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Rumours Rumours - Summer 2021 edition (Deadline Day from p814)
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Jorge Grant0
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That would be very nice :-)I-SAW-POUSO-PLAY said:Jorge Grant0 -
So thats Chucks, Amos and Pearce right?MattF said:0 -
You’d like us to sign him or have heard something?I-SAW-POUSO-PLAY said:Jorge Grant0 -
Brilliant news. Let’s hope we can agree the contracts.
Presume that is Chucks, Amos, Pearce, Mathews and JFC.0 -
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Good news but it doesn't really mean anything until they've signed. I'm sure if any of them said they didn't want to stay they'd have been on the released list.12
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For one brief perverse moment I imagined Nigel ending that sentence with " but they can't" and blowing a raspberry.MattF said:4 -
Going against the grain, but personally I was hoping most, if not all of them would move on.
I know that’s a tin hat statement, I just don’t have much love for any of them.
I respect Pearce, proper pro, proper leader, but I think we need better, even as a back up.
I know I’m in the minority with JFC, but I’ve never been overly impressed with him, regardless of the injury. In a hypothetical situation, had he not got injured, I wasn’t really feeling him at the centre of midfield being the main focal point as he had seemed to become
Aneke, well, he’s got talent, but for me, the two years have been very stop start. I just don’t look at him and think Lyle Taylor, Yann Kermorgant, Bradley Wright Philips, Andy Hunt or Clive Mendonca
Amos is the only maybe for me.The other 2, definitely not fussed.
Of the 6, I expect Pearce, JFC, Amos & Watson to stay. Not sure about Aneke & Matthews.16 -
This is only positive, there would surely be a subtle hint if players were off. And the fact he wants the squad in place before pre season is excellent.MattF said:2 -
Watson stays whether we like it or not!0
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Not at all, Adkins makes it clear there’s a lot going on around recruitment. If any of these players leave it just means we need to sign more players. Whatever they do we still need several signings.addick1956 said:So until these sign or not we can't move on others maybe. Not exactly the best situation for Thomas.
I would, if it were me, just move on where I could and gradually remove offers if they don't start to sign.2 -
Weak statements coming out of the club from this Adkins interview…we are not being ruthless enough with the players we want to resign - letting them see if they can get a better offer ! Weak strategy while other potential talent out there slips by - remember this was the team that failed to get promotion 🤦🏼♂️🤷🏻♂️🤦🏼
https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-athletic-boss-nigel-adkins-all-our-out-of-contract-players-want-to-stay/
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Expected more by now to be honest. Not hollow sound bites.
If they wanted to sign, they would have done.5 -
Thomas may have pricked agents ears up with talk of Europe etc and now might be setting his stall out early that although he is ambitious we are not going to be taken for a ride.2
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Out of curiosity, how exactly do you propose we'd stop them listening to other offers exactly?TheAddicks4Ever said:Weak statements coming out of the club from this Adkins interview…we are not being ruthless enough with the players we want to resign - letting them see if they can get a better offer ! Weak strategy while other potential talent out there slips by - remember this was the team that failed to get promotion 🤦🏼♂️🤷🏻♂️🤦🏼
https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-athletic-boss-nigel-adkins-all-our-out-of-contract-players-want-to-stay/7 -
The clubs being used again by certain players. Then you get this rubbish that they want to all stay !!! NO!! they want to play us off and fall back on us if no one else wants them, there just trying to keep us sweet. Just get rid of them and start again with players that actually want to be here !!!16
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Yeah, you're right - why not offer them all £12k a week with higher goal, assist and win bonuses to match what a Championship club might offer themTheAddicks4Ever said:Weak statements coming out of the club from this Adkins interview…we are not being ruthless enough with the players we want to resign - letting them see if they can get a better offer ! Weak strategy while other potential talent out there slips by - remember this was the team that failed to get promotion 🤦🏼♂️🤷🏻♂️🤦🏼
https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-athletic-boss-nigel-adkins-all-our-out-of-contract-players-want-to-stay/0 -
Disagree, their agent will be saying don’t sign until last minute in case a massive offer comes in somewhere else which is what the article hints at. Seems normal course of business to me, they have their offer, it’s there for them, they’ll sign if and when.J BLOCK said:Expected more by now to be honest. Not hollow sound bites.
