The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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I would worry if any new ownership allows Richard Murray the role that he reportedly wants. Just because I think he is so tainted by association with the current regime that keeping him in situ would indicate a limited interest in the club.5
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I’m getting ahead of myself but we might need to speak a bit of Australian should the new owners arrive:
Ace! : Excellent! Very good!
Arvo : afternoon
Amber fluid : beer
Aussie : Australian
Beaut, beauty : great, fantastic
Big Mobs : loads, a lot of
Bloody : very
Bloody oath! : that's certainly true
Blue : argument/mistake
Bodgy : poor quality
Bonzer : great, ripper
Bottler : something excellent
Bottling : his blood's worth: he's an excellent, helpful bloke
Buckley's chance :
(you've got) no chance
Bull dust : rubbish
Cactus : dead, broken
Cark it : to die, stop working
Chocka : full up
Click : kilometre - "it's 20 clicks away"
Come a gutser : a bad mistake or have an accident
Come good : turn out ok
Cooee, not within : figuratively a long way away
Cost big bikkies : expensive
Crack a fat : get an erection
Cream, to : defeat by a large margin
Cut snake :
(mad as a) very angry
Dead dingo's donger :
(as dry as a) dry
Deadset : true / the truth
Dingo's breakfast : no breakfast
Dinkum / fair dinkum : true, real, genuine
Dinky-di : the real thing, genuine
Docket : a bill, receipt
Doco : documentary
Drink with the flies : to drink alone
Dunny rat :
(cunning as a) very cunning
Exy : expensive
Fair dinkum : true, genuine
Fair go : a chance / break
Fair suck of the sav! : exclamation of wonder, awe, disbelief
Furphy : rumour
G'Day : hello!
Give it a burl : try it, have a go
Give it away : give up
Going off : good fun
Good oil : useful information, a good idea, the truth
Good onya : well done
Grouse : great, terrific
Heaps : a lot
Iffy : dodgy
It's gone walkabout : it's lost, can't be found
Kangaroos loose
in the top paddock : Intellectually inadequate
Kick the bucket : to die
Knock back : refuse
London to a brick : absolute certainty
Lunch :
(who opened their?) OK, who farted?
Mate's rate : cheaper than usual for a friend
Mate's discount : cheaper than usual for a friend
No worries! : no problem / its okay
Nun's nasty :
(as dry as a) very dry
Piece of piss : easy task
Pig's arse! : I don't agree
Plate, bring a : Instruction to bring a plate of food to a party
Pozzy : position
Quid, make a : earn a living
Rack off : get lost! get out of here!
Reckon! : for sure
Ridgy-didge : original, genuine
Right : okay
Ripper : Great
Rooted : ruined, broken
She'll be apples : It'll be all right
She'll be right : it'll be okay
Sparrows fart : dawn
Strewth : exclamation
Stoked : very pleased
Stuffed, I'll be : expression of surprise
Too right : definitely
Turps, hit the : go on a drinking binge
Zack, not worth a : not worth anything
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I told you Henry wouldn't like it ;0)Henry Irving said:
You laugh but don't you wish we had an answer to that from the Spivs and from Duchatelet.Addickted said:Can I be the first to ask what the new owners exit strategy is?
Maybe we wouldn't be in the mess we are now.
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Me too but don't forget Muzza has a £2m debenture to be satisfied so will have some say and it is a drug for him to be involved at the top table.NornIrishAddick said:I would worry if any new ownership allows Richard Murray the role that he reportedly wants. Just because I think he is so tainted by association with the current regime that keeping him in situ would indicate a limited interest in the club.
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Without getting ahead of myself,do we actually know for sure that its the Australian consortium? Just this Muir fella? Sure it was on here somewhere that other parties were interested not so long ago?1
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I should think it's unlikely anybody enters into due diligence without an NDA because clearly the process involves sharing confidential information.northstandsteve said:What I would like to know is have any of Airman's sources confirmed whether a NDA has been signed and if so, does he think it helps putting it into the public domain ? I hope I am wrong but I have a feeling someone may have done this as they don't want the deal to go through.
None of my sources are the buyer or anyone with a financial stake, e.g. the former directors who stand to gain financially.
This story is a jigsaw. I have had some of the pieces for a while and yesterday I was given a piece so large that it persuaded me it was likely to break anyway. The problem for anyone involved in a takeover in football is that the circle of knowledge gets wider and wider as things progress.
