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Post-match Thread: Milton Keynes v Charlton Athletic | Tue 26 Jan 2021 | 7pm
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Great three points. As Bowyer pointed out some decent passing second half would have made it more comfortable and make us more like top three / four team.1
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The only thing Bowyer got wrong in my opinion didn't have any effect on the game so I'm happy.0
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Off_it said:
OK, I get it now.Cafc43v3r said:
No of course I am pleased we won. But saying MK Dons are a decent side for this level or saying we struggled against worse is damming with fair praise. They aren't. They are 16th for a reason. To paraphrase Tony Mowbray "we should be beating teams like that".ForeverAddickted said:
It isnt but you sound disappointed we won...Cafc43v3r said:
Why do you think that's anything to brag about?redbuttle said:
Can you actually give it a rest please.Cafc43v3r said:We have come back from 3-1 down against the team in 18th, 2 down against the team in 23rd, and beaten the teams in 16th and 19th 1-0 away and people honestly think that's good and gutsy?
Like Bowyer is saying, it just gives the players and everyone a lift
Like I said after the last few games, there are signs since the last hour against Rochdale that a corner is being turned but we still aren't putting together a good 90 minutes, let alone a string of games.
4 points is the absolute minimum we should have got out of those last 2 games isn't it?
MK Dons are 16th for a reason - because they're not very good.
On the other hand we are 6th because of sheer luck - because we are also not very good.
That it?
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Johnny Robinson on Saturday's coverage with Scotty and Curbs!22
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But what about the dressing room unrest?stoneroses19 said:Millar on VP“Feels great. Nice to actually score. Boys were great today”
”they play good football. We did what we had to do. It’s all good”
”Worked a lot on getting in to the box”
”It’s great I see progress. Can see myself getting better and better each week”
”I want to attack and score goals and assists. But my job is also to deal with wing backs. I don’t enjoy it but need to do it to make the team successful”
”I’m here to get the ball and drive at players. My final ball needs to improve. Helps us get the ball away from the back and keep possession”
”I’m loving it here. Lads are great. I’m really enjoying it. It’s very different from u23s, intensity is different. I’m getting in to the rhythm now”
”Left wing is my favourite position.”
(seriously though what's changed since second half against Rochdale)2 -
Can’t wait to see Robinson11
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I thought we played 4-4-2 but the commentators said it was a diamondLincsaddick said:All been said, terrific performance .. I had serious doubts over Millar's signing, SO pleased to be proven wrong .. 4 4 2 is the way to go, nothing fancy .. good to see Purry back in the side .. we still need a central defender though0 -
Yeah I think he wanted someone to do the Washington job when Wash went off and Ronnie clearly isn't that type so it could be argued Morgan was the man for that task. Hard worker and can pass. I can see how you might consider it, but I think we'd have done better with Schwartz alongside Chuks.esseffect said:
True, but his hand forced to make that decision?Dazzler21 said:
In fairness it was a mediocre 35 minutes.esseffect said:
About time we had mediocre performance and got 3 points.Cafc43v3r said:
Why do you think that's anything to brag about?redbuttle said:
Can you actually give it a rest please.Cafc43v3r said:We have come back from 3-1 down against the team in 18th, 2 down against the team in 23rd, and beaten the teams in 16th and 19th 1-0 away and people honestly think that's good and gutsy?
I’ll take that over playing well and then losing out to individual defensive errors
Once Washington went off and we pushed Shinnie into the CF role and Schwartz to RW we were completely unbalanced. A managerial decision that didn't work.
We got the win though so Hurrah to the haddocks.I’m a big advocate of Washington and his pressure/getting in behind defenders. Don’t think we have many others like it.
which is why I can’t understand people being flakey on him3 -
A slight feeling that we got away with it rather than deserving it, though there's been better performances that deserved a win and got nothing.
In the wider context of Bowyer and his job security, well, both camps can argue their cases there. A win and a clean sheet is good, and we started out with square pegs in square holes as much as was possible. On the other hand we seemed to have Shinnie up front and Schwartz out wide by the end so who knows. I'm still firmly in the "let Sandgaard make that decision" camp frankly, I can see both sides have valid points.4 -
But these 4 points are almost exactly the same as the 4 points we got against Rochdale and Rovers. In very similar circumstances.ForeverAddickted said:
Well my first two words in my last post confirm that... I agree its nothing to shout home aboutCafc43v3r said:
No of course I am pleased we won. But saying MK Dons are a decent side for this level or saying we struggled against worse is damming with fair praise. They aren't. They are 16th for a reason. To paraphrase Tony Mowbray "we should be beating teams like that".ForeverAddickted said:
It isnt but you sound disappointed we won...Cafc43v3r said:
Why do you think that's anything to brag about?redbuttle said:
Can you actually give it a rest please.Cafc43v3r said:We have come back from 3-1 down against the team in 18th, 2 down against the team in 23rd, and beaten the teams in 16th and 19th 1-0 away and people honestly think that's good and gutsy?
