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The rise of the vegans.
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Others will take note of what he said. Some of them will, hitherto, have been unaware of the reality of the dairy trade. The fact that he's a rich guy is irrelevant. He's a vegan and he's an activist. He used his Oscar acceptance speech to assist the exploited. Good on him.6
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Popped into a village 'coffee and cake' morning up the road. Most folk there were 70-90yrs old. Lovely lady asked if I wanted cake and I said no, so as not to have the vegan discussion. Then my eye spotted a label 'vegan' on a chocolate cake. Oh, a vegan cake - yes please. The elderly lady was also a vegan and shouted to her friend - also a vegan - to bring the vegan coffee and walnut cake over. Bloody hell. Then they pointed to a man in his 90s, Jack, who is also a vegan! This really was a lesson in stereotypes and assumptions. It felt like the vegan version of 'the only gay in the village'.
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They sound like a swingers club using the vegan angle to gain more members if you ask meArsenetatters said:Popped into a village 'coffee and cake' morning up the road. Most folk there were 70-90yrs old. Lovely lady asked if I wanted cake and I said no, so as not to have the vegan discussion. Then my eye spotted a label 'vegan' on a chocolate cake. Oh, a vegan cake - yes please. The elderly lady was also a vegan and shouted to her friend - also a vegan - to bring the vegan coffee and walnut cake over. Bloody hell. Then they pointed to a man in his 90s, Jack, who is also a vegan! This really was a lesson in stereotypes and assumptions. It felt like the vegan version of 'the only gay in the village'.
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Its only a small sample of 160,000 people, but....
A vegetarian or vegan diet may be increasing the likelihood of depression a US-based study has found.
People with a plant-based diet were twice as likely to take prescription drugs for mental illness and nearly three times as likely to contemplate suicide.
The report, which looked at more than 160,000 people, also found that a shocking one in three vegetarians suffer from depression or anxiety.
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I only know a few adult vegans and they all suffer from depression, although I'm not sure whether the depression or being a vegan came first.MrWalker said:Its only a small sample of 160,000 people, but....A vegetarian or vegan diet may be increasing the likelihood of depression a US-based study has found.
People with a plant-based diet were twice as likely to take prescription drugs for mental illness and nearly three times as likely to contemplate suicide.
The report, which looked at more than 160,000 people, also found that a shocking one in three vegetarians suffer from depression or anxiety.
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I believe it is true to say that every nutrient necessary for life and growth, the vitamins and b numbers and so on, can be got from a plant based diet. It may be easier to assimilate that stuff more rapidly from meat than from soya for example, but it doesn't seem like it is about available nutrients that may be the cause of depression (is the study credible?). Carnivores can get depression too.
Perhaps there is some kind of psychological interface going on when being a person that avoids animal products, something that is associated with the decision rather than the diet.0 -
carnivores often get depressed listening to vegans 😉seth plum said:I believe it is true to say that every nutrient necessary for life and growth, the vitamins and b numbers and so on, can be got from a plant based diet. It may be easier to assimilate that stuff more rapidly from meat than from soya for example, but it doesn't seem like it is about available nutrients that may be the cause of depression (is the study credible?). Carnivores can get depression too.
Perhaps there is some kind of psychological interface going on when being a person that avoids animal products, something that is associated with the decision rather than the diet.2 -
Vegans often get depression from the lack of imagination shown by carnivores in their putdowns.7
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amongst many sh*te school playground jokes and one liners my kids tell me when I pick them up was this gem on Friday:-
If we aren't meant to eat animals, why are they made of food.
Made me chuckle anyway...2 - Sponsored links:
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Looking forward to January given the Mrs is 90% on board this time round. She won't give up dairy.
Hoping we can continue it after for a few months this time to see how we get on.2 -
Why don’t you both just do it now rather than wait to January1
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Why do my meat eating 'friends' feel the need to tell me what they had for dinner because it contained something I don't eat? It seems like a continual joke to mention if they had chicken - ooo sorry ha ha. Or a juicy steak etc etc. Yes I do find the thought of eating meat repulsive so why tell me about it? I don't phone them to say I've just had a fecking lentil. I don't mention bloody food. Why is it when I have lunch with friends and they have meat they feel the need to point it out to me? Again, I don't point out fecking lentils I just eat them.Yesterday a good friend was telling me about her holiday and said 'there was this really funny incident which you wouldn't want to hear because it involes killing a lobster' then proceeded to tell me.It's really getting on my tits.11
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It's weird I rarely say what I've eaten to people.
