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January 2020 transfer rumours thread (Deadline Day starts Page 283)

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  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,801
    KiwiValley said:
    It is a fact that people speculate on what facts are not merely speculation but fact. And it is a fact that people speculate on facts that are not in fact facts but merely speculation. The distinction between which facts are facts and which speculation is speculation comes down to which are facts and which are speculation. 
    KiwiValley an early leader in the Donald Rumsfeld Unknown Unknowns Stakes.
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,801
    Chunes said:
    AddicksAddict said:
    Chunes said:
    Let's take a big step back from speculation  and look at the facts we do have. 

    From Roland's EFL statement:

    "Part of the plan for ESI is to strengthen the team in January, using these weeks in December to put the building blocks in place for that..."

    And this from Lee Bowyer:

    "They want to stabilise us to stay in the league. There will be some help in Jan. That’s what we need to do as a football club. We need to become an established championship side and then you can build on that”

    So there are the facts.

    There will be money available if Bow and Gallen want to spend it. Bodies will come in. And we are aiming to stabilise, not go mad with marquee signings.

    There has been no indication from anywhere that these guys are going to spend megabucks. That's been pure CL speculation based on the owner's family. I see nothing so far to suggest that's true. 
    That those things were said is fact but what's contained in those statements is not necessarily fact, it could just as likely be a smokescreen for what's actually going on behind the scenes.
    So what we have is facts and speculation. It's a fact that he said that but what you're saying is a speculation, and perhaps would be a little biased in hoping that these owners are moneybags after all. 

    We will see I guess. I don't doubt there might be an eventual push for the Premier League but things take time. 
    Of course what I've said is speculation - the use of the word 'could' is a give away.  But it's also speculation that what was said in those quotes are facts.  If you believe everything you read or hear, how would you like to buy this Brooklyn Bridge I've got going cheap?
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,359
    I give up.
  • supaclive
    supaclive Posts: 6,515
    golfaddick said:
    BR7_addick said:

    Not transfer targets NOW. Maybe they were 2 months ago, but hopefully we have better targets to go for 

    Correct.   Our budget and expectations have simply got much bigger since the takeover.

    Purely speculation... albeit Cawley basically says the same, without saying the same, above....! :-)

  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,212
    FYI, not one person on here mentioned Green when we were discussing rumours before he signed, so all names mentioned this week in the run up to the next signing, do not take seriously.
  • cafc_se7
    cafc_se7 Posts: 2,277
    Mowatt and Woodrow double swoop would be so so decent 
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    cafc_se7 said:
    Mowatt and Woodrow double swoop would be so so decent 
    Sounds like the two old blokes off Trading Places
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,456
    edited January 2020
    I remember when we played Wigan; Bowyer said that he wanted to sign Kieffer Moore and Jamal Lowe from Barnsley / Portsmouth respectfully in the summer but couldnt because of funds

    If we went after a Defender; Dunkley would be a good call from them
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,368
    edited January 2020
    Glad Rich has dismissed those links, would have been very underwhelming signings. I don't think he has dismissed the Ronan Curtis link, someone has asked him as well 
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,736
    edited January 2020
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  • PaddyP17
    PaddyP17 Posts: 13,037
    There's a recall clause in Eoin Doyle's contract. This isn't based in anything, but I'd love to know if he'd be an option, should he be recalled.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,456
    PaddyP17 said:
    There's a recall clause in Eoin Doyle's contract. This isn't based in anything, but I'd love to know if he'd be an option, should he be recalled.
    Has played for both Bradford and Swindon this season so there are two options for him
  • Vincenzo
    Vincenzo Posts: 2,911
    Braziliance said:
    Glad Rich has dismissed those links, would have been very underwhelming signings. I don't think he has dismissed the Ronan Curtis link, someone has asked him as well 
    Probably pre-ESI options.
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,368
    PaddyP17 said:
    There's a recall clause in Eoin Doyle's contract. This isn't based in anything, but I'd love to know if he'd be an option, should he be recalled.
    I was thinking Doyle, had a look at the top scorers the other day and he has something like 22/23, goal scored just over 90 minutes or so. Insane return regardless of it being league 2. Only issue is I don't think he's eligible for another club this season? 

