Euro 2020 Thread

Bournesnr said:

Does anybody play more boring football than England?

Portugal were boring in 2016 and Greece were really boring in 2004.

LawrieAbrahams said:

Bournesnr said:

Does anybody play more boring football than England?

Portugal were boring in 2016 and Greece were really boring in 2004.

Oh yeah forgot them.

ForeverAddickted said:

How did Finland finish ahead of Russia

I thought H2H was used ahead of Goal Difference so Russia should have finished ahead based on their 1-0 win? 

Because Denmark, Russia and Finland all beat each other, the head to head is equal. So it is then decided on GD.

ForeverAddickted said:

How did Finland finish ahead of Russia

I thought H2H was used ahead of Goal Difference so Russia should have finished ahead based on their 1-0 win? 

If two or more teams are equal on points on completion of the group matches, the following tie-breaking criteria are applied:

1. Higher number of points obtained in the matches played between the teams in question;
2. Superior goal difference resulting from the matches played between the teams in question;
3. Higher number of goals scored in the matches played between the teams in question;
4. If, after having applied criteria 1 to 3, teams still have an equal ranking, criteria 1 to 3 are reapplied exclusively to the matches between the teams who are still level to determine their final rankings. If this procedure does not lead to a decision, criteria 5 to 10 apply;
5. Superior goal difference in all group matches;
6. Higher number of goals scored in all group matches;
7. Higher number of wins in all group matches;
8. If on the last round of the group stage, two teams are facing each other and each has the same number of points, as well as the same number of goals scored and conceded, and the score finishes level in their match, their ranking is determined by a penalty shoot out. (This criterion is not used if more than two teams have the same number of points.);
9. Lower disciplinary points total in all group matches (1 point for a single yellow card, 3 points for a red card as a consequence of two yellow cards, 3 points for a direct red card, 4 points for a yellow card followed by a direct red card);
10. Higher position in the European Qualifiers overall ranking.

Tiebreaker 2 goal difference:

- Denmark +2:
Denmark 0-1 Finland, Denmark 4-1 Russia
- Finland 0:
Denmark 0-1 Finland, Russia 1-0 Finland
- Russia -2:
Russia 1-0 Finland, Denmark 4-1 Russia

Results against Belgium are irrelevant to the calculation.

If Sweden draw 0-0 tomorrow while Slovakia and Spain play out a draw themselves, Sweden will have won their group while scoring only one goal from the penalty spot. Southgate would be proud.

If you are gonna have the under 21s finishing bottom you have also got to have us finishing top this tournament 

ForeverAddickted said:

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

Harsh or pretty much the stark reality?

Where is the bit about beating Spain and World Cup finalists to reach the Nations League Finals where we finished third?

Don’t you start letting the full facts get in the way of a certain narrative, whatever next………….😉

ForeverAddickted said:

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

Harsh or pretty much the stark reality?

Where is the bit about beating Spain and World Cup finalists to reach the Nations League Finals where we finished third?

Not to mention getting the players in the right mentality to actually win not one, but two penalty shootouts, probably our most successful Manager with them. It was also only Sweden that we beat in the QFs but we'd only beaten them once previously since 1968.

Id argue he's less of a fraud than Chris Coleman

Granted that win in Spain, the first half was the best 45 minutes i think i've seen from an England side since we beat Holland at Euro 96.

But was the Nations league that good overall? Fair point we did beat Spain, but we also lost to them. In the finals, we then lost to Holland (only scoring from a penalty) and defensively we were a shambles, then drew 0-0 with Switzerland. Out of 6 games, we won 2.

Ultimately all it proves is what we already know, we're hard to beat because only 1 of those 6 games was lost in 90 minutes.

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

ForeverAddickted said:

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

Harsh or pretty much the stark reality?

Where is the bit about beating Spain and World Cup finalists to reach the Nations League Finals where we finished third?

Not to mention getting the players in the right mentality to actually win not one, but two penalty shootouts, probably our most successful Manager with them. It was also only Sweden that we beat in the QFs but we'd only beaten them once previously since 1968.

Id argue he's less of a fraud than Chris Coleman

Granted that win in Spain, the first half was the best 45 minutes i think i've seen from an England side since we beat Holland at Euro 96.

But was the Nations league that good overall? Fair point we did beat Spain, but we also lost to them. In the finals, we then lost to Holland (only scoring from a penalty) and defensively we were a shambles, then drew 0-0 with Switzerland. Out of 6 games, we won 2.

Ultimately all it proves is what we already know, we're hard to beat because only 1 of those 6 games was lost in 90 minutes.

Is it enough to say he's a fraud then?

Says a lot about those who have come before him. 

It still amazes me how Southgate gets stick for an easy route to the Semi-Finals yet Capello couldn't even get us to finish top of a Group that involved: the United States, Algeria and Slovakia.

Had we done that then we'd have avoided Germany in the R16

Bournesnr said:

Does anybody play more boring football than England?

Did you find the first half boring last night ?

se9addick said:

I don’t think Southgate is a fraud (England just won their group FFS), but the major pre-tournament fear - that he wouldn’t be able to get the most out of England’s prodigious attacking talent - is looking worryingly accurate. 

It’s looking like Germany in the next round and I think that will be tough, but winnable, for England and I wouldn’t panic just yet. 

I would prefer Germany over France or Portugal because Hummel's could be done for pace by Saka, Sterling etc but I feel France v Portugal could be a draw and Germany beat Hungary so the French would visit Wembley.

Germany would be tough but we could always play for penalties. 

Callumcafc said:

England now hold the record for least goals scored while winning a group (two).

If Sweden draw 0-0 tomorrow while Slovakia and Spain play out a draw themselves, Sweden will have won their group while scoring only one goal from the penalty spot. Southgate would be proud.

England also hold the joint record for least goals conceded whilst winning a group.

Laddick01 said:

Hoping for tonight:

France to smash Portugal 
Hungary to nick a winner late on

That will do nicely. I am still wondering which games to pick!