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ESI 1 v ESI 2 - Initial Hearing 01-02/09/2020, Court of Appeal 17/09/2020 (p127)

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  • LawrieAbrahams
    LawrieAbrahams Posts: 3,779
    thickandthin63 said:
    All this talk about letters,contracts etc.is anyone actually producing them in court.
    Would have been produced to the Judge before the hearing.
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Lex Dominus agreement is to buy ESI for £1.
    Has that been said?
  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,046
    Ironic that Chaisty says that Mihail doesn't say much at all in his 17 page submission...having been blathering on for the last hour or so!
  • WestCountryAddick
    WestCountryAddick Posts: 2,545
    Valley27000 said:
    PE has put money into the club Nimer did not.Say PE wins then sells too TS everyone hapoy?.
    Ultimately yes, but it would be hard to accept that Elliott and Farnell get paid for their shenanigans.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,304
    Chaisty says that Mihail has submitted an 18-page statement. "When you strip is away, it doesn't say a great deal."
  • Jints
    Jints Posts: 3,490
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Jints said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    mattinfinland said:
    Can LK use the football club, fans ... the season on a whole as part of a defence?

    EG its not just between Elliot and Nimer, the whole club is at stake?
    It's legally nothing to do with football ffs. 
    Disagree. ESI 1 can argue that delay diminishes the asset because of the imminent start of the season and potentially removes the chance of a sale. Therefore an interim injunction should not be awarded.
    But that could be settle with damages at a later point.  

    My point was it doesn't matter legally, if its a football club, a house or a sweet shop.  It's either been sold, has a contract of exclusiveity or it hasn't. 
    That's not what this hearing is about (at least I don't think it is). Breach of contract is normally remedied by damages. ESI 2 have to show that is not an adequate remedy should they be right about the contract and that an injunction is therefore necessary. 
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,916
    Mahail sounds like a stooge going by some of these posts. 
  • Jodaius
    Jodaius Posts: 562
    WestCountryAddick said:
    KentishAddick said:
    This entire case is to decide who gets TS's money. Makes me sick.

    Maybe this is why Thomas is in town, because he thinks that either way, he can still buy the club, this hearing only decides where the money goes perhaps?
    No, this hearing is to decide whether or not there should be another hearing to decide where the money goes. That hearing might not happen until November, by which time TS might have come to his senses!
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,763
    How long is this bloke allowed to chat for while effectively making the same three or four points repeatedly? Bloody hell...
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,304
    edited September 2020
    Redrobo said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Lex Dominus agreement is to buy ESI for £1.
    Has that been said?
    Its a quote from Airman, everything I'm putting in italics is a quote from other people

    Rather than copying a tweet that some may not be able to read
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  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,167
    I don't know what some of you were expecting. That Elliott's lawyer would just stumble over his words and hold up blank pieces of paper? That he'd be a face taped onto a mop? It doesn't matter what this guy says, if our lawyer can show that the deal was never agreed, with evidence, then hopefully that's what the judge will focus on.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    Valley27000 said:
    PE has put money into the club Nimer did not.Say PE wins then sells too TS everyone hapoy?.
    Yes, but he doesn't win today - he wins in a few months! TS could walk away. We can't make any signings ........
  • Rossman92
    Rossman92 Posts: 3,650
    Jesus don't know why I bother with Twitter. Everyone on there is already acting like the club is gone....... A lot of people don't seem to realize that both sides get to speak in a situation like this
  • CAFCsayer
    CAFCsayer Posts: 10,223
    Probably blind optimism, but reckon LK has something up her sleeve here... Kept smirking throughout that last bit
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,458
    I see now why lawyers and judges get payed so well.

    To have to listen to this kind of shit for hours and hours day after day is more painful than root canal surgery!
  • meldrew66
    meldrew66 Posts: 2,561
    Rossman92 said:
    Jesus don't know why I bother with Twitter. Everyone on there is already acting like the club is gone....... A lot of people don't seem to realize that both sides get to speak in a situation like this

    hopefully...………………..eventually...…………….
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,651
    peterreeves said:
    MM ain't looking to rosy is he!

    Feels like fcuking amateur hour! 
    MM is one of them. Why the surprise? He just has a different style ie with a virtual smile on his face via twitter.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,304
    Rossman92 said:
    Jesus don't know why I bother with Twitter. Everyone on there is already acting like the club is gone....... A lot of people don't seem to realize that both sides get to speak in a situation like this
    You've seen reactions though when we're losing in actual games though... This is going to be even worse!!
  • robinofottershaw
    robinofottershaw Posts: 1,921
    Jints said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Chaisty turning to "adequacy of damages" - damages would not be adequate.

    "We will not have the share. It would make it a complete nonsense to have a trial when the shares have already gone."
    Don't understand this unless he is saying that damages not adequate remedy because no way of securing payment against a shell company. 
    You got it. That was the point he was making. What was unsaid of course was that Elliott would like to make a profit on selling on to TS rather than Nimer doing that.
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  • Leeds_Addick
    Leeds_Addick Posts: 4,698
    CAFCsayer said:
    Probably blind optimism, but reckon LK has something up her sleeve here... Kept smirking throughout that last bit
    Noticed that as well. Seemed confident!
  • NorthheathAddick
    NorthheathAddick Posts: 4,017
    CAFCsayer said:
    Probably blind optimism, but reckon LK has something up her sleeve here... Kept smirking throughout that last bit
    🤞🏻
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,347
    Laura doesn't look worried... That's about the only thing giving me hope at the moment 
  • swords_alive
    swords_alive Posts: 4,258
    Croydon said:
    KentishAddick said:
    Mihail is a complete joke. No better than the rest of them
    The sensible among us knew that. Others wanted him kept on on the board following an interview last week.
    You do know their lawyer is picking apart Mihails written submission don't you?
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    Garrymanilow said:
    I don't know what some of you were expecting. That Elliott's lawyer would just stumble over his words and hold up blank pieces of paper? That he'd be a face taped onto a mop? It doesn't matter what this guy says, if our lawyer can show that the deal was never agreed, with evidence, then hopefully that's what the judge will focus on.
    Let's hope so. We have been told by ESI 1 that they have a very strong position. Now is the time to see it.
  • mattinfinland
    mattinfinland Posts: 1,096
    Come on LK BRING IT HOME
  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,273
    Chaisty is really stringing out his hourly rate here.  References to how many are on line, what a bore.  Just give the facts in short, sharp, summary.  He doth protest too much me thinks.
  • meldrew66
    meldrew66 Posts: 2,561
    There is one single, simple decision for the judge: Is there (yes or no) a legally binding agreement for ESI to buy the club from Panorama Magic?
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,304
    swords_alive said:
    Croydon said:
    KentishAddick said:
    Mihail is a complete joke. No better than the rest of them
    The sensible among us knew that. Others wanted him kept on on the board following an interview last week.
    You do know their lawyer is picking apart Mihails written submission don't you?
    Depends if the judge agrees with what Chaisty is saying though...
  • Karim_myBagheri
    Karim_myBagheri Posts: 12,697
    Yeah they get paid alot but fuck me I would have to if I had to listen to this kind of shit for hours on end. Get on with it! 
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