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  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,470
    So anyway lets move on from Ipswich. 


    Why haven't we signed Gomes yet? Feels like something would have come out about this, he's been with us for a while getting minutes. 

    Would end up looking a bit stupid if he just leaves us for another League One team. 
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    I'm taking my money out of premium bonds. It's all on Ipswich. Comfortable retirement, here I come!
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,018
    This Ipswich thing is getting fcking tiring now, has anyone said they'll deff be top 2? Has anyone said their starting 11 is going sh!t all over league 1 and beyond?


    Or have people just been saying that they're building a strong SQUAD, with options, like, having 2 solid league 1 strikers on the bench? 

    It is very tiring and yes a few have said Ipswich are nailed on Champions already and plenty have said they are already up.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,460
    So anyway lets move on from Ipswich. 


    Why haven't we signed Gomes yet? Feels like something would have come out about this, he's been with us for a while getting minutes. 

    Would end up looking a bit stupid if he just leaves us for another League One team. 
    Adkins sounded very indecisive about him on Tuesday night

    Said he'd give him more minutes against Fulham today (which happened) and that it was difficult for a player to go in somewhere on trial - His words at that time didnt sound like we were close to a decision so be curious to see if that opinion has changed from the Management team
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,004
    Ipswich all the rage on here of late and they have had what looks like a good window, but they’re starting either Bonne and Pigott up top today, are we really envious of that, really?!
    It. Is. A. Friendly.
    One. Week. Before. Seasons. Starts. Teams. Usually. Start. Their. Best. XI
    They have  Edmundson, Chaplin and Fraser not in the squad. 

    Ipswich have Pigott, Bonne, Chaplin, Jackson and Norwood as potential strikers. I'm sure they'll be fine. 
    Good for them five strikers none of which id swap for Stockers 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
    Maybe not but I would take any of them instead of Davison frankly. 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,794
    Oxford sign Gavin Whyte and Nathan Holland on loan. Two wingers I wouldn’t have minded seeing in SE7.
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,470



    We need another striker in if this is the manager's opinion. Clearly Schwartz should be pointed to the door at this point. 



  • We need another striker in if this is the manager's opinion. Clearly Schwartz should be pointed to the door at this point. 
    I think 2 if he goes ! we still need to replace chuks plus a winger/striker wld be ideal if ronnie goes to cover 2 positions needed abit like a leko
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,064



    We need another striker in if this is the manager's opinion. Clearly Schwartz should be pointed to the door at this point. 
    I think 2 if he goes ! we still need to replace chuks plus a winger/striker wld be ideal if ronnie goes to cover 2 positions needed abit like a leko
    Would agree with this , a Leko type that can be a third winger and also cover up top if needed. 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Oxford sign Gavin Whyte and Nathan Holland on loan. Two wingers I wouldn’t have minded seeing in SE7.
    Honestly have never heard of either of them, I doubt it's a massive loss not getting them looking at their wikies. 

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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,460
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Oxford sign Gavin Whyte and Nathan Holland on loan. Two wingers I wouldn’t have minded seeing in SE7.
    Honestly have never heard of either of them, I doubt it's a massive loss not getting them looking at their wikies. 
    Gavin Whyte played for them previously before going to Cardiff - He scored a cracker for them against us at the Valley in a 1-1 draw
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,470
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Oxford sign Gavin Whyte and Nathan Holland on loan. Two wingers I wouldn’t have minded seeing in SE7.
    Honestly have never heard of either of them, I doubt it's a massive loss not getting them looking at their wikies. 
    Gavin Whyte won League One with Hull last season. 

    Nathan Holland was on loan at Oxford last season so clearly they liked the look of him to get him back for this one. 
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,408
    edited July 2021
    Are we backing NA in the transfer market? 

    Just something does not seem right to me at the moment. You don't bring in an experienced and proven manager like him, get everybody on board about a huge rebuild. We have 3 "Senior" pros in Ronnie, Gilbey and Watson who have hardly played any pre-season minutes, let alone the new boys. The AMB situation still looms. 

    One thing NA wanted at the end of last season - to replace squad players with first team players and reduce the average age of the team. Recently Gallen mentioned how we might bring in some experienced players to help for a season or two. We might have grossly misread and understood the transfer market this season. I feel we have.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Oxford sign Gavin Whyte and Nathan Holland on loan. Two wingers I wouldn’t have minded seeing in SE7.
    Honestly have never heard of either of them, I doubt it's a massive loss not getting them looking at their wikies. 
    Gavin Whyte won League One with Hull last season. 

