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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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Like Jon Snow and Manuel. Prague knows nothing0
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Actually, he said he had "meltdown" news.cafc1263 said:Why are we waiting for Prague , he told everyone that a deal was off so may be he has no more news to give yet. So may be everyone should give people a break on here or they won’t post what they hear anymore .
We all want the same thing a Rat free club .
Then he went mute.1 -
So do you know everything about his financial clout..? Ultimately he ain't bought the Club yet, same as the all the other 'serious' buyers we've supposedly had.Airman Brown said:
You think Dalman, for example, the chairman of Cardiff City, is unaware of or scared off by the operating costs of running a Championship club?joeaddick said:
Yet so many comments on here just make it all about RD's asking price...It's going to cost a truly 'serious' buyer some 'serious' cash...Another irony is the running costs comments on here. Are they supposed to scare RD off..? Maybe they're scaring buyers off as well...Scoham said:
So you’re saying all these buyers that have been interested have no idea how much it takes to fund a Championship club?joeaddick said:
That's what he's led everybody to believe...The type of buyer that wants a real go at getting to the PL will need serious money, and not just at the initial 'buying the Club' stage.Scoham said:
He’s been trying to sell for over two years. The Aussies were first linked with us in April 2017.joeaddick said:
That works both ways, maybe the right owner hasn't turned up yet..?Scoham said:I think there’s serious interest and has been for a while from various potential owners. The issue is Roland hasn’t seriously been interested in selling for a deal any potential owner can agree with.
If buyers keeps walking away or just continue to wait doesn’t that tell you the seller is the problem?
Somehow they’ve all missed the fact that the majority of Championship clubs lose tens of millions every season?0 -
It is very close to where I live is Sandhurst School. It is a well known and terribly sad part of local history, along with the train crash in 1967, which itself followed a terrible train crash in Lewisham in 1957.5
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Actually, I've heard something too. This news is potentially earth shattering.
But I cant tell you as I'm not sure you could all cope.
So I will keep it to myself.12 -
The truth, you can't handle the truth.5
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Off_it said:Actually, I've heard something too. This news is potentially earth shattering.
But I cant tell you as I'm not sure you could all cope.
So I will keep it to myself.
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And I believe some of the eye-witness accounts state that the pilot waved at the kids as he flew over, a split second before dropping the bomb. The bastard.happyvalley said:1943, a bomb kills 38 children & 6 teachers when it lands on Sandhurst Road School in Catford.
Edit: I now see this has already been posted. Which at least gives me some comfort that i'm not losing my mind!1 -
The FTSE 100 and the FTSE250 comprise most of the biggest, most successful companies that have ever existed in the UK. Do you know how many of them are owned by one person outright who can afford to do so alone, as opposed to having several owners? (I'll give you a clue: it's not very many).MartinCAFC said:Personally I don't want a consortium at the club Aussies or not, consortiums are pulled together because one person outright can't afford to do the deal themself or isn't willing to even if they do have the money.
The other problem with consortiums as is being reported are investors who then want out of the consortium what happens then? Would they retain all funds from the sale of a player to cover there costs like RD is doing? And also how would decisions be carried out if nobody had outright control? Sometimes you can have too many decision makers.
I so wanted to LOL James Seed's earlier post when he said another investor has walked away but I didn't out of respect because he only passed on what he was told even if I did laugh when reading his post. It just confirmed that a consortium is not for me Aussies or not, would rather an individual like Dalman buying us.
Spreading the cost among a wide ownership base is demonstrably the best means of establishing stability. Some companies are able to run well with a single, wealthy owner in charge. But there's nothing about Charlton Athletic this century that suggests that is likely to be the case here.1 -
That’s irrelevant, the point is he’s been chairman of a Championship club for years so will be fully aware tens of millions a season is needed, and hundreds of millions if it’s a long term thing.joeaddick said:
So do you know everything about his financial clout..? Ultimately he ain't bought the Club yet, same as the all the other 'serious' buyers we've supposedly had.Airman Brown said:
You think Dalman, for example, the chairman of Cardiff City, is unaware of or scared off by the operating costs of running a Championship club?joeaddick said:
Yet so many comments on here just make it all about RD's asking price...It's going to cost a truly 'serious' buyer some 'serious' cash...Another irony is the running costs comments on here. Are they supposed to scare RD off..? Maybe they're scaring buyers off as well...Scoham said:
So you’re saying all these buyers that have been interested have no idea how much it takes to fund a Championship club?joeaddick said:
That's what he's led everybody to believe...The type of buyer that wants a real go at getting to the PL will need serious money, and not just at the initial 'buying the Club' stage.Scoham said:
He’s been trying to sell for over two years. The Aussies were first linked with us in April 2017.joeaddick said:
That works both ways, maybe the right owner hasn't turned up yet..?Scoham said:I think there’s serious interest and has been for a while from various potential owners. The issue is Roland hasn’t seriously been interested in selling for a deal any potential owner can agree with.