    Another player I wonder if Gallen and Bowyer might have a pop for is Godden, just scored back to back hatricks, when we played him I thought he was a proper versatile forward
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Teams still in the cup might get attractive draws tonight which might affect thinking.
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,948
    If reports are correct that we are looking to bring in another forward/striker on loan then it does mean we would need a permanent CM to replace Kayal to be just be level on numbers with where we started the season.
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,487
    The mania and gloom on here if we haven't signed anybody by Thursday morning will be off the scale.
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,278
    cfgs said:
    The mania and gloom on here if we haven't signed anybody by Thursday morning will be off the scale.
    Unfortunately so, even though we have until midday Friday to get the deal done so they can be part of the squad on Saturday. Let’s hope people are a little more patient now things have been confirmed and that they’re working hard in getting the right players in, players who can improve us.

    There will be signings. Before the takeover and all the injuries and players went back to their clubs, Jackson and Marshall said at Bromley Addicks that we are going to need help and reinforcements in January and that doesn’t change. More important that we do now. And I am 100% confident we will get that help.

    It’s only 6th January, we need to understand things take time. Nonetheless, I am hoping for two additions before this time next week.
  • Rob
    Rob Posts: 11,807
    BR7_addick said:
    FYI, not one person on here mentioned Green when we were discussing rumours before he signed, so all names mentioned this week in the run up to the next signing, do not take seriously.
    Bang on
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    seth plum said:
    Teams still in the cup might get attractive draws tonight which might affect thinking.
    As we are out, every draw will seem attractive for other clubs.

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  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    I keep reading about Doyle - he is a 31year (32 in March) old journeyman who is league 1 at best. I’d like to think we can do a bit better than him now. Same goes for Godden as well. 
  • MarkyE83
    MarkyE83 Posts: 210
    Southall has liked a tweet about Toney and Maddison. Could be nothing, could be everything!
  • PaddyP17
    PaddyP17 Posts: 13,037
    ForeverAddickted said:
    PaddyP17 said:
    There's a recall clause in Eoin Doyle's contract. This isn't based in anything, but I'd love to know if he'd be an option, should he be recalled.
    Has played for both Bradford and Swindon this season so there are two options for him
    Yeah that rules us - and any other club - out then. Fair enough.
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,487
    MarkyE83 said:
    Southall has liked a tweet about Toney and Maddison. Could be nothing, could be everything!
    He is mates with Posh's owner and is going for a drink with him if you read the tweets.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    PaddyP17 said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    PaddyP17 said:
    There's a recall clause in Eoin Doyle's contract. This isn't based in anything, but I'd love to know if he'd be an option, should he be recalled.
    Has played for both Bradford and Swindon this season so there are two options for him
    Yeah that rules us - and any other club - out then. Fair enough.
    He was absolutely pony for Bradford in league 1 last season. 
  • CAFCsayer
    CAFCsayer Posts: 10,231
    cfgs said:
    MarkyE83 said:
    Southall has liked a tweet about Toney and Maddison. Could be nothing, could be everything!
    He is mates with Posh's owner and is going for a drink with him if you read the tweets.

  • Addictedoldgit
    Addictedoldgit Posts: 1,827
    So Peterborough have said publicly they want  £12 or £15 million for Toney ?

    Is it the case his contract runs out this June? 
    If we could get him for say £8 million max, I wonder if MS would have the funds and be tempted ?
  • CafcWest
    CafcWest Posts: 6,172
    cfgs said:
    MarkyE83 said:
    Southall has liked a tweet about Toney and Maddison. Could be nothing, could be everything!
    He is mates with Posh's owner and is going for a drink with him if you read the tweets.
    Hopefully, as an ex-agent, he is probably mates with lots of club chairmen and managers and players - could be useful for loans or getting players in.

  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,386
    Addictedoldgit said:
    So Peterborough have said publicly they want  £12 or £15 million for Toney ?

    Is it the case his contract runs out this June? 
    If we could get him for say £8 million max, I wonder if MS would have the funds and be tempted ?
    He signed a long term contract with Posh in 2018, so likely has a deal until at least 2021.

    https://www.theposh.com/news/2018/august/posh-swoop-for-toney/
  • flyingkiwiDK
    flyingkiwiDK Posts: 5,723
    edited January 2020
    Picked this up from his Wiki page...

    ”In November 2014, Toney was close to a transfer to Wolverhampton Wanderers, which collapsed due to an undisclosed medical issue.”

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