If they wanted to sign, they would have done.2 -
Of course the majority are probably going to want more than what they're on.
Who doesnt want a payrise each year?
Its just up to Sandgaard whether they deserve it or not
Watson and Matthews at the very least will probably want more as they signed under a Salary Cap2 -
It’s practically mid June and nothing has happened, it’s time to press the panic button.
The next two minutes could be crucial.
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I think the key thing here is that this is the way transfer business / transfer windows happen now, particularly with so many players out of contract. It's a game of brinkmanship and if we don't play that game, we are going to end up paying over the odds. Relax, watch the Euros' and leave the worrying to those at the club who can actually do anything about it.11
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Give them a week’s deadline to sign the contract offer - and move on and get better players inthenewbie said:
Out of curiosity, how exactly do you propose we'd stop them listening to other offers exactly?TheAddicks4Ever said:Weak statements coming out of the club from this Adkins interview…we are not being ruthless enough with the players we want to resign - letting them see if they can get a better offer ! Weak strategy while other potential talent out there slips by - remember this was the team that failed to get promotion 🤦🏼♂️🤷🏻♂️🤦🏼
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Yes because this is happening at Charlton and only Charlton in all of the league. No other team has any out of contract players who are trying to get a good offer from another team. Definitely not. No sir.FAVADDICK said:The clubs being used again by certain players. Then you get this rubbish that they want to all stay !!! NO!! they want to play us off and fall back on us if no one else wants them, there just trying to keep us sweet. Just get rid of them and start again with players that actually want to be here !!!
Meanwhile we have players like Stockley so desperate and passionate to play at Charlton that he decided to go on holiday before worrying about the contract.
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FAVADDICK said:The clubs being used again by certain players. Then you get this rubbish that they want to all stay !!! NO!! they want to play us off and fall back on us if no one else wants them, there just trying to keep us sweet. Just get rid of them and start again with players that actually want to be here !!!
So unrealistic.
They are professional footballers, it's their livelihood. Of course they look around to see what else is on offer and compare that with our offer.
Just as players at other clubs last season are looking at what we've offered and are deciding whether to stay with the other club or join us.
If they join is it because they "want to be here" and they are fulfilling their life's ambition of playing for Charlton in league 1 or because we made the best offer? I think we all know the answer.
They are not fans, it's a job to them. Yes, once they have signed I expect them to show loyalty and commitment to the club and team and they have and will but let's not get high and mighty about this when other players who have been let go are described by fans demanding loyalty as "deadwood", "shit", "not good enough" etc etc.
This is why there is no point Adkins or anyone else at the club trying to explain to some fans what is happening.
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“Yes boss, of course I want to stay but my agent says that the offer is far too low” The cynic in me leads me to believe that the wanting to stay is just camouflage in case they are forced to stay because nothing better comes along. If they wanted to stay they would have signed.
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So how long do you allow them to string us along before then dropping us. It has been what 4 or 5 weeks since the end of the season players know way before this what there being offered or what other teams will be in for them. Like I said this is just words we need action and fast its 3 weeks before the start of pre season and we need to be ready to go, not hope this players might sign when it suits them.thenewbie said:
Yes because this is happening at Charlton and only Charlton in all of the league. No other team has any out of contract players who are trying to get a good offer from another team. Definitely not. No sir.FAVADDICK said:The clubs being used again by certain players. Then you get this rubbish that they want to all stay !!! NO!! they want to play us off and fall back on us if no one else wants them, there just trying to keep us sweet. Just get rid of them and start again with players that actually want to be here !!!7
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