I don't have all the pieces even now, but I do know for certain that the club has lawyers acting for it in a potential sale which is at an advanced stage. Any denial from the club should be viewed in that context.
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I can understand your concern and the " out of the frying pan and into the fire" argument in general. However your argument that we are doing well now loses some of its force when you realise that we are currently competing at a level that we shouldn't be at. It is only 6 months since we finished in one of our lowest league positions for eighty years. The man who appointed Karel Fraeye is still in charge of our club and he made that appointment after a decade of football club ownership. Both Roland and Katrien have made it abundantly clear that they have no real ambition to see us challenging for the Premier League.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
Not everyone wants to sit there in black and white scarves, throw toys on the pitch or stay away. Fans have left through their own choice and I was one of them historically before breaking the self imposed boycott in full this term.Nug said:
Crikey....you know the owner is toxic, fans are leaving in droves, we have the richest owner in our history but one who has no ambition to further Charlton as a competitive football team and you're happy to carry on as we are. I'm still amazed at how quickly people have changed their tune on getting these idiots out. Could new owners be worse? Yes. Could they be better? Yes. Maybe I'm prepared to take the chance because I won't be back till these idiots fuck off.Covered End said:
How can anything be worth a gamble when you don't know the runners and riders/team/contestants ?Nug said:
What's the current business model, alienate the fans and sell any young player with an ounce of talent? Amazing how quickly people forget what's gone on for the last 3 years after a half decent start to the season in a shit league. I think it's worth a gamble.SDAddick said:
These are my thoughts exactly.ShootersHillGuru said:I've missed out on a whole evening of posts having just spent the entire evening driving back from Devon.
Was hoping a little more detail had leaked out but seems not.
Based on the likelihood that it's the Aussies we're talking about just how certain are we that their ownership would be a safe pair of hands ? All the talk of not having enough funds have persisted although I guess that at least must have changed.
I presume we know their business model and we know that they have ambition but is that enough ?
I would hate us to jump out of the frying pan straight into the fire.
Just saying.
What exactly is their business model?
We all know the current owner is toxic, but at this stage, I for one know nothing about a potential new owner and their finances, so how can I possibly take a a gamble today ?
Give me some facts and I'd agree that on the balance of probability a new owner could be great, but with zero information I cannot.
If you look objectively at this season in isolation bar the clown tossery with Novak and the last minute transfer deadline striker fiasco albeit early doors I would say on balance the season has started successfully. Good team, good manager, Charlton people coaching set up, good team spirit, excellent ticket prices and competing at the top of the league. Didn't sell key players in the summer and added to the squad with signings who appear to have been the managers own.
Even the hugely incompetent CEO has been silenced from making any further gaffes. We are also a going concern with players, football and non football staff and suppliers all getting paid on time...this alone gives an edge when attracting players particularly at this level.
If things have been so terrible and "toxic" this season where are the protests?
The atmosphere in North upper was superb on Saturday and probably for the reasons outlined two paragraphs above.
Many have lost objectivity and balance as can be evidenced by assuming negativity in every single thing the club does these days which has further alienated and patronised those who have a different view and widened the division in our fan base.
The desire to get the owners out is clouding judgement. If you view our current season in isolation we are a going concern, spending on the training ground with a decent manager who in the main appears to be selecting and prucuring his players with relative autonomy.
I was vehemently in the get them out ASAP camp at all costs during the Fraeye era and attended the organic first few protests and an early CARD one whilst boycotting ie travelling to protest hanging about on my todd in a pub during the game and returning to barrack outside the west stand after.
I don't like the owner, rate the executive and will always resent them for the shit they bestowed in the early days and the resultant dwindling and divided fan base. They are in my opinion the worst Charlton ownership in my memory.
Whilst I am loathe to in anyway defend, justify or argue for them remaining I am trying to be objective and look at where we are today and am sceptical to the point of paranoia that in 2017 each new takeover in football particularly at this level is a gamble with the entire clubs going concern. If we were still in the karel Fraeye era and him and his.band of merry European pub players were leading us to obscurity then I would be very much of the attitude of any takeover is worth that risk as will be evidenced over many of my vitriolic posts against the regime in the past few years.
However as we stand from today I don't like them but I fear there could be far worse than what we have today and whilst I will try to be objective with new owners IF we getake them just will be very cautious and reserved in judging whether it is an improvement on what we currently have today until the evidence is there as after the last 10 years it would be silly not too.
Really hope it works out for us.