If buyers keeps walking away or just continue to wait doesn’t that tell you the seller is the problem?
Somehow they’ve all missed the fact that the majority of Championship clubs lose tens of millions every season?1 - Sponsored links:
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We are just teasing him mate.cafc1263 said:Why are we waiting for Prague , he told everyone that a deal was off so may be he has no more news to give yet. So may be everyone should give people a break on here or they won’t post what they hear anymore .
We all want the same thing a Rat free club .
Yes we know he said it was off but he was going to see if he could find out more. I am sure he can take the teasing.
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He is probably in his own meltdown.Off_it said:
Actually, he said he had "meltdown" news.cafc1263 said:Why are we waiting for Prague , he told everyone that a deal was off so may be he has no more news to give yet. So may be everyone should give people a break on here or they won’t post what they hear anymore .
We all want the same thing a Rat free club .
Then he went mute.
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1944, a V-2 rocket kills 168 people when it hits the New Cross branch of Woolworth's.0
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It's none. The clue is the fact that their shares are traded at the Stock Exchange.Chizz said:
The FTSE 100 and the FTSE250 comprise most of the biggest, most successful companies that have ever existed in the UK. Do you know how many of them are owned by one person outright who can afford to do so alone, as opposed to having several owners? (I'll give you a clue: it's not very many).MartinCAFC said:Personally I don't want a consortium at the club Aussies or not, consortiums are pulled together because one person outright can't afford to do the deal themself or isn't willing to even if they do have the money.
The other problem with consortiums as is being reported are investors who then want out of the consortium what happens then? Would they retain all funds from the sale of a player to cover there costs like RD is doing? And also how would decisions be carried out if nobody had outright control? Sometimes you can have too many decision makers.
I so wanted to LOL James Seed's earlier post when he said another investor has walked away but I didn't out of respect because he only passed on what he was told even if I did laugh when reading his post. It just confirmed that a consortium is not for me Aussies or not, would rather an individual like Dalman buying us.
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Daddy dearest missed the 1957 train on the way back home to Eltham during National Service. And there by the grace of God and/or circumstance go i...seth plum said:It is very close to where I live is Sandhurst School. It is a well known and terribly sad part of local history, along with the train crash in 1967, which itself followed a terrible train crash in Lewisham in 1957.
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Never knew that, but glad I do now. CheersSoundAsa£ said:
20th of January 1943..... 29 year old Hauptmann Heinz Schumann was the name of the pilot flying a Focke-Wulf armed with a single 500 lb bomb.......some planes came back and machine gunned the playground. Initially he had made a reconnaissance pass and had waved at the children who were on their lunch break, so it was likely he knew full well what the target was.happyvalley said:1943, a bomb kills 38 children & 6 teachers when it lands on Sandhurst Road School in Catford.
He was killed in action 10 months later.....legend has it that he was shot down by his own colleagues who were disgusted at his actions, though this has never been verified.
The raid was requested as a revenge attack by none other than Hitler himself, following several similar ‘terror style’ raids on Berlin a short while earlier.
7000 people attended a funeral in Hither Green Cemetery (Verdant Lane), where 31 children and 1 teacher were buried in a mass grave.
I apologise for taking the thread way off subject.1 -
I'm sure he's aware of the tens of millions a season that's needed, and the hundreds of millions if it’s a long term thing, but he ain't got his feet under the table, so maybe all that's irrelevant...Scoham said:
That’s irrelevant, the point is he’s been chairman of a Championship club for years so will be fully aware tens of millions a season is needed, and hundreds of millions if it’s a long term thing.joeaddick said:
So do you know everything about his financial clout..? Ultimately he ain't bought the Club yet, same as the all the other 'serious' buyers we've supposedly had.Airman Brown said:
You think Dalman, for example, the chairman of Cardiff City, is unaware of or scared off by the operating costs of running a Championship club?joeaddick said:
Yet so many comments on here just make it all about RD's asking price...It's going to cost a truly 'serious' buyer some 'serious' cash...Another irony is the running costs comments on here. Are they supposed to scare RD off..? Maybe they're scaring buyers off as well...Scoham said:
So you’re saying all these buyers that have been interested have no idea how much it takes to fund a Championship club?joeaddick said:
That's what he's led everybody to believe...The type of buyer that wants a real go at getting to the PL will need serious money, and not just at the initial 'buying the Club' stage.Scoham said:
He’s been trying to sell for over two years. The Aussies were first linked with us in April 2017.joeaddick said:
That works both ways, maybe the right owner hasn't turned up yet..?Scoham said:I think there’s serious interest and has been for a while from various potential owners. The issue is Roland hasn’t seriously been interested in selling for a deal any potential owner can agree with.
