but we have been and still are, lucky to have him.Henry Irving said:
point was it was four seasons agocafcfan1990 said:
Harsh to bring that up. Astrit was a decent little player, Cousins was breaking through and who was player of the year?Henry Irving said:
2nd post on this threadDamoNorthStand said:Agree 100pc. Moving cousins out wide to accommodate him was madness from CP. Great for us two years ago. Behind Astrit, Poyet, cousins now.
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Hi fitness isn't really in question.Rob7Lee said:
I disagree, we may not need him too with the midfielders we have and it's not Robinsons style but he's still got the legs to play in a 4 1 4 1 or 4 1 3 2 system being in front of the back 4 with the right other players but not a centre 2, not often anyway - where did he play against Exeter.daveydanger said:
Love the bloke, but no - he couldn't.Rob7Lee said:
In the right system i'd start him, maybe not every week but I think he'd shine at most away games.cantersaddick said:
Yep bit he still could and will do a job for us.wmcf123 said:
Agreed, although I suspect most of us are pretty pleased that's he's not a starting midfielder nowcantersaddick said:
I wonder how many times the words humble pie have been mentioned on this thread. Must be a record.Henry Irving said:Just like to point out that this thread was started in the 2013/4 season.
We are now in the 2017/18 season
Nuff said
He could easily play in front of the back 4 in an old fashioned sweeper role, but he doesn't really suit Robinson intense style, his football brain is still quicker than most though which gets him through. I'd certainly have him on the bench most of the time, you don't forget where the net is.
On his fitness I think you underestimate him, he managed 90 minutes at Exeter but his recovery period post a match is longer hence player/coach suits that. His body probably couldn't cope with 90 minutes week in week out especially over winter much like Solly for different reasons.
He may be in the later stages of a career but he's been written off for how many years now? I still believe in our relegation year if from January onwards you'd have let him choose what other 10 players he wanted to go into battle with we'd have remained a championship team. He knows how to win and how to grind out a result and get others to do the same, he's the best leader we've had for 10+ years and the importance of that shouldn't be underestimated.
Either way this debate will carry on until the golden boots are hung up at the end of the season.
Jackson is not mobile enough, quick enough or snappy enough at tackling these days to play DM - a position where you basically have to track the game the entire time and be 'everywhere'.
When he played last season, the opposition mostly played around/through him, and his tacking was consistently late. Plus, he has never really ever played that sweeper role in his entire career - not sure why he would start now.
Good for team spirit, good utility player to cover injuries, will poach the odd important goal from a corner in stoppage time, and bloody good all round guy.
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Well, he is also four years older.cafcfan1990 said:
true enough. Maybe 4 seasons too late, but it's probably about right now. He certainly hasn't been as important in the last 4 years as he was in the few before that, but we have been and still are, lucky to have him.Henry Irving said:
point was it was four seasons agocafcfan1990 said:
Harsh to bring that up. Astrit was a decent little player, Cousins was breaking through and who was player of the year?Henry Irving said:
2nd post on this threadDamoNorthStand said:Agree 100pc. Moving cousins out wide to accommodate him was madness from CP. Great for us two years ago. Behind Astrit, Poyet, cousins now.
Point is same people were writing him off four years ago but he just played 90 mins in a win.0 -
What's this got to do with anything?Henry Irving said:
2nd post on this threadDamoNorthStand said:Agree 100pc. Moving cousins out wide to accommodate him was madness from CP. Great for us two years ago. Behind Astrit, Poyet, cousins now.
Is this not more a sign of the backward progress we have made as a club? It was madness to move Cousins to accomodate him who is now playing at a higher level than Jacko. Poyet was player of the year. AA made the biggest contribution of all the early imports.