It could be that new owners could be worse than Roland but they would need to be very, very, very bad indeed to sink to that level.25 -
Regarding the Aussie players, they've hardly been prolific during WCQ. In fact, quite inept. They've still not qualified and have a difficult task against Honduras.se9addick said:StrikerFirmani said:@Redchaser I agree with all you say.
All we can do is see how it all pans out, who knows another consortium might show their hand if this one fails to complete a deal.
One thing is for sure until RD has gone in total, the club & the rift between fans are not going to heal.
Surely work permit issues would stop young Australian players who haven't yet played for the national team coming over en masse?Raith_C_Chattonell said:My concerns are from post one of this thread, particularly these bits from the Mail on line .
AFC, who have their sights on making Charlton the breeding ground for talent from Down Under, have undertaken initial due diligence with plans to turn Karl Robinson's side into 'Australia's Football Club'.
AFC's stated aim is to return Charlton to the Premier League, though there is a desire to create a natural link between the club and Australian football, making Charlton something of a feeder club for the next generation of Aussie superstars.
Nothing wrong with Premiership ambitions, but achieving it with ‘promising’ young Aussie lads seems about as likely as getting there with Belgian rejects. I hate to think of Charlton as a feeder club with a stolen identity.
Just to be clear, I want the present owner out, but surely the main objective must be to restore Charlton's identity.
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OK, so I do a bit of Voice of the Valley. I can handle it.killerandflash said:
Yes, Rick secretly emerges in his long coat ready to peddle his illicit wares...I usually disguise it in a copy of "Big 'Uns Monthly" to avoid suspicionDazzler21 said:@Airman Brown Just found VotV online and can say I've ordered my first one, if it's a decent read I may well sub.
It may be worthwhile to create a thread on here, potentially updating it with a blurb before each issue is due to go on sale.
I thought it had to be bought somewhere sneaky on a match day.1 -
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Amos on the wing said:
Everything crossed!!!!
Only things you've got at least two of.0 -
I'll only give that a 'Like' if you typed every one and didn't just copy and paste.Pedro45 said:Please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, PLEASE let it happen!
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Typical Charlton! Slagging off our new players already ; - )ozaddick said:
Regarding the Aussie players, they've hardly been prolific during WCQ. In fact, quite inept. They've still not qualified and have a difficult task against Honduras.se9addick said:StrikerFirmani said:@Redchaser I agree with all you say.
All we can do is see how it all pans out, who knows another consortium might show their hand if this one fails to complete a deal.
One thing is for sure until RD has gone in total, the club & the rift between fans are not going to heal.
Surely work permit issues would stop young Australian players who haven't yet played for the national team coming over en masse?Raith_C_Chattonell said:My concerns are from post one of this thread, particularly these bits from the Mail on line .
AFC, who have their sights on making Charlton the breeding ground for talent from Down Under, have undertaken initial due diligence with plans to turn Karl Robinson's side into 'Australia's Football Club'.
AFC's stated aim is to return Charlton to the Premier League, though there is a desire to create a natural link between the club and Australian football, making Charlton something of a feeder club for the next generation of Aussie superstars.
Nothing wrong with Premiership ambitions, but achieving it with ‘promising’ young Aussie lads seems about as likely as getting there with Belgian rejects. I hate to think of Charlton as a feeder club with a stolen identity.
Just to be clear, I want the present owner out, but surely the main objective must be to restore Charlton's identity.13 -
I received my first package the other day, started with a few lines, progressed onto a few pages... but it's some strong stuff. I couldn't finish it all in one session.AddicksAddict said:
OK, so I do a bit of Voice of the Valley. I can handle it.killerandflash said:
Yes, Rick secretly emerges in his long coat ready to peddle his illicit wares...I usually disguise it in a copy of "Big 'Uns Monthly" to avoid suspicionDazzler21 said:@Airman Brown Just found VotV online and can say I've ordered my first one, if it's a decent read I may well sub.
It may be worthwhile to create a thread on here, potentially updating it with a blurb before each issue is due to go on sale.
I thought it had to be bought somewhere sneaky on a match day.3 -
That will be wonderful, but you have to have some sympathy for the next poor buggers Roland lumbers with her.AFKABartram said:Refuse to get my hopes up until it's completed and I see the words
'as part of the ownership change, Katrien Meire has stepped down as Chief Executive '0 -
back to the burger van u go----- karma gota love it4
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Of course not! That would be like scouting a player Charlton want to sign in real life rather than just on FIFA2016 wouldn't it?!?AddicksAddict said:
I'll only give that a 'Like' if you typed every one and didn't just copy and paste.Pedro45 said:Please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, PLEASE let it happen!