    Nathan Holland was on loan at Oxford last season so clearly they liked the look of him to get him back for this one. 
    Is missed Gavin Whyte's loan at Hull so didn't think it was the same player.  I remember seeing him a couple of times, he is okish.  I still think we will do better. 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    mendonca said:
    Are we backing NA in the transfer market? 

    Just something does not seem right to me at the moment. You don't bring in an experienced and proven manager like him, get everybody on board about a huge rebuild. We have 3 "Senior" pros in Ronnie, Gilbey and Watson who have hardly played any pre-season minutes, let alone the new boys. The AMB situation still looms. 

    One thing NA wanted at the end of last season - to replace squad players with first team players and reduce the average age of the team. Recently Gallen mentioned how we might bring in some experienced players to help for a season or two. We might have grossly misread and understood the transfer market this season. I feel we have.
    The massive rebuild is a "fan thing".  It was obvious from the retained list it was never going to be what some hoped. 
  • mendonca said:
    Are we backing NA in the transfer market? 

    Just something does not seem right to me at the moment. You don't bring in an experienced and proven manager like him, get everybody on board about a huge rebuild. We have 3 "Senior" pros in Ronnie, Gilbey and Watson who have hardly played any pre-season minutes, let alone the new boys. The AMB situation still looms. 

    One thing NA wanted at the end of last season - to replace squad players with first team players and reduce the average age of the team. Recently Gallen mentioned how we might bring in some experienced players to help for a season or two. We might have grossly misread and understood the transfer market this season. I feel we have.
    Gilbey and Watson both got covid. Gilbey was suffering quite badly going by his twitter post a couple of weeks ago. Schwartz got married and then had to quarantine so hasn't been in pre-season training for long.
  • mendonca said:
    Are we backing NA in the transfer market? 

    Just something does not seem right to me at the moment. You don't bring in an experienced and proven manager like him, get everybody on board about a huge rebuild. We have 3 "Senior" pros in Ronnie, Gilbey and Watson who have hardly played any pre-season minutes, let alone the new boys. The AMB situation still looms. 

    One thing NA wanted at the end of last season - to replace squad players with first team players and reduce the average age of the team. Recently Gallen mentioned how we might bring in some experienced players to help for a season or two. We might have grossly misread and understood the transfer market this season. I feel we have.

    I think we are very unprepared and weaker than how we ended the season.


  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 5,912
    mendonca said:
    Are we backing NA in the transfer market? 

    Just something does not seem right to me at the moment. You don't bring in an experienced and proven manager like him, get everybody on board about a huge rebuild. We have 3 "Senior" pros in Ronnie, Gilbey and Watson who have hardly played any pre-season minutes, let alone the new boys. The AMB situation still looms. 

    One thing NA wanted at the end of last season - to replace squad players with first team players and reduce the average age of the team. Recently Gallen mentioned how we might bring in some experienced players to help for a season or two. We might have grossly misread and understood the transfer market this season. I feel we have.
    I'm sure we have misread what the market was going to be like this year. I think most clubs have.
    Although if you look at the investment that has already been made in terms of management structure I.e. Commercial Manager, GED Roddy, I cant see the new structure being cheap, not a chance TS will think he can maintain his proposed club development by staying in league one. Sooner or later he will have to splash out or rethink his plans. No point in having plans that have no chance of fruition. League One clubs dont attract very many international fans
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,408
    mendonca said:
    Are we backing NA in the transfer market? 

    Just something does not seem right to me at the moment. You don't bring in an experienced and proven manager like him, get everybody on board about a huge rebuild. We have 3 "Senior" pros in Ronnie, Gilbey and Watson who have hardly played any pre-season minutes, let alone the new boys. The AMB situation still looms. 

    One thing NA wanted at the end of last season - to replace squad players with first team players and reduce the average age of the team. Recently Gallen mentioned how we might bring in some experienced players to help for a season or two. We might have grossly misread and understood the transfer market this season. I feel we have.
    Gilbey and Watson both got covid. Gilbey was suffering quite badly going by his twitter post a couple of weeks ago. Schwartz got married and then had to quarantine so hasn't been in pre-season training for long.
    Completely understand and agree. Am just pointing out the minutes played in pre-season.
  • Jac_52
    Jac_52 Posts: 1,460
    mendonca said:
    Are we backing NA in the transfer market? 

