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Post-match thread: Oxford v Charlton | 14th Aug 2021

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  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,071
    Early days but this squad is worse than last seasons. Midfield needs 2 new starters not including Gilbey otherwise it's going to be a slog 
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,039
    Bilko said:
    Can’t wait to hear Mr Motivators spin on this one.
    But your p*** take of his methods will be good for the future.
    Or would you rather have somebody with a negative attitude?
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,446
    Bubble said:
    Absolutely baffling that they released Shinnie after watching that
    Adkins is a good manager, but if he would rather Clare in the side than Shinnie, he has a massive blind spot.
    I don't think it was an Adkins decision. 

    'The recruitment team' took one look at Shinnie's age, Morgan's age and then released him. 
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,007
    As I said before we signed Kirk.
    If we don't get in any more players we will be fighting relegation.

    The 11 out there might get you to about 10th with no injuries.

    But we will have about 3 out injured all season & if they are replaced by the likes of Clayden & Roddy we will do well to stay up.

    We desperately need to sign/loan 4 or more first teamers and if we don't..... 
  • CAFCTrev
    CAFCTrev Posts: 5,978
    Sandgaard forgot to mention that premier league in 5 years includes 3 in league 1.
  • charlton_hero
    charlton_hero Posts: 4,665
    Early days but this squad is worse than last seasons. Midfield needs 2 new starters not including Gilbey otherwise it's going to be a slog 
    Think we'll be lucky to get one what with JFC due back in Jan.
  • mart77
    mart77 Posts: 5,658
    At the game. Deserved nothing, got nothing. No Plan B whatsoever. Still an incredible lack of creativity and movement. We have a hard working team but we really lack any quality going forward. Once Stockley was booked we were always going to find it even harder. Thought we looked sluggish at times and Ox looked peppier than us throughout. 
    Was even more disappointing as I didn’t think Oxford were very good. 

    We desperately need at least 4/5 players of real quality or we’ll struggle to make the play offs. 

    Onward to Franchise FC!

  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,278
    edited August 2021
    Chunes said:
    I feel for Adkins. He said he wanted his squad sorted before pre-season started, and it's not even sorted two games into the season.
    And it still won’t be sorted 5 league games into the season.
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  • WHAddick
    WHAddick Posts: 1,153
    Drop Morgan, put Washington in the centre and Kirk left wing for Tuesday. Only saving grace is that the all conquering (according to some) Ipswich are on the same points and GD as us!!
    Agreed Red. This seems like a good change with the personnel we have.

  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,348
    not a good start to the season, BUT so far we have played against 2 goodish sides and today's match stats indicate that we held our own EXCEPT in the most vital area scoring goals .. yes I know that stats are akin to lies and damned lies 
    Tuesday's game at MK will tell us a lot more about what is going on .. remember y'all this is a LONG season 2 down 44 to go .. at least we are level with the so far stuck in the mud tractor boys ((:>)
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,039
    F*** me, all this nonsense after two league games.
    If we had won 3-0 today the very same people slagging things off would have been singing a different tune. Get a grip. 
    As SeriouslyRidiculous could say, "let's see where we are after 15 games".
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,446
    F*** me, all this nonsense after two league games.
    If we had won 3-0 today the very same people slagging things off would have been singing a different tune. Get a grip. 
    As SeriouslyRidiculous could say, "let's see where we are after 15 games".
    But we didn't because we cannot score in open play. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    The most disappointing thing is how predictable we are. Our full backs don’t like going forward, our striker is isolated, our wingers don’t get the ball enough and our midfield is only there to try and prevent the other team playing. So we just lump it. 

    The recruitment hasn’t been what we thought it would be, whether that’s down to lack of budget, a strange market or whatever, but Adkins needs to pull his finger out his arse by either changing the formation or at least encouraging the players we do have to attempt to play. We know League One players are limited, but we just got played off the park by Oxford ffs.
    A non goal scoring midfield, combined with defensive full backs, so it's hardly surprising we look toothless and predictable.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,039
    Also people talking about writing off the season already is crazy.

    Look at Blackpool last season, 4 points from their first 7 games, 27 points from 21 games.......and finished the season 3rd.
    Sanity to this thread.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,729
    The most disappointing thing is how predictable we are. Our full backs don’t like going forward, our striker is isolated, our wingers don’t get the ball enough and our midfield is only there to try and prevent the other team playing. So we just lump it. 

