Summer 2019 Transfer Rumours (ed. Pg 296 - Start of Deadline Day)

DOUCHER said:

A very different level admittedly but when I was managing youth and senior teams, at this time of the year, if you had managed to say goodbye to a lot of the ‘dead wood’ in your squad and were in a lean position able to add half a team, you were in a very good position. That’s how o see us - the quality is about to be added and I wouldn’t be surprised if taylor’s contract isn’t improved once all that is done - to give him some sort of parity as I see him as the talisman of this squad 

Agree in some circumstances, but for us we've lost three of our best players in Aribo, Cullen and Bielek. I can't personally see how we're replacing them with equal or more quality. In bowyer and Gallan we trust, but there's only so much that can be done.

Stu_of_Kunming said:

DOUCHER said:

A very different level admittedly but when I was managing youth and senior teams, at this time of the year, if you had managed to say goodbye to a lot of the ‘dead wood’ in your squad and were in a lean position able to add half a team, you were in a very good position. That’s how o see us - the quality is about to be added and I wouldn’t be surprised if taylor’s contract isn’t improved once all that is done - to give him some sort of parity as I see him as the talisman of this squad 

We lost some of our best players in Bauer, Aribo, Cullen and Bielek, hardly deadwood.

Vetokele, Reeves, Marshall, Parker, Fosu, a couple of the youngsters that didn't make the grade, there was also a lot of Deadwood let's be honest

ForeverAddickted said:

So from the 2011/12 team we only had the below who had previous Championship experience

Michael Morrison | Leon Cort | Andy Hughes | Johnnie Jackson
Danny Haynes | Bradley Wright-Phillips | Yann Kermorgant

From the current squad:

Jason Pearce | Chris Solly | Ben Purrington | Naby Sarr
Darren Pratley | Jake Forster-Caskey

So there is basically one player difference in terms of that experience, now that team in 2012/13 finished 9th with the signings of Kerkar | Gower | Fuller | Wilson | Dervite

Again the two in bold the only two signings that had previous Championship experience

Or to view it another way Solly isn't the player he was in the championship, he wasn't even the player he was when we were still in the championship.  Pearce has lost his place and been sold by ever championship club he has played for and has just finished his 4th consecutive season in league 1.  Ben Purrington couldn't get in a poor Rotherham team last season. Naby had a mare in the championship last time he played in it. Pratley dropped down a league because he is getting on and JFC was let go by Brighton and signed for a middle table league 1 side.

Now their championship experience isn't much of a ringing endorsement. 

BUT saying all that Solly, Pearce and Pratley are all men you would "you would want in the trenches" with you and will be valuable on pitch and dressing room NCOs for Bowyer.  Every club needs players like this. I would worry if all 3 were on the pitch at the same time for to long throughout the season though.  

As said already on this thread sometimes a player, manager, system, club etc just click and I get the feeling that is Purrington with us.  Naby is obviously 3 years older, wiser, happier and more confident.  Reading between the lines on JFCs new contract the talent has never been in question, other things have.  I expect a much improved player to the one in his Brighton days. 

East Kent Addick said:

ForeverAddickted said:

So from the 2011/12 team we only had the below who had previous Championship experience

Michael Morrison | Leon Cort | Andy Hughes | Johnnie Jackson
Danny Haynes | Bradley Wright-Phillips | Yann Kermorgant

From the current squad:

Jason Pearce | Chris Solly | Ben Purrington | Naby Sarr
Darren Pratley | Jake Forster-Caskey

So there is basically one player difference in terms of that experience, now that team in 2012/13 finished 9th with the signings of Kerkar | Gower | Fuller | Wilson | Dervite

Again the two in bold the only two signings that had previous Championship experience

To say that Sarr has championship experience is stretching it somewhat - can't have played more than half a dozen games at that level before being sent back to France on loan. Also whilst the Chris Powell team ended up 9th it was a real struggle for much of the season and a good run at the end of the season flattered to deceive as the following season proved. Worth also noting that our 20 goal striker - BWP did not adapt well to championship despite having played there before.

Could say the same about David Button who only played  a handful of loan games at this level prior to joining us

sam3110 said:

Stu_of_Kunming said:

DOUCHER said:

A very different level admittedly but when I was managing youth and senior teams, at this time of the year, if you had managed to say goodbye to a lot of the ‘dead wood’ in your squad and were in a lean position able to add half a team, you were in a very good position. That’s how o see us - the quality is about to be added and I wouldn’t be surprised if taylor’s contract isn’t improved once all that is done - to give him some sort of parity as I see him as the talisman of this squad 

We lost some of our best players in Bauer, Aribo, Cullen and Bielek, hardly deadwood.

Vetokele, Reeves, Marshall, Parker, Fosu, a couple of the youngsters that didn't make the grade, there was also a lot of Deadwood let's be honest

Yah, clearly we've cleared a lot of deadwook off the books but the points stands that we've lost - and not yet replaced - some of our best players, to claim it's a 'very good position' is utter madness.

Redhenry said:

Stu_of_Kunming said:

Redhenry said:

Stu_of_Kunming said:

Redhenry said:

Stu_of_Kunming said:

Which position would you say is at Championship standard?

We've only got half a team atm. Just thought your comment was a tad harsh. Time will tell, I'm not crying into my beer yet....

That's why I said currently.

bit of a pointless comment..

Doesnt the transfer window close is just over 3 weeks? Having half a team at this stage is a disaster.

Standard whilst RD has been in charge, not ideal but look what happened last season. Not panicking yet....:)

Window closes a lot earlier this year, so quite a different scenario

Deadwood is such a horrible term to use for anyone, let alone players who were playing members of a promotion squad and one of whom played at Wembley.

