I have at times in my life been thoughtless and inconsiderate. It’s for others to judge but overall I don’t think I’m such a bad person. I don’t know Bob Whitehand but I won’t judge him on one moment in his life. The fact is that he’s holding a piece of paper, along with others, which, if I’m correct, has prevented Duchatelet fulfilling his plans for the Valley. Just take a look at St Truiden’s ‘stadium’. For that I am thankful.
Well Len, all I would say is that Murray's credibility had long since gone, and I for one stopped believing anything he said for at least the last 2-3 years.
I agree hence the use of the word 'supposedly.'
However CARD, with key members like CAST having a constitutional duty to (try and) engage with the Club, probably felt there was little alternative once Murray stuck his head over the parapet but to cease protests in the event of what has transpired to be a pretend takeover as removing Duchatelet was CARD's raison d'etre and continued protests with a pending takeover would have been absurd.
Rubberbloke has taken us all for mugs in my opinion.
None of it has anything to do with Rubashow, who is a junior figure and of no relevance. He certainly hasn’t been masterminding some deception to stifle protests. Do you really think he was responsible for Meire leaving, the detailed work carried out by PwC, Mishcon, and the public appearances of the two Muirs, McLeish and Murphy?
There are and have been two considerations - 1) is Duchatelet genuinely trying to sell the club and 2) would protests have commanded widespread support. As far as I’m concerned, the answers are yes and no.
If there is no takeover, Duchatelet will not enjoy the close season.
I haven't been on Board since 2010 , never met Prague and Tommy Langley gave me and Curbs Kishishev, I spoke to Prague in 1999/2000 once,after lead was already in place,and so I am a **** , you judge?
In all honesty, if that was you only dealing with him your comment seems OTT to me, to put in a public forum. He may well have simply forgot.
I asked him several times. Then after that there was a separate thing, which I'll just summarize as the "Czech talent scout " project, which I put a lot of work into. I won't go into it here, but I'll be happy to remind him, if he has forgotten that too. If an idea doesn't fly, fine. There are ways though of setting ideas aside, the classy way, and the other way, especially when people are doing things for free. That was probably the biggest mistake in dealing with him. If we had both said, sure Bob, we can help on this, our going rate is £300 an hour, we might have had a different response.
and the reason why I am still going on about it after so long is that my buddy reminds me about it virtually every time we talk about Charlton. To him it's evidence that I was naive about how great a club Charlton, and the people running it, was then. That both pisses me off and hurts at the same time. So yes it's an ugly word, but it was ugly behaviour, and I'd happily tell him face to face why I wrote about it.
As it happens we are planning on meeting up in Bourgas in summer and hoping to drop in on Kishi when we do, so I might get a refresher of the whole saga, and write it all up. There's the whole separate chapter with West Ham and Redknapp to tell, if he is ok with telling of course. If I recall rightly, RW was due to meet Kishi off the plane at Heathrow, but Mr Ganchev The Wrestler was playing a double game, and Redknapp managed to whisk Kishi away through a VIP exit. But Kishi arrived injured, and when he discovered that, Redknapp just left him stranded in some hotel. None of that was RW's fault, but it was my buddy who tracked Kishi down and got him back on track with RW. It really was quite a saga, and agents are paid thousands to sort that kind of shit out. As RW knew well, and that's my point. If people offer themselves up as useful idiots because they love their club ( or their mate's club) you could at least thank them, rather than just shove their useful idiocy back in their faces.
Getting back to the current plight of our club, I guess as of now LB has departed and we have JJ holding the fort. If there is a buyer out there then surely it makes sense for the buyer and RD to get the sale completed asap so the club can prepare for next season. It just doesn’t make sense to delay unless of course there isn’t a buyer still there.
I haven't been on Board since 2010 , never met Prague and Tommy Langley gave me and Curbs Kishishev, I spoke to Prague in 1999/2000 once,after lead was already in place,and so
I haven't been on Board since 2010 , never met Prague and Tommy Langley gave me and Curbs Kishishev, I spoke to Prague in 1999/2000 once,after lead was already in place,and so I am a **** , you judge?
Ah, OK, Bob...
I am not suggesting Vasco acted as an agent in the deal, if that is what you are implying. He was just able to help, because he knew Kishi as one of the Euro 96 squad. That's how I met Kishi, and told Richard Murray about him but we didn't have a pot to piss in then so nothing was done about it. But as it happens, Vasco has stayed friends with Tommy Langley ever since then. That explained this photo from his visit to our Bristol Rovers game, which he teased me with for several days. Seems it was Tommy who arranged with Chris Parkes to get Vasco a VIP pass for Bristol Rovers.
What about the other stuff, am I incorrect on anything? I realise it was all of no consequence to you, and that's just how it is, but I have not made anything up, have I?
