What on earth is that karate with an imaginary opponent all about? 😳
Seriously?
Wow I can’t believe what I’ve just seen. It’s like when your little 4 year old niece says “uncle Gary, uncle Gary, uncle Gary….watch this” and then does a shitty little spinning jump.
Can only think they’ve let that in cos it’s in Japan. A one and only appearance I hope.
Been a frustrating Olympics. We’ve only one working telly at the mo between 4 of us, and as I rank 4th for anything in this house I’ve had to watch the whole lot on IPlayer on an iPad.
What on earth is that karate with an imaginary opponent all about? 😳
Seriously?
Wow I can’t believe what I’ve just seen. It’s like when your little 4 year old niece says “uncle Gary, uncle Gary, uncle Gary….watch this” and then does a shitty little spinning jump.
Can only think they’ve let that in cos it’s in Japan. A one and only appearance I hope.
I found it hilarious when they kept going to close ups of their angry face 👀😳🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Yeah, you show that imaginary bad man what for 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
What on earth is that karate with an imaginary opponent all about? 😳
Seriously?
I'll try and answer this as a karate practitioner and leap to its defence (with lots of waffling). Kata, the collection of movements being demonstrated, has always been an integral part of karate practice. Several of these forms exist as a recording of information through physical movement, and were predominately created to record the fighting methods of a given individual (whose name is usually given to the name of the kata). They are a physical solo template, consisting of combative motions, created to record the key principles of a given fighting system so that those principles can be passed on to subsequent generations.
As an example (using a variant of the form I think both competitors used in the final earlier), there is a kata called Kushanku. There was a Chinese official who went by the title of Kushanku and one of his students was a man called Sakugawa, who created the kata of the same name. Kushanku kata records the fighting system that Kushanku (the man) taught to Sakugawa, which Sakugawa used to practice Kushaku’s teachings when training on his own. The kata records techniques that illustrate the key principles of Kushaku’s teachings and through the practise of these techniques a student could identify these key principles and therefore practise a wide variety of methods that expressed those principles.
As for how we've ended up in this position with people jumping and spinning about to win medals. In the mid 1930's karate was introduced to mainland Japan in an attempt to gain national recognition from Japan's leading martial arts association. Karate was granted national recognition on a few conditions. The Japanese insisted that karate develop a unified teaching curriculum, adopt a standard training uniform (which they borrowed from Judo), introduce a ranking system (which they borrowed from Judo), develop a system of competition and reduce the amount of violence in the methods the practitioners used. The introduction of a competition element and of the grading system eventually resulted in many students caring more how their kata looked in order to win competitions and pass gradings (the kumite part of karate in the Olympics is a whole other monster).
This "fighting an imaginary opponent" description seems to have creeped in somewhere, not helped by the BBC using that as a description when presenting it. That's not what it is about at all. The changes karate went through (which, in fairness, were vital for the survival and spread of karate) have resulted in the combative applications of the kata being obscured and for many completely forgotten about.
Been a frustrating Olympics. We’ve only one working telly at the mo between 4 of us, and as I rank 4th for anything in this house I’ve had to watch the whole lot on IPlayer on an iPad.
You've got three years. Get training, raise your ranking. You can do it!
PS. Might be an idea to apply for Lottery funding?
Been a frustrating Olympics. We’ve only one working telly at the mo between 4 of us, and as I rank 4th for anything in this house I’ve had to watch the whole lot on IPlayer on an iPad.
What on earth are the rest of your family finding to watch, if the Olympics ranks 4th
Been a frustrating Olympics. We’ve only one working telly at the mo between 4 of us, and as I rank 4th for anything in this house I’ve had to watch the whole lot on IPlayer on an iPad.
What on earth are the rest of your family finding to watch, if the Olympics ranks 4th
What on earth is that karate with an imaginary opponent all about? 😳
Seriously?
Wow I can’t believe what I’ve just seen. It’s like when your little 4 year old niece says “uncle Gary, uncle Gary, uncle Gary….watch this” and then does a shitty little spinning jump.
Can only think they’ve let that in cos it’s in Japan. A one and only appearance I hope.
Pretty sure it's been dropped from future Olympics
Yeah we need to replace the leadership there and in women's football. Worst USA track and field Olympics for us I can remember.
Michael Johnson made some good points on BBC. Was saying the collegiate funding has decreased and T&F not bringing in the revenue that football and basketball does, they’re the first to feel the pinch. He also said there’s no actual real excuse for how poor the experienced athletes have performed.
