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Rumours Rumours - Summer 2021 edition (Deadline Day from p814)

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  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    Oh god please let us not lose to Sheffield Wednesday next Saturday. The justified celebrants of doom (band name copyright:me) will be something to behold.
  • arny23394
    arny23394 Posts: 1,180
    If we could get one more in before next Saturday, someone who can play across the front three, that would be spot on. However, Washington has looked very sharp the whole pre season and has solidified that position on LW.
    Without a LB in the Wiggins mould, I’m not sure playing Washington regularly at LW is a great idea. Would put pressure on Morgan and DJ to create, as not much will come from the left side.
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,909
    DOUCHER said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Why do people get so bothered about posters like Ronnie Moore? Just ignore him if you think he’s posting nonsense. Honestly this thread has been a car crash all summer, used to be quite fun checking into the rumours thread in years gone by but its just silly squabbling with no actual rumours. 
    This. He's posting rumours on a rumours thread. And people are getting angry about it. Ffs. If his pists annoy you, ignore them. He 's done nothing to merit some of the shit slung his way.
    but they are not rumours just made up bollocks and then when he says it was in the local Plymouth rag it quite clearly wasn't so more made up bollocks. I'm all for people posting actually rumours/whispers that may have heard from somewhere or other but to come on and just make things up? 
    Also announced that Mullin and Tucker had both signed. There was someone else as well (can't remember who) but when he signed for another club he claimed he'd only posted it as a joke 
    If your going print rubbish get your facts right .. that was not me so I expect an apology don’t expect I get one from
    someone hiding behind a keyboard 
    Do you really want someone to go through and highlight all the made up nonsense you have spouted though? 
    Wouldn't be a bad idea - ronnie is very optimistic and has a high rumour rate no doubt about it but part of me thinks he's getting a bit of a rough deal here coz some of the usual heavyweight bores have decided he's a troll - lets see the charge sheet !!
    He made up a rumour about a player that doesn’t even exist last week. 

    Today it’s stuff from ‘local news sources’ in 2021, literally everything is online.

    100% nailed on WUM . 
    enough seem to agree with you but information can get lost in translation sometimes before it gets posted up 
  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,212
    Okay so as my posts last week and earlier this week indicate I’m very much positive about the season coming and back the transfer activity so far and think things are good.

    But I’d be lying if I said I didn’t think there would be another in by the end of this week, not sure what to make of that but let’s see what next week brings.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,063
    I was expecting a new signing before tomorrows game but that's now probably a no goer. Hopefully there's a couple lined up for Monday-Tuesday next week that can then come in next Saturday for the opening game. 
  • mart77
    mart77 Posts: 5,658
    With so many clubs waiting to make their moves it’ll be interesting to see what players have mystery injuries before the opening games of the season. 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,787
    edited July 2021
    @DOUCHER Recent charge sheet (among others less egregious postings for example throwing names out in a wishlist style and/or stating we were never interested in players who end up signing somewhere else)

    - Plymouth have rejected two substantial bids for a striker (Randell?)

    - Josh Sims was offered a chance to train with the squad but we didn't want to sign him (?)

    - Wrexham are paying Paul Mullin 9k/week.

    - two players (winger & striker) set to sign "in conjunction with kit release"


  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,787
    Plymouth have turned down an other from fellow league one side Charlton Athletic for young striker Luke Jephcott fee believed to be 600,000 . Jephcott recently signed a new deal with the club

    Was sent this by my nephew who lives near Plymouth it is a week old now …. 

    Although I did find this gem on page 395. Posted July 19.

    Unfortunately I wasn't able to find a reputable source online.
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 12,001
    60 new posts. More rowing, crap jokes and no rumours.
    Meh. 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,787
    edited July 2021
    Valley11 said:
    60 new posts. More rowing, crap jokes and no rumours.
    Meh. 
    Agree with you. They should keep the rowing on the Olympics thread.