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The black and white items will always be a symbol of how fans can mobilise and come together.PeterGage said:For sale: one unwanted black/white scarf, one XL black/white quartered shirt and a donkey costume.
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How many pieces is in the jigsaw.0
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I can see her wanting to stick around, if there is a takeover. I think she feels that she has done a very good job. I've worked with and for people like her before.AddicksAddict said:
That will be wonderful, but you have to have some sympathy for the next poor buggers Roland lumbers with her.AFKABartram said:Refuse to get my hopes up until it's completed and I see the words
'as part of the ownership change, Katrien Meire has stepped down as Chief Executive '0 -
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It's a bit hard marching someone out of a ground he hasn't been to for three years!cantersaddick said:
Fuck that. I want a parade where RD KM Keohane and the rest are marched out of the ground whilst we throw eggs and rotten tomatoes at them.Macronate said:.
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firstly, anyone HAS to be a better owner than the current incumbent.
Robinson, I neither like nor dislike the fella, yes, new owners generally mean a new manager/coach, and normally they want to do it their way, so that would mean probably no SCP.But should Robbo get us promoted then its unlikely he will be disposed of, (unless of course he had a bad run in the Champs).
I like the Aussie sporting psyche, they like to win, but they also are very thorough. they would be much more 'transparent' and open than the current wankas.
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Knowing my luck, she'll probably get a job with Kent CricketAddicksAddict said:
That will be wonderful, but you have to have some sympathy for the next poor buggers Roland lumbers with her.AFKABartram said:Refuse to get my hopes up until it's completed and I see the words
'as part of the ownership change, Katrien Meire has stepped down as Chief Executive '13 -
Where do I pick up my CL badge? I've obviously 'made it' on here.Henry Irving said:
Typical Charlton! Slagging off our new players already ; - )ozaddick said:
Regarding the Aussie players, they've hardly been prolific during WCQ. In fact, quite inept. They've still not qualified and have a difficult task against Honduras.se9addick said:StrikerFirmani said:@Redchaser I agree with all you say.
All we can do is see how it all pans out, who knows another consortium might show their hand if this one fails to complete a deal.
One thing is for sure until RD has gone in total, the club & the rift between fans are not going to heal.
Surely work permit issues would stop young Australian players who haven't yet played for the national team coming over en masse?Raith_C_Chattonell said:My concerns are from post one of this thread, particularly these bits from the Mail on line .
AFC, who have their sights on making Charlton the breeding ground for talent from Down Under, have undertaken initial due diligence with plans to turn Karl Robinson's side into 'Australia's Football Club'.
AFC's stated aim is to return Charlton to the Premier League, though there is a desire to create a natural link between the club and Australian football, making Charlton something of a feeder club for the next generation of Aussie superstars.
Nothing wrong with Premiership ambitions, but achieving it with ‘promising’ young Aussie lads seems about as likely as getting there with Belgian rejects. I hate to think of Charlton as a feeder club with a stolen identity.
Just to be clear, I want the present owner out, but surely the main objective must be to restore Charlton's identity.
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Tim Cahill seen in Co-op New Eltham, had a flask, blanket and a train timetable with him.
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@carly burn It seems that you don't have a lot of faith in Keith Harris. I have no idea as to the voracity of any claims that he's involved, but I would hazard a guess that his involvement make most people more confident of a consortium's credentials than less.carly burn said:The Aussies were definitely struggling for capital a few months ago.
So much so that I nearly had a meeting with the mighty Keith Harris (I kid you not!)
Their blueprint was fanciful in my view but they are passionate about their sport so who knows.
Just hope they've got someone involved with more clout than a biscuit factory owner from shuttleworth! ( my fake persona for investigative purposes!)
He has a stellar cv in terms of both finance and football. So if the potential owners are taking advice from him, I would see that as a very good thing. It's worth bearing in mind who he has had dealings with - Roman Abramovich, Mohammed el Fayad, Thaksin Shinawatra, Randy Lerner - and which football club transactions and/or takeovers he's been involved in - Everton, Fulham, Cardiff City, Aston Villa, Liverpool, Manchester United, Manchester City, West Ham...
What do all those people have in common, apart from stewardship of British football clubs? They're loaded.
What do all those clubs have in common? They're all doing better than Charlton right now.