Yeah we need to replace the leadership there and in women's football. Worst USA track and field Olympics for us I can remember.
Michael Johnson made some good points on BBC. Was saying the collegiate funding has decreased and T&F not bringing in the revenue that football and basketball does, they’re the first to feel the pinch. He also said there’s no actual real excuse for how poor the experienced athletes have performed.
And British athletics has (so far) also underperformed, 19th (or something like that) in the medal table
Needed that, Athletics not going well but been a good day. Three men through to the 1500m final with an outside chance of a medal and good chances of medals in both 4x100 relays.
Luxembourg’s Grethen beat his own national record by 4 seconds to reach the final of the men’s 1500. I expect him to come last in the final now!
Yeah we need to replace the leadership there and in women's football. Worst USA track and field Olympics for us I can remember.
Michael Johnson made some good points on BBC. Was saying the collegiate funding has decreased and T&F not bringing in the revenue that football and basketball does, they’re the first to feel the pinch. He also said there’s no actual real excuse for how poor the experienced athletes have performed.
You’ll know this better then me, but Big10 colleges for example make the money through American Football and Basketball, be that tickets or sponsors, and the crumbs drop down, suspect Lacrosse and Football are now above Track and Field in that chasing the crumbs
4 seconds off a 1500 distance is ridiculous. So much distrust in athletics now
I just assume in every event some if not most of them are either bending or breaking the rules. Then if someone else is significantly better I am almost certain they are.
The "cleanest games in history" actually turned out to be the dirtiest.
4 seconds off a 1500 distance is ridiculous. So much distrust in athletics now
if you eliminate illegal medication, modern running shoes and track technology has and will continue to make life better for runners .. allied with more intense scientific based coaching to improve running methods, posture and stride patterns etc.. expect to see times get faster and faster until the (as yet unknown) absolute optimum performance is reached ..
EDIT .. and don't forget strictly controlled diet and exercise/training regimes
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Seriously?
https://www.eurosport.com/karate/tokyo-2020/2021/highlights-sport-clip-day-13-karate-womens-kata_vid1522546/video.shtml
Yeah, you show that imaginary bad man what for 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I'll try and answer this as a karate practitioner and leap to its defence (with lots of waffling). Kata, the collection of movements being demonstrated, has always been an integral part of karate practice. Several of these forms exist as a recording of information through physical movement, and were predominately created to record the fighting methods of a given individual (whose name is usually given to the name of the kata). They are a physical solo template, consisting of combative motions, created to record the key principles of a given fighting system so that those principles can be passed on to subsequent generations.
As an example (using a variant of the form I think both competitors used in the final earlier), there is a kata called Kushanku. There was a Chinese official who went by the title of Kushanku and one of his students was a man called Sakugawa, who created the kata of the same name. Kushanku kata records the fighting system that Kushanku (the man) taught to Sakugawa, which Sakugawa used to practice Kushaku’s teachings when training on his own. The kata records techniques that illustrate the key principles of Kushaku’s teachings and through the practise of these techniques a student could identify these key principles and therefore practise a wide variety of methods that expressed those principles.
As for how we've ended up in this position with people jumping and spinning about to win medals. In the mid 1930's karate was introduced to mainland Japan in an attempt to gain national recognition from Japan's leading martial arts association. Karate was granted national recognition on a few conditions. The Japanese insisted that karate develop a unified teaching curriculum, adopt a standard training uniform (which they borrowed from Judo), introduce a ranking system (which they borrowed from Judo), develop a system of competition and reduce the amount of violence in the methods the practitioners used. The introduction of a competition element and of the grading system eventually resulted in many students caring more how their kata looked in order to win competitions and pass gradings (the kumite part of karate in the Olympics is a whole other monster).
This "fighting an imaginary opponent" description seems to have creeped in somewhere, not helped by the BBC using that as a description when presenting it. That's not what it is about at all. The changes karate went through (which, in fairness, were vital for the survival and spread of karate) have resulted in the combative applications of the kata being obscured and for many completely forgotten about.
Get training, raise your ranking.
You can do it!
PS. Might be an idea to apply for Lottery funding?
I can’t help but giggle at it though, sorry 🙏🏻❤️
Yeah we need to replace the leadership there and in women's football. Worst USA track and field Olympics for us I can remember.
I expect him to come last in the final now!
The "cleanest games in history" actually turned out to be the dirtiest.
EDIT .. and don't forget strictly controlled diet and exercise/training regimes