I might mention where.1 -
Quite simply @Arsenetatters some people are just dickheads.4
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Thank you - I was getting really wound up thinking about this and your comment made me smile 😃AddickUpNorth said:Quite simply @Arsenetatters some people are just dickheads.3 -
It used to annoy me when people acted like those you described. One colleague (never a friend) used to take great delight in saying stuff like ‘I’m having dead pig in my sandwich. Enjoy your tofu’ and it used to push my buttons especially as I made it my goal not to become known as that ‘annoying vegan’ who pushed my ethical and moral beliefs on anyone. One day I figured that my reaction was exactly what they wanted so to diffuse their bollocks I chose to smile and say ‘very good’. Eventually the jibes stopped. Nowadays I usually get asked what I’m having because it smells so good.
We just have to accept that there are people who are scared of having their worldview challenged, scared of being left behind. People who can’t handle that there are people like us who have questioned the way of things and who’ve listened to their own moral inner voice. They are truly the ones with the issues.
Stay righteous, stay strong and laugh at them. Leave them to stew in their own juices of ignorance and indifference. Keep on being you, that’s all that matters.6 -
Should have cooked up your colleague.0
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Dazzler21 said:Should have cooked up your colleague.
Maybe but rancid bitterness doesn’t taste as good a nice bean chilli.3 -
Anyone that feels the need to tell everyone else of their diet is a weirdo. You don’t tell people when you shit or have a wash, why do I care what you eat.4
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Unfortunately, some people think they're 'Banter Kings' when it comes to shit like this, and that taking the piss out of someone's diet is hilarious.
In reality, they're just as irritating as people who proselytise about being vegan. Shut up, mind your own fucking business and move on.4 -
You’re in the wrong WhatsApp groups...ValleyGary said:You don’t tell people when you shit or have a wash,9 -
I was at the Physio today and of course there were a lot of anatomical charts on the walls. Which in turn looked like the slabs of meat you would see hanging in Butchers shop windows, had they been there, they wouldn’t have looked out of place.
A neighbour was ill recently and I would sometimes do her shopping and it was always horrible having to pick up uncooked meat for her, it really did look disgusting. I think when I ate meat and fish myself, even though I knew it to be an animal, I think I felt somehow removed but now that I don’t, I find it hard to understand how anyone could eat meat or fish, seems totally barbaric!3 -
Here’s a thought, how about we start farming humans for consumption?1
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sillav nitram said:Here’s a thought, how about we start farming humans for consumption?
You’d still be killing a sentient being so it’s a no from me. I accept that a lot of humans are dumber than a blue bottle stuck behind a window but even so.....3 -
Here’s a thought. Why don’t we let people eat what they want without judgement.sillav nitram said:Here’s a thought, how about we start farming humans for consumption?8 -
It wasn’t a serious thought, just based on how comfortable humans are at farming animals for our consumption, wondering how they’d feel if it was the other way round.AddickUpNorth said:sillav nitram said:Here’s a thought, how about we start farming humans for consumption?
You’d still be killing a sentient being so it’s a no from me. I accept that a lot of humans are dumber than a blue bottle stuck behind a window but even so.....
The great debate, the incredible ingenuity of humans and how dumb they are at the same time.2 -
Because by eating animals you’re killing a sentient being, when there’s no need.MrOneLung said:
Here’s a thought. Why don’t we let people eat what they want without judgement.sillav nitram said:ItHere’s a thought, how about we start farming humans for consumption?
The fact that most humans don’t actually kill the animals themselves, they leave it to others, means they can absolve themselves from the guilt of their barbaric action.2 -
I honestly don’t have any feelings towards a random cow I’ve never met until it’s sitting on my plate. I’m completely comfortable with that. What’s it’s got to do with anyone else I don’t really know or care.sillav nitram said:
It wasn’t a serious thought, just based on how comfortable humans are at farming animals for our consumption, wondering how they’d feel if it was the other way round.AddickUpNorth said:sillav nitram said:Here’s a thought, how about we start farming humans for consumption?
You’d still be killing a sentient being so it’s a no from me. I accept that a lot of humans are dumber than a blue bottle stuck behind a window but even so.....
The great debate, the incredible ingenuity of humans and how dumb they are at the same time.1 -
And the fact that most humans don’t pick their carrots out of a field and leave it to others to do?sillav nitram said:
Because by eating animals you’re killing a sentient being, when there’s no need.MrOneLung said:
Here’s a thought. Why don’t we let people eat what they want without judgement.sillav nitram said:ItHere’s a thought, how about we start farming humans for consumption?
The fact that most humans don’t actually kill the animals themselves, they leave it to others, means they can absolve themselves from the guilt of their barbaric action.
or do you make your own clothes or buy from a shop that has them made in Pakistan Bangladesh China etc7