If buyers keeps walking away or just continue to wait doesn’t that tell you the seller is the problem?
Somehow they’ve all missed the fact that the majority of Championship clubs lose tens of millions every season?
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Might have been with my mum, she has always said she missed the train due to working late. I’m not so sure now.soapy_jones said:
Daddy dearest missed the 1957 train on the way back home to Eltham during National Service. And there by the grace of God and/or circumstance go i...seth plum said:It is very close to where I live is Sandhurst School. It is a well known and terribly sad part of local history, along with the train crash in 1967, which itself followed a terrible train crash in Lewisham in 1957.4 -
I went therehappyvalley said:1943, a bomb kills 38 children & 6 teachers when it lands on Sandhurst Road School in Catford.0 - Sponsored links:
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My dad's girlfriend was killed in that attack. She is buried in Dover in a cemetery off Old Charlton Road.happyvalley said:1944, a V-2 rocket kills 168 people when it hits the New Cross branch of Woolworth's.
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Oy oycharltonkeston said:
Might have been with my mum, she has always said she missed the train due to working late. I’m not so sure now.soapy_jones said:
Daddy dearest missed the 1957 train on the way back home to Eltham during National Service. And there by the grace of God and/or circumstance go i...seth plum said:It is very close to where I live is Sandhurst School. It is a well known and terribly sad part of local history, along with the train crash in 1967, which itself followed a terrible train crash in Lewisham in 1957.
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And therein lies the root of your problem on here.JamesSeed said:
Not sure why that gets any lols?JamesSeed said:Heard from non GM contact:
‘Sounds like the Aussies WILL NOT be buying the club this week’.
Something to do with needing an extra investor (having just lost a Chinese one) to cover this extra historic debt.
...’so it’s over to the Europeans and Dalman’.
I’m imagining investors are limiting their exposure, so they’ve set a cap. So when the asking price goes up, for whatever reason, extra investors are required. For some reason, they don’t seem to be queueing up to invest in Charlton at the moment. Agents are laughing at Bowyer, and investors are laughing at Roland1 -
Meh Monday.1
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It was at St Johns on a cold winters evening in a thick 1950’s pea souper fog.soapy_jones said:
Daddy dearest missed the 1957 train on the way back home to Eltham during National Service. And there by the grace of God and/or circumstance go i...seth plum said:It is very close to where I live is Sandhurst School. It is a well known and terribly sad part of local history, along with the train crash in 1967, which itself followed a terrible train crash in Lewisham in 1957.
It came over on the news that the crash had taken place....Mum tuned into the radio and we all listened in to the grim and somewhat conflicting news reports.
Of course tens of thousands of rail passengers were held up and had to find a way home.
Like thousands of other families, we didn’t know if their family members train was involved, we didn’t have a phone until a few years later, so no way dad could have contacted us.
He walked home from London Bridge after getting off a train and walking back there along the tracks (buses were full), and arrived home, thank god, around 11.00 o’clock for his dinner!
I was only 9 and had long since gone to bed and remember the subdued atmosphere throughout the house and how worried we all were.
Once again, apologies for disrupting the thread but I just couldn’t resist responding to a bit of old local history.15 -
Strong rumour going around that @PragueAddick is stuck on a broken down train in Leicestershire with a well known comedian.
@Airman Brown @JamesSeed @DOUCHER any of you ITKs also picked up that Prague has melted in Melton Mowbray on Meltdown Monday with Milton Jones?
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Stilton Smeg0
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So, the European deal is not moving forward. Discussions have been halted.
That is the only verifiable fact that I have.
As for my comment last week which seems to have wound up a certain accountant, that comment was
Had a further message, which I had better leave until Monday to get further verified, because it is meltdown material.
Well it has not been verified. The buyer and the intermediary have not spoken in detail since the meeting, and the intermediary is now on holiday with his wife who has recently been very ill, and they need the break. There is also a second British adviser involved who was the source of the comment that was very concerning last week but it now seems that neither he nor the intermediary were actually in the meeting between the buyer and RD's people. Until the intermediary speaks with the buyer at length, he's not able to tell me (assuming he wants to) what exactly was the reason for the breakdown. It also occurred to me that they might on reflection not be open about the reason in case they infringe an NDA.
But patently this is not happening before the transfer window. Apart from anything else there is no Heads of Agreement reached so they can't go to the EFL.
Massively pissed off all round.35 -
As you were.0
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Thanks for the update anyway, @PragueAddick0
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