Getting back to the current plight of our club, I guess as of now LB has departed and we have JJ holding the fort. If there is a buyer out there then surely it makes sense for the buyer and RD to get the sale completed asap so the club can prepare for next season. It just doesn’t make sense to delay unless of course there isn’t a buyer still there.
Over the last 4.5 years there've been many things that make no sense
In all honesty, if that was you only dealing with him your comment seems OTT to me, to put in a public forum. He may well have simply forgot.
I asked him several times. Then after that there was a separate thing, which I'll just summarize as the "Czech talent scout " project, which I put a lot of work into. I won't go into it here, but I'll be happy to remind him, if he has forgotten that too. If an idea doesn't fly, fine. There are ways though of setting ideas aside, the classy way, and the other way, especially when people are doing things for free. That was probably the biggest mistake in dealing with him. If we had both said, sure Bob, we can help on this, our going rate is £300 an hour, we might have had a different response.
and the reason why I am still going on about it after so long is that my buddy reminds me about it virtually every time we talk about Charlton. To him it's evidence that I was naive about how great a club Charlton, and the people running it, was then. That both pisses me off and hurts at the same time. So yes it's an ugly word, but it was ugly behaviour, and I'd happily tell him face to face why I wrote about it.
As it happens we are planning on meeting up in Bourgas in summer and hoping to drop in on Kishi when we do, so I might get a refresher of the whole saga, and write it all up. There's the whole separate chapter with West Ham and Redknapp to tell, if he is ok with telling of course. If I recall rightly, RW was due to meet Kishi off the plane at Heathrow, but Mr Ganchev The Wrestler was playing a double game, and Redknapp managed to whisk Kishi away through a VIP exit. But Kishi arrived injured, and when he discovered that, Redknapp just left him stranded in some hotel. None of that was RW's fault, but it was my buddy who tracked Kishi down and got him back on track with RW. It really was quite a saga, and agents are paid thousands to sort that kind of shit out. As RW knew well, and that's my point. If people offer themselves up as useful idiots because they love their club ( or their mate's club) you could at least thank them, rather than just shove their useful idiocy back in their faces.
He don't sound like a very good buddy to me, Prague.
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It's true, what I wrote though, isn't it Bob?
We know you’re out there Bob..
If it was the latter, who was it?
I don’t know Bob Whitehand but I won’t judge him on one moment in his life.
The fact is that he’s holding a piece of paper, along with others, which, if I’m correct, has prevented Duchatelet fulfilling his plans for the Valley. Just take a look at St Truiden’s ‘stadium’.
For that I am thankful.
Love watching a bit of pensioner Aggro me which one is Ronnie Pickering and which one is Daddy Coyle (boxing fans will get it )
Do you still like a quick half down at the Bricklayers Bob?
and the reason why I am still going on about it after so long is that my buddy reminds me about it virtually every time we talk about Charlton. To him it's evidence that I was naive about how great a club Charlton, and the people running it, was then. That both pisses me off and hurts at the same time. So yes it's an ugly word, but it was ugly behaviour, and I'd happily tell him face to face why I wrote about it.
As it happens we are planning on meeting up in Bourgas in summer and hoping to drop in on Kishi when we do, so I might get a refresher of the whole saga, and write it all up. There's the whole separate chapter with West Ham and Redknapp to tell, if he is ok with telling of course. If I recall rightly, RW was due to meet Kishi off the plane at Heathrow, but Mr Ganchev The Wrestler was playing a double game, and Redknapp managed to whisk Kishi away through a VIP exit. But Kishi arrived injured, and when he discovered that, Redknapp just left him stranded in some hotel. None of that was RW's fault, but it was my buddy who tracked Kishi down and got him back on track with RW. It really was quite a saga, and agents are paid thousands to sort that kind of shit out. As RW knew well, and that's my point. If people offer themselves up as useful idiots because they love their club ( or their mate's club) you could at least thank them, rather than just shove their useful idiocy back in their faces.
Will the return be a lob or a drop shot?
It just doesn’t make sense to delay unless of course there isn’t a buyer still there.
I am not suggesting Vasco acted as an agent in the deal, if that is what you are implying. He was just able to help, because he knew Kishi as one of the Euro 96 squad. That's how I met Kishi, and told Richard Murray about him but we didn't have a pot to piss in then so nothing was done about it. But as it happens, Vasco has stayed friends with Tommy Langley ever since then. That explained this photo from his visit to our Bristol Rovers game, which he teased me with for several days. Seems it was Tommy who arranged with Chris Parkes to get Vasco a VIP pass for Bristol Rovers.
What about the other stuff, am I incorrect on anything? I realise it was all of no consequence to you, and that's just how it is, but I have not made anything up, have I?