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  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Plymouth have turned down an other from fellow league one side Charlton Athletic for young striker Luke Jephcott fee believed to be 600,000 . Jephcott recently signed a new deal with the club

    Was sent this by my nephew who lives near Plymouth it is a week old now …. 

    Although I did find this gem on page 395. Posted July 19.

    Unfortunately I wasn't able to find a reputable source online.
    I have so far resisted temptation to have a pop at Ronnie. But does he honestly expect us to believe his one week old nephew is sending him genuine rumours!
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,017
    MarcusH26 said:
    There's no way we'd have made a bid for Luke Jephcott and it not have got out somewhere   
    To be fair, he didn’t mention Jephcott by name. 

    It could’ve been for that other Plymouth striker he mentioned last week. Randell was it? 

    Oh he doesn’t exist? Never mind.
    Pretty sure that was Addick59 as well.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    edited July 2021
    Cafc43v3r said:
    FAVADDICK said:
    Edwards is not on trial with us 
    Who says .. ?
    Cawley.

    Who says he is? 
    Cawley was not talking about Edwards but the two Cardiff players linked to us …. 
    Cawley was talking about Edwards. As the tweet was about Edwards! *The two Cardiff players are Sol Bamber and NML, who actually plays for Middlesbrough, or at least last did.   The source of the Bamber and NML rumour, your never guess. 
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,607
    edited July 2021
    I would love to say I was looking forward to a new unveiling at Fulham tomorrow of a good big(ish) signing, but, unfortunately if not tomorrow, we are down to our starting 11 v The Wendies, however we live in hope, and we all know it's the hope that kills you. B)
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    Our starting 11 will be a good way to start the match. I'd be concerned if we didn't play our starting 11.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,092
    From what I hear we are still bidding on players but the other clubs want more than we're offering.

    Now you can spin that as "we're being sensible and not being held to ransom, we'll go back nearer the end of the window and get a lower price"

    Or

    "we're being unrealistic and TS is too tight/skint to spend what's needed to get promotion"

    depending on how full/empty your glass is.
    I know two league one clubs have quoted us ridiculous prices for strikers .. even after we made very good offers ( more then Stockley price ) 

    ************
    A world of fantasy, why do you do it?
    It's very sad.

  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,647
    edited July 2021
    Cafc43v3r said:
    _nam11 said:
    Looking at previous posts...Maybe the reason we have not signed all the other players (that other teams have signed), is because we weren't interested in them, in the first place?

    NA will have a way of playing, a structure. We will therefore buy/loan players who fit into that system. SG will know each player of their strengths and weaknesses, and whether or not they fit into NA's system. 

    All of the players listed on the previous 500 pages...some we all think are good, some are bad. Either way, it doesn't necessarily mean they will be very good/bad for us.

    SG, I would be tasked to find players to suit a way of playing. SG to find the players that fit the system, not find the system once you have recruited a random set of 'good players'.

    If we just 'scatter gun' and bring in quantity, and not quality, this is when you can start accumulating "deadwood" on expensive contracts. All of which, is a waste of money, and isn't sustainable.
    This is spot on, we have missed out on ONE first choice player to a league 1 club.  One we really wanted.  TWO have gone to the championship, both to Birmingham.

    Within 48 hours of knowing we missed out on our 1st choice keeper we moved and got our second choice.  We got our first choice center back in, and had to be imaginative to do so.  We got our 1st choice center forward, despite some, if not all, of the other big clubs wanting him. 
    See, this is very logical and (in my mind) backs up my theory. If we'd been after x,y or z then we would have got them. We weren't....so we didnt. Not saying there isn't a player we are still hoping to do a deal for (Kirk maybe) but TS is not going to push the boat out, despite what he has said over the past 10 months. If the selling club relents at the 11th hour, then great. If not its onto the loan market.

