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Summer 2018 transfer rumours

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  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,028
    cafc4life said:

    Very disappointed if that's the case. Rather we offload Ajose

    He'll probably go as well.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    After Northern Ireland got knocked out of the World Cup he seemed to become half the player. When he was on his game, he was terrific though.
  • All the people saying it’s ‘good news’ and ‘not sad to see him go’......

    Why?

    It won’t make a jot of difference to our prospects of inbound players.

    All the sale does is line Roland’s pockets.

    In that sense (and taking in to account our squad size) I don’t want anyone to leave.

    There isn't many saying that, quite the opposite really.

    In my opinion he is asked to do too much and goals are a bonus. He doesn't tget the luxury to concentrate on 'just' scoring goals. He does work hard but he is asked to do a lot for the team.
    When he gets his chances the shots are normally a bit weak or gets there just a tadge late. This I think is where he is knackered most the time running himself in the ground.

    I was close to the bench on Tuesday night and I'd honestly be amazed if Ajose stays over Josh just from the vibe I was getting from the bench.

    Good under estimated player and will be a miss in this league.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,374
    If he’s so terrible why is he moving up a division?

    We have a small squad and it’s very possible he won’t be replaced - why is selling him a good thing?

    Robinson’s squad had too many small not so physical players. Bowyer’s trying to change that. Selling Magennis makes that worse not better.

    Bowyer plays two strikers which will naturally result in more direct football than we played under Robinson. Without Magennis we don’t have an aerial threat, there’s no one that’s anything even like a target man.

    Can see Bauer being next to go and like Magennis he’ll need replacing.
  • I thought Bolton were totally skint and in financial trouble so i'm surprised they're bidding for anyone.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344

    After Northern Ireland got knocked out of the World Cup he seemed to become half the player. When he was on his game, he was terrific though.

    It simply wasn't often enough and his wastefulness in front of goal cost us more points than his goals earned us last season I'm sure.

    So many times when a sideward lay off was the better option. Or flicks towards the opponent's goal when he was our furthest option forward.

    I agree he worked his nuts off, but I'm not sure we or he knew how to use him most effectively.
  • Quite a few people don't seem too fussed at him going, which i can understand as he didn't score many but i think his overall work for the team was under rated and i doubt we're going to replace him so for me it's not really good news.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    Scoham said:

    If he’s so terrible why is he moving up a division?

    We have a small squad and it’s very possible he won’t be replaced - why is selling him a good thing?

    Robinson’s squad had too many small not so physical players. Bowyer’s trying to change that. Selling Magennis makes that worse not better.

    Bowyer plays two strikers which will naturally result in more direct football than we played under Robinson. Without Magennis we don’t have an aerial threat, there’s no one that’s anything even like a target man.

    Can see Bauer being next to go and like Magennis he’ll need replacing.

    It's not a great thing but it's simply not the end of the world.
  • That’s because they will get him on the cheap because of the amazing leader we have. Any club bidding for one of our players will put in stupid offers as they know what a shambles we are.
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,476
    Every transfer window under Roly's ownership the squad has shrunk and become weaker, Josh has his faults but I can't believe people are happy to see him go. Taylor seems a better player but we need two decent line leaders not one or yet again we are leaving ourselves short, as our owner always lets us have decent replacements for his sales.
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  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,878
    People are saying that transfer sales are going into Roland’s back pocket! Maybe, just maybe that any funds will be used to pay off director loans.....one step back, two stops forward?

    Nah, all money is going straight to Roland and will stay in his cob web covered wallet
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,976
    Last season we sold all striking options at the end of the window and didn’t replace anyone. This left us short up front and cost us promotion.

    If history repeats itself it’s betond a joke. It’s fucking idiocy.

    The one striker I want to sell is Ajose and yet he keeps his place in the squad on some stupidly high wage (hence nobody will buy him). Averaging a goal per season for us - brilliant.

    If Roland wanted promotion he would find and buy a decent striker to complement what we have - he doesn’t appear to want that. He appears to want to make every single fan want to hate him. It’s going well Roly, you’ve mastered that.
  • _MrDick
    _MrDick Posts: 13,103
    Haven’t seen too much of Josh to give an informed opinion, but what I have seen is that he’s an honest player and our paper thin squad will miss him. Wish him all the best
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,976
    And anyone thinking we are better off without Josh has rocks in their head. Defensively he is very very good. Maybe the new midfielders can fulfil that role but we must get s striker or two in
  • Simonsen
    Simonsen Posts: 5,498
    Swisdom said:

    And anyone thinking we are better off without Josh has rocks in their head. Defensively he is very very good. Maybe the new midfielders can fulfil that role but we must get s striker or two in

    Maybe Karlan Grant is the "new striker?" And given his showings at Crawley last season, he probably ought to be given a fair few opportunities up top.
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,878
    Swisdom said:

    Last season we sold all striking options at the end of the window and didn’t replace anyone. This left us short up front and cost us promotion.