Not good enough, yeah, fair enough but how soon we discard our heroes.

The squad currently is nowhere near strong enough or deep enough.

We'll have to see how it looks on 8 August but so far, not enough bodies or experience.

Meanwhile Millwall sign a championship experienced Icelandic international.

Stu_of_Kunming said:

Redhenry said:

Stu_of_Kunming said:

Redhenry said:

Stu_of_Kunming said:

Redhenry said:

Stu_of_Kunming said:

Which position would you say is at Championship standard?

We've only got half a team atm. Just thought your comment was a tad harsh. Time will tell, I'm not crying into my beer yet....

That's why I said currently.

bit of a pointless comment..

Doesnt the transfer window close is just over 3 weeks? Having half a team at this stage is a disaster.

Standard whilst RD has been in charge, not ideal but look what happened last season. Not panicking yet....:)

Window closes a lot earlier this year, so quite a different scenario

I think the loan signings will define our season.

Redhenry said:

Stu_of_Kunming said:

Redhenry said:

Stu_of_Kunming said:

Redhenry said:

Stu_of_Kunming said:

Redhenry said:

Stu_of_Kunming said:

Which position would you say is at Championship standard?

We've only got half a team atm. Just thought your comment was a tad harsh. Time will tell, I'm not crying into my beer yet....

That's why I said currently.

bit of a pointless comment..

Doesnt the transfer window close is just over 3 weeks? Having half a team at this stage is a disaster.

Standard whilst RD has been in charge, not ideal but look what happened last season. Not panicking yet....:)

Window closes a lot earlier this year, so quite a different scenario

I think the loan signings will define our season.

'I reckon we'll get 3 more first teamers in, leaving us horrificly short.

ShootersHillGuru said:

Stu_of_Kunming said:

Redhenry said:

Stu_of_Kunming said:

Redhenry said:

Stu_of_Kunming said:

Redhenry said:

Stu_of_Kunming said:

Redhenry said:

Stu_of_Kunming said:

Which position would you say is at Championship standard?

We've only got half a team atm. Just thought your comment was a tad harsh. Time will tell, I'm not crying into my beer yet....

That's why I said currently.

bit of a pointless comment..

Doesnt the transfer window close is just over 3 weeks? Having half a team at this stage is a disaster.

Standard whilst RD has been in charge, not ideal but look what happened last season. Not panicking yet....:)

Window closes a lot earlier this year, so quite a different scenario

I think the loan signings will define our season.

'I reckon we'll get 3 more first teamers in, leaving us horrificly short.

I think we’ll get more than that but they need to be of the right quality. Bodies in for the sake of bodies will doom us. 

I hope you're right, I just don't see RD making that sort of financial commitment to a club he cares nothing for.

I realise this info is from Transfer Markt website but if you look at our first team squad = 17 players with a value of £4.19 million as compared to Blackburn Rovers with a squad = 26 players and value of £27.14 million you can see what we could well be up against.

For interest Millwall have = 20 players valued at £15.89 million

ShootersHillGuru said:

I realise this info is from Transfer Markt website but if you look at our first team squad = 17 players with a value of £4.19 million as compared to Blackburn Rovers with a squad = 26 players and value of £27.14 million you can see what we could well be up against.

For interest Millwall have = 20 players valued at £15.89 million

We're at least 6 players short.

Redhenry said:

blackpool72 said:

Redhenry said:

Stu_of_Kunming said:

Redhenry said:

Stu_of_Kunming said:

Redhenry said:

Stu_of_Kunming said:

Redhenry said:

Stu_of_Kunming said:

Which position would you say is at Championship standard?

We've only got half a team atm. Just thought your comment was a tad harsh. Time will tell, I'm not crying into my beer yet....

That's why I said currently.

bit of a pointless comment..

Doesnt the transfer window close is just over 3 weeks? Having half a team at this stage is a disaster.

Standard whilst RD has been in charge, not ideal but look what happened last season. Not panicking yet....:)

Window closes a lot earlier this year, so quite a different scenario

I think the loan signings will define our season.

Heard any whispers mate ?

Can't really answer that atm

Interpreting that as we are working on some and are fairly close but you can’t say in case the deal collapses.

Thanks Redhenry!

Sage said:

Redhenry said:

blackpool72 said:

Redhenry said:

Stu_of_Kunming said:

Redhenry said:

Stu_of_Kunming said:

Redhenry said:

Stu_of_Kunming said:

Redhenry said:

Stu_of_Kunming said:

Which position would you say is at Championship standard?

We've only got half a team atm. Just thought your comment was a tad harsh. Time will tell, I'm not crying into my beer yet....

That's why I said currently.

bit of a pointless comment..

Doesnt the transfer window close is just over 3 weeks? Having half a team at this stage is a disaster.

Standard whilst RD has been in charge, not ideal but look what happened last season. Not panicking yet....:)

Window closes a lot earlier this year, so quite a different scenario

I think the loan signings will define our season.

Heard any whispers mate ?

Can't really answer that atm

Interpreting that as we are working on some and are fairly close but you can’t say in case the deal collapses.

Thanks Redhenry!

If we're not working on anything then we're proper effed! Just dont see us signing anyone on the 5k a week we're apparently offering

All this talk about players value etc.is crap,look at the best paid players in the premier league,ozil,sanchez,pogba,total waste of money,Sunderland signed Will Grigg,waste of money,Cattermole on 30000 + per week,who went up.Get players in who want to play,players with a a point to prove,academy players(Lapslie,Morgan) who love the club.This is the Charlton way whoever owns the club.