    Well, that's my theory anyway and stacks up because we really haven't been linked with anyone, despite needing a big overhaul of the squad. No leaks from the club....no snippets from those ITK. Even Peter O'Rouke and Alan Nixon have been rather quiet. 
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,092
    Oggy Red said:
    From what I hear we are still bidding on players but the other clubs want more than we're offering.

    Now you can spin that as "we're being sensible and not being held to ransom, we'll go back nearer the end of the window and get a lower price"

    Or

    "we're being unrealistic and TS is too tight/skint to spend what's needed to get promotion"

    depending on how full/empty your glass is.
    I know two league one clubs have quoted us ridiculous prices for strikers .. even after we made very good offers ( more then Stockley price ) 
    No you don’t 
    Yes I do cause I have people who live in Plymouth and it was all over there local news 

    I live within commuting distance of Plymouth, have several Argyle mates ..... and haven't heard anything.


    Don't lie.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,092
    Why do people get so bothered about posters like Ronnie Moore? Just ignore him if you think he’s posting nonsense. Honestly this thread has been a car crash all summer, used to be quite fun checking into the rumours thread in years gone by but its just silly squabbling with no actual rumours. 
    Only one person to blame for that.

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  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,092
    Why do people get so bothered about posters like Ronnie Moore? Just ignore him if you think he’s posting nonsense. Honestly this thread has been a car crash all summer, used to be quite fun checking into the rumours thread in years gone by but its just silly squabbling with no actual rumours. 
    This. He's posting rumours on a rumours thread. And people are getting angry about it. Ffs. If his pists annoy you, ignore them. He 's done nothing to merit some of the shit slung his way.
    but they are not rumours just made up bollocks and then when he says it was in the local Plymouth rag it quite clearly wasn't so more made up bollocks. I'm all for people posting actually rumours/whispers that may have heard from somewhere or other but to come on and just make things up? 
    Also announced that Mullin and Tucker had both signed. There was someone else as well (can't remember who) but when he signed for another club he claimed he'd only posted it as a joke 
    If your going print rubbish get your facts right .. that was not me so I expect an apology don’t expect I get one from
    someone hiding behind a keyboard 
    The irony.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,386
    Cafc43v3r said:
    _nam11 said:
    Looking at previous posts...Maybe the reason we have not signed all the other players (that other teams have signed), is because we weren't interested in them, in the first place?

    NA will have a way of playing, a structure. We will therefore buy/loan players who fit into that system. SG will know each player of their strengths and weaknesses, and whether or not they fit into NA's system. 

    All of the players listed on the previous 500 pages...some we all think are good, some are bad. Either way, it doesn't necessarily mean they will be very good/bad for us.

    SG, I would be tasked to find players to suit a way of playing. SG to find the players that fit the system, not find the system once you have recruited a random set of 'good players'.

    If we just 'scatter gun' and bring in quantity, and not quality, this is when you can start accumulating "deadwood" on expensive contracts. All of which, is a waste of money, and isn't sustainable.
    This is spot on, we have missed out on ONE first choice player to a league 1 club.  One we really wanted.  TWO have gone to the championship, both to Birmingham.

    Within 48 hours of knowing we missed out on our 1st choice keeper we moved and got our second choice.  We got our first choice center back in, and had to be imaginative to do so.  We got our 1st choice center forward, despite some, if not all, of the other big clubs wanting him. 
    See, this is very logical and (in my mind) backs up my theory. If we'd been after x,y or z then we would have got them. We weren't....so we didnt. Not saying there isn't a player we are still hoping to do a deal for (Kirk maybe) but TS is not going to push the boat out, despite what he has said over the past 10 months. If the selling club relents at the 11th hour, then great. If not its onto the loan market.

    Well, that's my theory anyway and stacks up because we really haven't been linked with anyone, despite needing a big overhaul of the squad. No leaks from the club....no snippets from those ITK. Even Peter O'Rouke and Alan Nixon have been rather quiet. 
    How soon before we signed Famewo, Clare and Dobson were we linked with them in the media (not counting fans speculating about Famewo)? I’m sure it was either hours or a few days at most. Only Stockley and CM were linked weeks before we signed them.