    Just something does not seem right to me at the moment. You don't bring in an experienced and proven manager like him, get everybody on board about a huge rebuild. We have 3 "Senior" pros in Ronnie, Gilbey and Watson who have hardly played any pre-season minutes, let alone the new boys. The AMB situation still looms. 

    One thing NA wanted at the end of last season - to replace squad players with first team players and reduce the average age of the team. Recently Gallen mentioned how we might bring in some experienced players to help for a season or two. We might have grossly misread and understood the transfer market this season. I feel we have.

    I think we are very unprepared and weaker than how we ended the season.



    I think we're very prepared in terms of the actual football. I also don't think we're really weaker than last year. Our midfield is such a huge upgrade already in terms of mobility and playing style, we're just severely lacking depth.

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  • Jac_52 said:
    mendonca said:
    Are we backing NA in the transfer market? 

    Just something does not seem right to me at the moment. You don't bring in an experienced and proven manager like him, get everybody on board about a huge rebuild. We have 3 "Senior" pros in Ronnie, Gilbey and Watson who have hardly played any pre-season minutes, let alone the new boys. The AMB situation still looms. 

    One thing NA wanted at the end of last season - to replace squad players with first team players and reduce the average age of the team. Recently Gallen mentioned how we might bring in some experienced players to help for a season or two. We might have grossly misread and understood the transfer market this season. I feel we have.

    I think we are very unprepared and weaker than how we ended the season.



    I think we're very prepared in terms of the actual football. I also don't think we're really weaker than last year. Our midfield is such a huge upgrade already in terms of mobility and playing style, we're just severely lacking depth.

    Hope you're right mate and hope we have less injuries than we seemed to have past few years as the lack of depth really concerns me.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,738
    A young midfield is a big upgrade. We could have played a more dynamic one last year but Bowyer was afraid to as he probably didn't trust the defence.
  • Jac_52
    Jac_52 Posts: 1,460
    Jac_52 said:
    mendonca said:
    Are we backing NA in the transfer market? 

    Just something does not seem right to me at the moment. You don't bring in an experienced and proven manager like him, get everybody on board about a huge rebuild. We have 3 "Senior" pros in Ronnie, Gilbey and Watson who have hardly played any pre-season minutes, let alone the new boys. The AMB situation still looms. 

    One thing NA wanted at the end of last season - to replace squad players with first team players and reduce the average age of the team. Recently Gallen mentioned how we might bring in some experienced players to help for a season or two. We might have grossly misread and understood the transfer market this season. I feel we have.

    I think we are very unprepared and weaker than how we ended the season.



    I think we're very prepared in terms of the actual football. I also don't think we're really weaker than last year. Our midfield is such a huge upgrade already in terms of mobility and playing style, we're just severely lacking depth.

    Hope you're right mate and hope we have less injuries than we seemed to have past few years as the lack of depth really concerns me.

    Think we'll be ok for the first game but yeah if we start picking up injuries early things won't be looking good. We'll almost certainly be bringing in loans at some point and given how long we're waiting to do that they better be bloody good ones!
  • Red_Chester
    Red_Chester Posts: 746
    NA has said we have put bids in for players but doesn’t state if accepted or rejected. 
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,761
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    “As we got closer to the season and maybe players aren’t fixed up with clubs or players aren’t featuring in teams, or clubs are prepared to lower their valuation for players with the transfer fees for example, there might be a bit more change with clubs and personnel."

    Who would have thought it.  Adkins, Cowley and even that muppet Johnson have all said it now. 
  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,212
    thenewbie said:
    Ipswich all the rage on here of late and they have had what looks like a good window, but they’re starting either Bonne and Pigott up top today, are we really envious of that, really?!
    It. Is. A. Friendly.
    One. Week. Before. Seasons. Starts. Teams. Usually. Start. Their. Best. XI
    They have  Edmundson, Chaplin and Fraser not in the squad. 

    Ipswich have Pigott, Bonne, Chaplin, Jackson and Norwood as potential strikers. I'm sure they'll be fine. 
    Good for them five strikers none of which id swap for Stockers 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
    Maybe not but I would take any of them instead of Davison frankly. 
    Based on?  I’ve seen him play twice when he was 19, you?  Davison is an untried and untested improving kid that our new manager deemed too good to loan out, you might be right, but you might wrong.
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