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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)

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  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    i_b_b_o_r_g said:
    JamesSeed said:
    Dalman couldn’t get the funds together in time for the deadline. 
    Keep ‘em peeled at The Valley and training ground, as there might be some Chinese visitors apparently. 
    Is this true, or was it the introduction of the extra £7m payable that they fell out over?
    Raising funds was the issue I’m hearing. Mind you, they could easily have fallen out over any number of things. Lol 
  • CafcSCP
    CafcSCP Posts: 1,464
    Wonder if Dalman is playing Roly at his own game?
    Tough negotiator and if Roly thinks he's walked then he may be flexible on the deal.
    Roly on the other hand is sticking to the three parties are interested line hoping Dalman will bend.
    Stalemate ensues!!
    Wouldn't be surprised if this still gets completed.
    I'm not ITK obvs, but that's just the impression I get.
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,334
    oldbloke said:
    Doesnt Dalman have connections with Chinese?
    Yes.  He owns/runs Envision Real Estate Capital Partners, which is a vehicle used for funding Chinese property speculators' acquisitions.  
  • CharltonByBlood
    CharltonByBlood Posts: 1,900
    JamesSeed said:
    i_b_b_o_r_g said:
    JamesSeed said:
    Dalman couldn’t get the funds together in time for the deadline. 
    Keep ‘em peeled at The Valley and training ground, as there might be some Chinese visitors apparently. 
    Is this true, or was it the introduction of the extra £7m payable that they fell out over?
    Raising funds was the issue I’m hearing. Mind you, they could easily have fallen out over any number of things. Lol 
    I find it hard to believe someone as well connected or wealthy as Dalman couldn't find the funds.

    Not saying you are lying James btw. I trust what you say just my opinion.
  • Johnnysummers5
    Johnnysummers5 Posts: 8,469
    happyvalley said:
    1851, The card game happy families is introduced

    Lets all have a game now
  • CafcSCP
    CafcSCP Posts: 1,464
    CharltonByBlood said:
    JamesSeed said:
    i_b_b_o_r_g said:
    JamesSeed said:
    Dalman couldn’t get the funds together in time for the deadline. 
    Keep ‘em peeled at The Valley and training ground, as there might be some Chinese visitors apparently. 
    Is this true, or was it the introduction of the extra £7m payable that they fell out over?
    Raising funds was the issue I’m hearing. Mind you, they could easily have fallen out over any number of things. Lol 
    I find it hard to believe someone as well connected or wealthy as Dalman couldn't find the funds.

    Not saying you are lying James btw. I trust what you say just my opinion.
    Finding an additional 7m at short notice perhaps? 
    I'd be amazed if he didn't have the 33m quoted.
  • Johnnysummers5
    Johnnysummers5 Posts: 8,469
    JamesSeed said:
    Dalman apparently couldn’t get the funds together in time for the deadline I assume. 
    Keep ‘em peeled at The Valley and training ground, as there might be some Chinese visitors apparently.
    Aussies waiting for Roland to see sense I think.  
    JamesSeed said:
    Dalman apparently couldn’t get the funds together in time for the deadline I assume. 
    Keep ‘em peeled at The Valley and training ground, as there might be some Chinese visitors apparently.
    Aussies waiting for Roland to see sense I think.  

    I don't think Roland has got any sense, so the Aussies are going to be waiting a lot longer
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,843
    CafcSCP said:
    CharltonByBlood said:
    JamesSeed said:
    i_b_b_o_r_g said:
    JamesSeed said:
    Dalman couldn’t get the funds together in time for the deadline. 
    Keep ‘em peeled at The Valley and training ground, as there might be some Chinese visitors apparently. 
    Is this true, or was it the introduction of the extra £7m payable that they fell out over?
    Raising funds was the issue I’m hearing. Mind you, they could easily have fallen out over any number of things. Lol 
    I find it hard to believe someone as well connected or wealthy as Dalman couldn't find the funds.

    Not saying you are lying James btw. I trust what you say just my opinion.
    Finding an additional 7m at short notice perhaps? 
    I'd be amazed if he didn't have the 33m quoted.
    Then accept the liability for the director loans, complete the deal, and then pay them off when the other £7m is available.
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  • razil
    razil Posts: 15,041
    my dog was very interested in a dismembered seal on our local beach in Norfolk, alls I needed was a couple of adders at it, and England would be equally as mental..
  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,195
    Last call for any lifers who still haven't done the 'Will Happy Valley start making up facts soon?' joke. By my count there are still seven of you and the window is narrowing. 
  • 77Hullathome
    77Hullathome Posts: 18
    Lol....this is worse than Brexit!!
  • rananegra
    rananegra Posts: 3,689
    Roland hates his partner and kid(s) so much he's leaving the sale of Charlton to be concluded by them when he finally shuffles off in 2033. Who knows where we'll be by then, but I suspect a lower division, maybe even non league.
    I'm up for a visit to Flanders in a few months to see if we can find any of his relatives and try to talk some sense into them because sure as hell Roland isn't selling
  • Ferryman
    Ferryman Posts: 2,921
    rananegra said:
    Roland hates his partner and kid(s) so much he's leaving the sale of Charlton to be concluded by them when he finally shuffles off in 2033. Who knows where we'll be by then, but I suspect a lower division, maybe even non league.
    I'm up for a visit to Flanders in a few months to see if we can find any of his relatives and try to talk some sense into them because sure as hell Roland isn't selling
    I don't think they'll be keen to bite the hand that feeds them.
  • CafcSCP
    CafcSCP Posts: 1,464
    edited July 2019
    bobmunro said:
    CafcSCP said:
    CharltonByBlood said:
    JamesSeed said:
    i_b_b_o_r_g said:
    JamesSeed said:
    Dalman couldn’t get the funds together in time for the deadline. 
    Keep ‘em peeled at The Valley and training ground, as there might be some Chinese visitors apparently. 
    Is this true, or was it the introduction of the extra £7m payable that they fell out over?
    Raising funds was the issue I’m hearing. Mind you, they could easily have fallen out over any number of things. Lol 
    I find it hard to believe someone as well connected or wealthy as Dalman couldn't find the funds.