    A lack of media speculation isn’t proof we’re not trying to sign players (and yes it isn’t proof we are either).
  • bolloxbolder
    bolloxbolder Posts: 7,964
    I've heard we will get at least 2 Loans in by 31August. 

    Source Ronnie Moore/addick59
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    I've heard we will get at least 2 Loans in by 31August. 

    Source Ronnie Moore/addick59
    Do you know how they know? It’s because there are the 2 loan signings. Ronnie Moore is coming in from Plymouth. 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,814
    Scoham said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    _nam11 said:
    Looking at previous posts...Maybe the reason we have not signed all the other players (that other teams have signed), is because we weren't interested in them, in the first place?

    NA will have a way of playing, a structure. We will therefore buy/loan players who fit into that system. SG will know each player of their strengths and weaknesses, and whether or not they fit into NA's system. 

    All of the players listed on the previous 500 pages...some we all think are good, some are bad. Either way, it doesn't necessarily mean they will be very good/bad for us.

    SG, I would be tasked to find players to suit a way of playing. SG to find the players that fit the system, not find the system once you have recruited a random set of 'good players'.

    If we just 'scatter gun' and bring in quantity, and not quality, this is when you can start accumulating "deadwood" on expensive contracts. All of which, is a waste of money, and isn't sustainable.
    This is spot on, we have missed out on ONE first choice player to a league 1 club.  One we really wanted.  TWO have gone to the championship, both to Birmingham.

    Within 48 hours of knowing we missed out on our 1st choice keeper we moved and got our second choice.  We got our first choice center back in, and had to be imaginative to do so.  We got our 1st choice center forward, despite some, if not all, of the other big clubs wanting him. 
    See, this is very logical and (in my mind) backs up my theory. If we'd been after x,y or z then we would have got them. We weren't....so we didnt. Not saying there isn't a player we are still hoping to do a deal for (Kirk maybe) but TS is not going to push the boat out, despite what he has said over the past 10 months. If the selling club relents at the 11th hour, then great. If not its onto the loan market.

    Well, that's my theory anyway and stacks up because we really haven't been linked with anyone, despite needing a big overhaul of the squad. No leaks from the club....no snippets from those ITK. Even Peter O'Rouke and Alan Nixon have been rather quiet. 
    How soon before we signed Famewo, Clare and Dobson were we linked with them in the media (not counting fans speculating about Famewo)? I’m sure it was either hours or a few days at most. Only Stockley and CM were linked weeks before we signed them.

    A lack of media speculation isn’t proof we’re not trying to sign players (and yes it isn’t proof we are either).
    I suggested a few weeks ago that the new regime and management weren't as cosy with the media as previous ones specifically in relation to our targets. There were a number of reasons why the former outfit wanted us to believe that we were after x, y and z even though we were never in the hunt for them and as many reasons why the new one does not want such information leaked until the deal is more or less done.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,889
    We desperately need an attacking left back to provide width down the left hand side, if we are going to play Washington as a left sided attacker, as he's not a winger. His natural game is cut inside onto his right foot, and needs an overlapping full back to create some space for him
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,386
    Scoham said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    _nam11 said:
    Looking at previous posts...Maybe the reason we have not signed all the other players (that other teams have signed), is because we weren't interested in them, in the first place?

    NA will have a way of playing, a structure. We will therefore buy/loan players who fit into that system. SG will know each player of their strengths and weaknesses, and whether or not they fit into NA's system. 

    All of the players listed on the previous 500 pages...some we all think are good, some are bad. Either way, it doesn't necessarily mean they will be very good/bad for us.

    SG, I would be tasked to find players to suit a way of playing. SG to find the players that fit the system, not find the system once you have recruited a random set of 'good players'.