    The recruitment hasn’t been what we thought it would be, whether that’s down to lack of budget, a strange market or whatever, but Adkins needs to pull his finger out his arse by either changing the formation or at least encouraging the players we do have to attempt to play. We know League One players are limited, but we just got played off the park by Oxford ffs.
    A non goal scoring midfield, combined with defensive full backs, so it's hardly surprising we look toothless and predictable.
    I think you have identified the problem. It is solvable but the deficiencies have to be accepted to be addressed.
  • ElliotCAFC
    ElliotCAFC Posts: 2,552
    not a good start to the season, BUT so far we have played against 2 goodish sides and today's match stats indicate that we held our own EXCEPT in the most vital area scoring goals .. yes I know that stats are akin to lies and damned lies 
    Tuesday's game at MK will tell us a lot more about what is going on .. remember y'all this is a LONG season 2 down 44 to go .. at least we are level with the so far stuck in the mud tractor boys ((:>)
    There tends to be more space to operate in against the better footballing sides. 

    I dread to imagine this team trying to break down Accrington Stanley or Burton Albion. If anything, we’ll get even less joy from our long balls.
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,985
    Also people talking about writing off the season already is crazy.

    Look at Blackpool last season, 4 points from their first 7 games, 27 points from 21 games.......and finished the season 3rd.
    Sanity to this thread.
    No one is writing off the season ffs. They’re saying there are concerning signs to this team. Lack of depth, no attacking threat (one pen from three games). It’s perfectly acceptable to be discussing this on a Charlton forum. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,628
    Drop Morgan, put Washington in the centre and Kirk left wing for Tuesday. Only saving grace is that the all conquering (according to some) Ipswich are on the same points and GD as us!!
    At least Ipswich have players they can bring in if the first 11 aren't winning. Look at our bench today. More akin to a struggling club with no resources or have just come out of administration. Davison & Claydon aren't the answer when you are 2-1 down and chasing a game.
     
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  • ct_addick
    ct_addick Posts: 4,333
    All well and good waiting for bargains on the recruitment front but the squad should have been sorted weeks ago to mount a challenge…whomever we bring in will take weeks to settle….poor poor strategy 
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,729
    loans?
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,348
    not a good start to the season, BUT so far we have played against 2 goodish sides and today's match stats indicate that we held our own EXCEPT in the most vital area scoring goals .. yes I know that stats are akin to lies and damned lies 
    Tuesday's game at MK will tell us a lot more about what is going on .. remember y'all this is a LONG season 2 down 44 to go .. at least we are level with the so far stuck in the mud tractor boys ((:>)
    There tends to be more space to operate in against the better footballing sides. 

    I dread to imagine this team trying to break down Accrington Stanley or Burton Albion. If anything, we’ll get even less joy from our long balls.
    well hopefully (a word I dislike using as it implies lack of a plan lol) Kirk will add a lot of width to the attack with Gilbey (where IS he ?) in midfield supplying some go forward and accurate passing .. there is a BIG need for a nippy little goal poacher to feed off crosses and knock downs .. thing is, every club in the division is looking for such a player, where are they ? and how much ?
  • F*** me, all this nonsense after two league games.
    If we had won 3-0 today the very same people slagging things off would have been singing a different tune. Get a grip. 
    As SeriouslyRidiculous could say, "let's see where we are after 15 games".
    Genuine question - do you believe the squad we started last season with is stronger or weaker than this squad?
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,985
    Drop Morgan, put Washington in the centre and Kirk left wing for Tuesday. Only saving grace is that the all conquering (according to some) Ipswich are on the same points and GD as us!!
    At least Ipswich have players they can bring in if the first 11 aren't winning. Look at our bench today. More akin to a struggling club with no resources or have just come out of administration. Davison & Claydon aren't the answer when you are 2-1 down and chasing a game.
     
    This is accurate. The bench looks like a struggling club. Why is it taking so long to bring in players? Yes, judge it when the window closes but we will be going some between now and then to get in the required number of players.
  • Agree with most points re long season & route 1 ball. Steve Brown called that out as bad idea on stream. Adkins does know how to get creative, passing football out of players but are this lot up to it? I think they need more time to gel, we can only hope.
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,001
    F*** me, all this nonsense after two league games.
    If we had won 3-0 today the very same people slagging things off would have been singing a different tune. Get a grip. 
    As SeriouslyRidiculous could say, "let's see where we are after 15 games".
    True as far as it goes but on current evidence it's not like we're carving out chances and need a bit of luck to finally start scoring. Plan A is very much long ball football and there is no depth to provide a plan B. That's not negative - that's factual. The bench is almost entirely either over thirty or under twenty. 

    A few more signings of the Kirk calibre or even possibly a tweak to the formation and that could change. But based on the evidence, very few of the concerns so far are completely invalid.
  • Horsfield9
    Horsfield9 Posts: 3,082
    Well,  this is all going swimmingly,  isn't it?
  • Yet another bolloxed up Saturday night. 
  • Don’t know why I’m here. Need to find something better to do.