    If history repeats itself it’s betond a joke. It’s fucking idiocy.

    The one striker I want to sell is Ajose and yet he keeps his place in the squad on some stupidly high wage (hence nobody will buy him). Averaging a goal per season for us - brilliant.

    If Roland wanted promotion he would find and buy a decent striker to complement what we have - he doesn’t appear to want that. He appears to want to make every single fan want to hate him. It’s going well Roly, you’ve mastered that.

    Averages a goal a season???? He has been a Charlton player for two seasons and spent a total of 1 season out on loan and a total of one season as a Charlton player. During that time he has scored 7 or 8 goals? I haven’t got a degree in maths but I’m pretty sure that averages more than a goal a season.
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,976
    3.5 goals per season. I take it all back. Should have gone to Russia. Makes Josh’s 10 goals a season and many defensive contributions seem trifling.

    He’s crap. He’s arrogant. He slow and he’s small. He doesn’t have a trick, doesn’t seem to have much of a football brain. Look at his Swindon glory season - most goals were tap-ins. He’s still living off that.

    I agree Karlan deserves a chance and I do think he has got the ability to do well, but we need more options up front and we need to make sure they don’t have Ajose on the back of the shirt.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,558

    After Northern Ireland got knocked out of the World Cup he seemed to become half the player. When he was on his game, he was terrific though.

    Can’t agree that he’s ‘terrific’. An honest players, tries hard but not terrific and a poor goal scorer.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,374
    Dazzler21 said:

    Scoham said:

    If he’s so terrible why is he moving up a division?

    We have a small squad and it’s very possible he won’t be replaced - why is selling him a good thing?

    Robinson’s squad had too many small not so physical players. Bowyer’s trying to change that. Selling Magennis makes that worse not better.

    Bowyer plays two strikers which will naturally result in more direct football than we played under Robinson. Without Magennis we don’t have an aerial threat, there’s no one that’s anything even like a target man.

    Can see Bauer being next to go and like Magennis he’ll need replacing.

    It's not a great thing but it's simply not the end of the world.
    Not suggesting it is, just that he’ll be missed unless he’s replaced. Even just as an option in the squad.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    I really like Josh as a person, don't mind him as a player, and will be very sorry to see him go, as will his teammates I reckon.
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  • Red7Oak
    Red7Oak Posts: 498
    edited July 2018
    Swisdom said:

    And anyone thinking we are better off without Josh has rocks in their head. Defensively he is very very good. Maybe the new midfielders can fulfil that role but we must get s striker or two in

    Perhaps we'll get a defender in to replace him then! :smiley:
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,313
    All roads lead to Naby
  • Imnot Athletic
    Imnot Athletic Posts: 1,017
    seth plum said:

    I really like Josh as a person, don't mind him as a player, and will be very sorry to see him go, as will his teammates I reckon.

    This!

    Also, what did we pay for him? £150k was the rumoured fee if I recall. I don’t get all of these “sold on the cheap” comments. He’s in the last year of his contract with us
  • smudge7946
    smudge7946 Posts: 4,131
    This is good news.
    Grant and Hackett have the golden opportunity to step up.
    They both have the potential to own the league this season.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,840
    Josh's movement in the box isn't great, which makes him easy to mark. For all his qualities, you can see he's not a natural striker
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,878
    Swisdom said:

    3.5 goals per season. I take it all back. Should have gone to Russia. Makes Josh’s 10 goals a season and many defensive contributions seem trifling.

    He’s crap. He’s arrogant. He slow and he’s small. He doesn’t have a trick, doesn’t seem to have much of a football brain. Look at his Swindon glory season - most goals were tap-ins. He’s still living off that.

    I agree Karlan deserves a chance and I do think he has got the ability to do well, but we need more options up front and we need to make sure they don’t have Ajose on the back of the shirt.

    No. 7 goals in one season in a Charlton shirt equals to 7 goals a season on average. He scored a similar amount on loan at Swindon. So that’s around 14 in two seasons. I agree that this is a poor record and he should be moved on. It would be interesting to see the goals per minutes comparison with Magennis over the last two seasons. I bet Magennis has played more minutes but Ajose has a better record overal.
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330

    This is good news.
    Grant and Hackett have the golden opportunity to step up.
    They both have the potential to own the league this season.

    The both have the potential to be locked up in a cell in Ibiza.
    Highly unlikely.
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,671
    I couldn't give a toss if my striker can defend from corners, give me a goal scorer anyday
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,878

    I couldn't give a toss if my striker can defend from corners, give me a goal scorer anyday

    Agreed. All 11 players defending means the ball always comes straight back if we clear it.