    If we just 'scatter gun' and bring in quantity, and not quality, this is when you can start accumulating "deadwood" on expensive contracts. All of which, is a waste of money, and isn't sustainable.
    This is spot on, we have missed out on ONE first choice player to a league 1 club.  One we really wanted.  TWO have gone to the championship, both to Birmingham.

    Within 48 hours of knowing we missed out on our 1st choice keeper we moved and got our second choice.  We got our first choice center back in, and had to be imaginative to do so.  We got our 1st choice center forward, despite some, if not all, of the other big clubs wanting him. 
    See, this is very logical and (in my mind) backs up my theory. If we'd been after x,y or z then we would have got them. We weren't....so we didnt. Not saying there isn't a player we are still hoping to do a deal for (Kirk maybe) but TS is not going to push the boat out, despite what he has said over the past 10 months. If the selling club relents at the 11th hour, then great. If not its onto the loan market.

    Well, that's my theory anyway and stacks up because we really haven't been linked with anyone, despite needing a big overhaul of the squad. No leaks from the club....no snippets from those ITK. Even Peter O'Rouke and Alan Nixon have been rather quiet. 
    How soon before we signed Famewo, Clare and Dobson were we linked with them in the media (not counting fans speculating about Famewo)? I’m sure it was either hours or a few days at most. Only Stockley and CM were linked weeks before we signed them.

    A lack of media speculation isn’t proof we’re not trying to sign players (and yes it isn’t proof we are either).
    I suggested a few weeks ago that the new regime and management weren't as cosy with the media as previous ones specifically in relation to our targets. There were a number of reasons why the former outfit wanted us to believe that we were after x, y and z even though we were never in the hunt for them and as many reasons why the new one does not want such information leaked until the deal is more or less done.
    There might be truth in that but we’re not even seeing much speculation coming out from other clubs, e.g. SLP equivalent for the clubs we’re making offers to, or agents via Peter O’Rourke. You’d think that would be out of our control.
  • AppyAddick
    AppyAddick Posts: 1,475
    Just heard from two blokes slugging it out in Macro car park that we are going to announce Ronnie Moore on Monday. 
  • Why do people get so bothered about posters like Ronnie Moore? Just ignore him if you think he’s posting nonsense. Honestly this thread has been a car crash all summer, used to be quite fun checking into the rumours thread in years gone by but its just silly squabbling with no actual rumours. 
    This. He's posting rumours on a rumours thread. And people are getting angry about it. Ffs. If his pists annoy you, ignore them. He 's done nothing to merit some of the shit slung his way.
    but they are not rumours just made up bollocks and then when he says it was in the local Plymouth rag it quite clearly wasn't so more made up bollocks. I'm all for people posting actually rumours/whispers that may have heard from somewhere or other but to come on and just make things up? 
    Also announced that Mullin and Tucker had both signed. There was someone else as well (can't remember who) but when he signed for another club he claimed he'd only posted it as a joke 
    If your going print rubbish get your facts right .. that was not me so I expect an apology don’t expect I get one from
    someone hiding behind a keyboard 
    Ha ha an ironic post coming from you, but yes ok i realise it wasn't you so my apologies for saying you did.

    Looking forward to you posting the links to the reports about the 2 strikers we made substantial bid for. I'll probably be waiting a while.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,647
    We desperately need an attacking left back to provide width down the left hand side, if we are going to play Washington as a left sided attacker, as he's not a winger. His natural game is cut inside onto his right foot, and needs an overlapping full back to create some space for him
    We shouldn't be going into the start of a new season without a LB or an another winger. We needed cover for Purrington before he got injured......its now twice as important. Also, relying on Washington to play "wide" or trying to use Claydon as the other winger is just asking for trouble imo. 

    I will be giving my full verdict/opinion on the squad next Friday in the match preview thread. Hoping by then we would have at least filled 1 of these issues.
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