Like Bowyer is saying, it just gives the players and everyone a lift
Like I said after the last few games, there are signs since the last hour against Rochdale that a corner is being turned but we still aren't putting together a good 90 minutes, let alone a string of games.
4 points is the absolute minimum we should have got out of those last 2 games isn't it?
But at the same time every win isnt going to be a performance at the standard from Saturday when we bloody deserved all three points - Its the strange way that Football works, yet with Portsmouth on their way I'm glad the defence have a bit of confidence from tonight to build upon, the issue was never about scoring goals, it hasnt been the case all season
Then we played a decent team and lost. Where in all honesty we shouldn't have done. That was a bit of a freak.
Now we play Pompy on Saturday. If we win you can look back at this block of 6 and say its ok, maybe even good.
It's so frustrating knowing that this group of players can play like they have in patches. We all know hand on heart they can, and have played better.
To answer another poster if I was there tonight o wouldn't be "going mental" I would be letting out a massive sigh of relief.
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Good all round performance. Bit flat up front...but 3 points and a clean sheet.
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The pop up tent @ Sparrows Lane became a Royal Rumble type venue - Bowyer said that he'd listen to the players if they could all take him on, two minutes into the fight he threw Aneke through the window like an Olympic Discus and everyone backed down.FishCostaFortune said:
But what about the dressing room unrest?stoneroses19 said:Millar on VP“Feels great. Nice to actually score. Boys were great today”
”they play good football. We did what we had to do. It’s all good”
”Worked a lot on getting in to the box”
”It’s great I see progress. Can see myself getting better and better each week”
”I want to attack and score goals and assists. But my job is also to deal with wing backs. I don’t enjoy it but need to do it to make the team successful”
”I’m here to get the ball and drive at players. My final ball needs to improve. Helps us get the ball away from the back and keep possession”
”I’m loving it here. Lads are great. I’m really enjoying it. It’s very different from u23s, intensity is different. I’m getting in to the rhythm now”
”Left wing is my favourite position.”
(seriously though what's changed since second half against Rochdale)
Its why Chuks couldnt start against Peterborough last week3 -
I have been critical of Bowyer recently but that was a professional and gritty performance well done!4
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I have been fair to Bowyer despite some odd decisions. Pearce has constantly been a danger to his own side so bringing him on was a change we've seen time and time again cost us. That simply cannot be denied, especially as at the time I typed that I had just watched Bowyer haul off our best player who didn't even look tired.Soundasa£ said:
FFS.......give it a break!Dazzler21 said:I think we're desperate not to concede and we're seeing Bowyer make changes that we've seen time and time again cause a goal.
It turned out that it didn't affect the game either positively or negatively, so it was fine.
A win on Saturday and we're at least finishing the month on a high.
Expecting a loss so anything more is a bonus.0 -
Nope still here. We are six, which realistically will be 7th or 8th when the other teams catch up on their games, because we have one of the best and most highly paid squads in the league.Callumcafc said:Off_it said:
OK, I get it now.Cafc43v3r said:
No of course I am pleased we won. But saying MK Dons are a decent side for this level or saying we struggled against worse is damming with fair praise. They aren't. They are 16th for a reason. To paraphrase Tony Mowbray "we should be beating teams like that".ForeverAddickted said:
It isnt but you sound disappointed we won...Cafc43v3r said:
Why do you think that's anything to brag about?redbuttle said:
Can you actually give it a rest please.Cafc43v3r said:We have come back from 3-1 down against the team in 18th, 2 down against the team in 23rd, and beaten the teams in 16th and 19th 1-0 away and people honestly think that's good and gutsy?
Like Bowyer is saying, it just gives the players and everyone a lift
Like I said after the last few games, there are signs since the last hour against Rochdale that a corner is being turned but we still aren't putting together a good 90 minutes, let alone a string of games.
4 points is the absolute minimum we should have got out of those last 2 games isn't it?
MK Dons are 16th for a reason - because they're not very good.
On the other hand we are 6th because of sheer luck - because we are also not very good.
That it?
Despite the wage cap I would still expect MK Dons's wage bill is half ours.
That it?15 -
You only deserve to win by scoring more than your opponent.thenewbie said:A slight feeling that we got away with it rather than deserving it, though there's been better performances that deserved a win and got nothing.
In the wider context of Bowyer and his job security, well, both camps can argue their cases there. A win and a clean sheet is good, and we started out with square pegs in square holes as much as was possible. On the other hand we seemed to have Shinnie up front and Schwartz out wide by the end so who knows. I'm still firmly in the "let Sandgaard make that decision" camp frankly, I can see both sides have valid points.