The fact he has played a part for longer than we thought is down to his determination to play to the best of his ability (which was never in doubt) and the fact that our midfield options in recent times have included the likes of Andrew Crofts and El Hadji Ba.5 - Sponsored links:
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4 years ago we were talking about a Championship midfield. Now he just played in a cup game against League 2 opposition (wouldn't have played if Page was fit).Henry Irving said:
Well, he is also four years older.cafcfan1990 said:
true enough. Maybe 4 seasons too late, but it's probably about right now. He certainly hasn't been as important in the last 4 years as he was in the few before that, but we have been and still are, lucky to have him.Henry Irving said:
point was it was four seasons agocafcfan1990 said:
Harsh to bring that up. Astrit was a decent little player, Cousins was breaking through and who was player of the year?Henry Irving said:
2nd post on this threadDamoNorthStand said:Agree 100pc. Moving cousins out wide to accommodate him was madness from CP. Great for us two years ago. Behind Astrit, Poyet, cousins now.
Point is same people were writing him off four years ago but he just played 90 mins in a win.1 -
all true but clearly his legs haven't gone now and they certainly hadn't gone four seasons ago when this thread was started.cafcfan1990 said:
4 years ago we were talking about a Championship midfield. Now he just played in a cup game against League 2 opposition (wouldn't have played if Page was fit).Henry Irving said:
Well, he is also four years older.cafcfan1990 said:
true enough. Maybe 4 seasons too late, but it's probably about right now. He certainly hasn't been as important in the last 4 years as he was in the few before that, but we have been and still are, lucky to have him.Henry Irving said:
point was it was four seasons agocafcfan1990 said:
Harsh to bring that up. Astrit was a decent little player, Cousins was breaking through and who was player of the year?Henry Irving said:
2nd post on this threadDamoNorthStand said:Agree 100pc. Moving cousins out wide to accommodate him was madness from CP. Great for us two years ago. Behind Astrit, Poyet, cousins now.
Point is same people were writing him off four years ago but he just played 90 mins in a win.
If I say Konsa's legs have gone I will be right. Eventually.9 -
yeah not disagreeing with you mate. I would say his legs are going now, but of course looking back with the fact this was started 4 years ago is laughable.Henry Irving said:
all true but clearly his legs haven't gone now and they certainly hadn't gone four seasons ago when this thread was started.cafcfan1990 said:
4 years ago we were talking about a Championship midfield. Now he just played in a cup game against League 2 opposition (wouldn't have played if Page was fit).Henry Irving said:
Well, he is also four years older.cafcfan1990 said:
true enough. Maybe 4 seasons too late, but it's probably about right now. He certainly hasn't been as important in the last 4 years as he was in the few before that, but we have been and still are, lucky to have him.Henry Irving said:
point was it was four seasons agocafcfan1990 said:
Harsh to bring that up. Astrit was a decent little player, Cousins was breaking through and who was player of the year?Henry Irving said:
2nd post on this threadDamoNorthStand said:Agree 100pc. Moving cousins out wide to accommodate him was madness from CP. Great for us two years ago. Behind Astrit, Poyet, cousins now.
Point is same people were writing him off four years ago but he just played 90 mins in a win.
If I say Konsa's legs have gone I will be right. Eventually.2 -
His legs are still there... They're poking out of his shorts and appear to slide into some socks... The other bloke also has legs, but they're a bit more stubby...
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Why is the Official site posting a picture of Solly and Jacko enjoying a whizz in a rockpool?Dazzler21 said:His legs are still there... They're poking out of his shorts and appear to slide into some socks... The other bloke also has legs, but they're a bit more stubby...
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I've said for years he would be a good player to come off the bench to score us a goal if in need. Whenever this thread us been brought back up by the same old posters it's because he has scored a goal and not his all round play on the pitch.4
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Having his head in the dressing room is one of the most important things for this club. Especially right now.0
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Katrien is happy as we've seen the back of Solly and JackoDazzler21 said:His legs are still there... They're poking out of his shorts and appear to slide into some socks... The other bloke also has legs, but they're a bit more stubby...
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Does this one have the record for most thread resurrections ever on CL?0