    Not saying you are lying James btw. I trust what you say just my opinion.
    Finding an additional 7m at short notice perhaps? 
    I'd be amazed if he didn't have the 33m quoted.
    Then accept the liability for the director loans, complete the deal, and then pay them off when the other £7m is available.
     
  • CafcSCP
    CafcSCP Posts: 1,464
    edited July 2019

    No way would you close a deal minus all of the money.
    I don't buy the fact that he couldn't raise the cash. You'd agree the deal in principle and complete when the rest is in place.
    Maybe Dalman has walked!! (to the bank to get the 7m  
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    edited July 2019
    CharltonByBlood said:
    JamesSeed said:
    i_b_b_o_r_g said:
    JamesSeed said:
    Dalman couldn’t get the funds together in time for the deadline. 
    Keep ‘em peeled at The Valley and training ground, as there might be some Chinese visitors apparently. 
    Is this true, or was it the introduction of the extra £7m payable that they fell out over?
    Raising funds was the issue I’m hearing. Mind you, they could easily have fallen out over any number of things. Lol 
    I find it hard to believe someone as well connected or wealthy as Dalman couldn't find the funds.

    Not saying you are lying James btw. I trust what you say just my opinion.
    I think that a price may have been agreed between RD and Dalman, and the funds secured by Dalman. But then RD pulled the £7m needing to be payed on top of initial agreed price out the hat, meaning at that / this point, Dalman don't have enough to proceed. Causing them to fall out
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,315
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbxgYlcNxE8
  • Solidgone
    Solidgone Posts: 10,208
    edited July 2019
    The £7m is RD’s debt. Why would you want to pay that off for him when he has the money to clear it. 
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  • happyvalley
    happyvalley Posts: 8,996
    1852, Kings Cross Station opened.
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    Solidgone said:
    The £7m is RD’s debt. Why would you want to pay that off for him when he has the money to clear it. 
    I'm not saying it's right, just speculating at the current state of affairs
  • grumpyaddick
    grumpyaddick Posts: 6,596
    I'm guessing this isn't the right moment for a highly amusing fish pun. 
  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,195
    happyvalley said:
    1852, Kings Cross Station opened.
    So how did students get to Hogwarts before that?
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    Solidgone said:
    The £7m is RD’s debt. Why would you want to pay that off for him when he has the money to clear it. 
    Does RD want it paid off as any deals agreed involve leaving some of the debt to him? If the club goes into administration in future and the director loans are still there they’d be paid back ahead of him? Is that right?
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    i_b_b_o_r_g said:
    CharltonByBlood said:
    JamesSeed said:
    i_b_b_o_r_g said:
    JamesSeed said:
    Dalman couldn’t get the funds together in time for the deadline. 
    Keep ‘em peeled at The Valley and training ground, as there might be some Chinese visitors apparently. 
    Is this true, or was it the introduction of the extra £7m payable that they fell out over?
    Raising funds was the issue I’m hearing. Mind you, they could easily have fallen out over any number of things. Lol 
    I find it hard to believe someone as well connected or wealthy as Dalman couldn't find the funds.

    Not saying you are lying James btw. I trust what you say just my opinion.
    I think that a price may have been agreed between RD and Dalman, and the funds secured by Dalman. But then RD pulled the £7m needing to be payed on top of initial agreed price out the hat, meaning at that / this point, Dalman don't have enough to proceed. Causing them to fall out
    Which happened to the Aussies too. 
  • SuedeAdidas
    SuedeAdidas Posts: 7,741
    grumpyaddick said:
    I'm guessing this isn't the right moment for a highly amusing fish pun. 
    How amusing are we talking?
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Lickspittle should have gone to the fans forum, his deal negotiation is demonstrably crap.
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,843
    edited July 2019
    Scoham said:
    Solidgone said:
    The £7m is RD’s debt. Why would you want to pay that off for him when he has the money to clear it. 
    Does RD want it paid off as any deals agreed involve leaving some of the debt to him? If the club goes into administration in future and the director loans are still there they’d be paid back ahead of him? Is that right?
    If the existing charges are cleared then two shits would have a first charge for any debts he leaves with the new owners, assuming the debt was secured on the assets.

    But I thought the £33m or £40m with the loans paid was leaving clean title. He can’t expect £33m and the outstanding debt to Staprix (c£68m I believe) staying with the club. That values the deal at £100m which is clearly lunacy.
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,334
    It's a bit like buying a house.  

    First, you choose the house you're going to buy.  Then, you negotiate a price with the vendor.  Then, the vendor turns out to be demonstrably bonkers.  So, you go to the Winchester, have a pint and wait for it all to blow over.  
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