I have no idea whether Keith Harris is involved with Charlton's potential new owners. But if he is, I would say that's a very positive thing.7 -
You forgot the most important one - bottle shop.Solidgone said:
I’m getting ahead of myself but we might need to speak a bit of Australian should the new owners arrive:
Ace! : Excellent! Very good!
Arvo : afternoon
Amber fluid : beer
Aussie : Australian
Beaut, beauty : great, fantastic
Big Mobs : loads, a lot of
Bloody : very
Bloody oath! : that's certainly true
Blue : argument/mistake
Bodgy : poor quality
Bonzer : great, ripper
Bottler : something excellent
Bottling : his blood's worth: he's an excellent, helpful bloke
Buckley's chance :
(you've got) no chance
Bull dust : rubbish
Cactus : dead, broken
Cark it : to die, stop working
Chocka : full up
Click : kilometre - "it's 20 clicks away"
Come a gutser : a bad mistake or have an accident
Come good : turn out ok
Cooee, not within : figuratively a long way away
Cost big bikkies : expensive
Crack a fat : get an erection
Cream, to : defeat by a large margin
Cut snake :
(mad as a) very angry
Dead dingo's donger :
(as dry as a) dry
Deadset : true / the truth
Dingo's breakfast : no breakfast
Dinkum / fair dinkum : true, real, genuine
Dinky-di : the real thing, genuine
Docket : a bill, receipt
Doco : documentary
Drink with the flies : to drink alone
Dunny rat :
(cunning as a) very cunning
Exy : expensive
Fair dinkum : true, genuine
Fair go : a chance / break
Fair suck of the sav! : exclamation of wonder, awe, disbelief
Furphy : rumour
G'Day : hello!
Give it a burl : try it, have a go
Give it away : give up
Going off : good fun
Good oil : useful information, a good idea, the truth
Good onya : well done
Grouse : great, terrific
Heaps : a lot
Iffy : dodgy
It's gone walkabout : it's lost, can't be found
Kangaroos loose
in the top paddock : Intellectually inadequate
Kick the bucket : to die
Knock back : refuse
London to a brick : absolute certainty
Lunch :
(who opened their?) OK, who farted?
Mate's rate : cheaper than usual for a friend
Mate's discount : cheaper than usual for a friend
No worries! : no problem / its okay
Nun's nasty :
(as dry as a) very dry
Piece of piss : easy task
Pig's arse! : I don't agree
Plate, bring a : Instruction to bring a plate of food to a party
Pozzy : position
Quid, make a : earn a living
Rack off : get lost! get out of here!
Reckon! : for sure
Ridgy-didge : original, genuine
Right : okay
Ripper : Great
Rooted : ruined, broken
She'll be apples : It'll be all right
She'll be right : it'll be okay
Sparrows fart : dawn
Strewth : exclamation
Stoked : very pleased
Stuffed, I'll be : expression of surprise
Too right : definitely
Turps, hit the : go on a drinking binge
Zack, not worth a : not worth anything0 -
agreed, I fucking love orvilleChizz said:
@carly burn It seems that you don't have a lot of faith in Keith Harris. I have no idea as to the voracity of any claims that he's involved, but I would hazard a guess that his involvement make most people more confident of a consortium's credentials than less.carly burn said:The Aussies were definitely struggling for capital a few months ago.
So much so that I nearly had a meeting with the mighty Keith Harris (I kid you not!)
Their blueprint was fanciful in my view but they are passionate about their sport so who knows.
Just hope they've got someone involved with more clout than a biscuit factory owner from shuttleworth! ( my fake persona for investigative purposes!)
He has a stellar cv in terms of both finance and football. So if the potential owners are taking advice from him, I would see that as a very good thing. It's worth bearing in mind who he has had dealings with - Roman Abramovich, Mohammed el Fayad, Thaksin Shinawatra, Randy Lerner - and which football club transactions and/or takeovers he's been involved in - Everton, Fulham, Cardiff City, Aston Villa, Liverpool, Manchester United, Manchester City, West Ham...
What do all those people have in common, apart from stewardship of British football clubs? They're loaded.
What do all those clubs have in common? They're all doing better than Charlton right now.
I have no idea whether Keith Harris is involved with Charlton's potential new owners. But if he is, I would say that's a very positive thing.15 -
Never really been into all that religious stuff,but fuck me,in last couple days I've been proper practicing at it...ain't stopped praying for this to actually happen...!!!
This time Douchbag come on please,sell sell sell,go forth & just fuck off with the rest of your minions...Amen
Ps I have got no problems & nothing against the real minions by the way...!!1