We therefore deserved to win.6 -
I very much doubt that the MKDons salary bill is much less than ours. Certainly not £1.25m less!2
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Therefore we deserved to loose to Peterborough and not beat Swindon.Dazzler21 said:
You only deserve to win by scoring more than your opponent.thenewbie said:A slight feeling that we got away with it rather than deserving it, though there's been better performances that deserved a win and got nothing.
In the wider context of Bowyer and his job security, well, both camps can argue their cases there. A win and a clean sheet is good, and we started out with square pegs in square holes as much as was possible. On the other hand we seemed to have Shinnie up front and Schwartz out wide by the end so who knows. I'm still firmly in the "let Sandgaard make that decision" camp frankly, I can see both sides have valid points.
We therefore deserved to win.
Which many people, me included, didn't say.
Yet I am accused of wanting it both ways.1 -
Love listening to Curbs and Scottie.....I can't believe some are still moaning about tonight's performance, we went away from home won, kept a clean sheet, nullified their most dangerous player, could and perhaps should've had scored at least 1 more. Tonight wasn't pretty, but there was fight and the cohesion seems to be coming back.....now lets just enjoy it and look forward to Saturday, what does it take to make some people happy FFS!!25
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tbf to Curbs, JJ made no impact at all that I could see-mind you, his legs have goneAthletico Charlton said:Pratley had a great game. Not only kept Fraser quiet all the way through but had Jackson in his pocket too according to Curbs.2 -
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Really good character building win. Can’t fault anyone for that performance. Really pleased we ground out that victory. Hoping Purrington keeps his place in the side and we can see Famewo back against Pompey.Big game on Saturday but a real opportunity to start a run as we approach the backend of the season5
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Painful to watch us sometimes, yeah we won but some of our play defensively and in the final third is laughable. Take the points but needs a more assured performance Saturday.0
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A good ugly away 1 - 0 . Restricted MK to very few chances and defence looked a lot more solid tonight . Bit disappointed with Aneke and Schwartz second half .0
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A crucial 3 points, but while I was pleased with the 1st half performance, where we passed the ball nicely and pressed MKD well, the second half was too passive and our passing was very poor
We defended well though, Pratley was a great shield and bossed Fraser out of the game, Deji was dominant while Millar worked very hard.
Stockley and Washington combined well, but then I can imagine Stockley alongside any of our strikers
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I still can't work out if I prefer to see us 1-0 down or up!
1 down leads to a more attacking and hungry game
1 up just turns into a a defend the cup final game you would at all costs3 -
It’s odd I’ve seen us play miles better this season and lose.I’m going to enjoy the victory though
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1 up we winmendonca said:I still can't work out if I prefer to see us 1-0 down or up!
1 down leads to a more attacking and hungry game
1 up just turns into a a defend the cup final game you would at all costs
1 down we don't.
It's simple
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Cafc43v3r said:
Nope still here. We are six, which realistically will be 7th or 8th when the other teams catch up on their games, because we have one of the best and most highly paid squads in the league.Callumcafc said:Off_it said:
OK, I get it now.Cafc43v3r said:
No of course I am pleased we won. But saying MK Dons are a decent side for this level or saying we struggled against worse is damming with fair praise. They aren't. They are 16th for a reason. To paraphrase Tony Mowbray "we should be beating teams like that".ForeverAddickted said:
It isnt but you sound disappointed we won...Cafc43v3r said:
Why do you think that's anything to brag about?redbuttle said:
Can you actually give it a rest please.Cafc43v3r said:We have come back from 3-1 down against the team in 18th, 2 down against the team in 23rd, and beaten the teams in 16th and 19th 1-0 away and people honestly think that's good and gutsy?
Like Bowyer is saying, it just gives the players and everyone a lift
Like I said after the last few games, there are signs since the last hour against Rochdale that a corner is being turned but we still aren't putting together a good 90 minutes, let alone a string of games.
4 points is the absolute minimum we should have got out of those last 2 games isn't it?
MK Dons are 16th for a reason - because they're not very good.
On the other hand we are 6th because of sheer luck - because we are also not very good.
That it?
Despite the wage cap I would still expect MK Dons's wage bill is half ours.
That it?
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Happy with that, though the 2nd half felt like hard work. What have I learned?
Millar is going to be a top player, MOM for me.
Just because there are some things Pratley isn't good at, doesn't mean there aren't others that he is. Excellent today
we missed Washington's energy when he went off. He may not be a natural goal scorer but he does work hard.
Shinnie is really quite good at this level, Morgan has some really good games, but he's not at Shinnie's level yet.
We defended as a team, got a bit lucky, but we were due some. Everyone played their part, Deji was again the most assured of the defence.
Off to put some ointment on what's left of my nails
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No different to saying Bowyer picked the wrong team when we dont winaddick1956 said:
That is hindsight.ForeverAddickted said:
We didnt need toJayajosh said:
In all fairness we were outplayed for the final 60 minutes and didn’t look like we had any hope of scoring.CafcTeckers said:Even when we win people seem to find a way to moan. Great 3 points 3
