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Adkins Out? - Match Thread
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Honestly think the squad he has is good enough, it’s worrying that there is no clear idea of what a starting 11 or identity is for the team.
the lack of being competitive in games is the single most worrying thing11 -
Simplify. Go 4-4-2. But so many managers try to be cleverer than they actually are.carly burn said:I hate the trigger happy approach.
But I don't think there's been many green shoots from any of our performances thus far.
I went to the Wigan game where we were comprehensively outplayed.
I mentioned it at the time. Adkins was balling instructions to the players and I saw a couple shrug their shoulders to one another.
They are not playing for this manager!4 -
carly burn said:I hate the trigger happy approach.
But I don't think there's been many green shoots from any of our performances thus far.
I went to the Wigan game where we were comprehensively outplayed.
I mentioned it at the time. Adkins was balling instructions to the players and I saw a couple shrug their shoulders to one another.
They are not playing for this manager!
What a mess.
Sounds like the players are also just being unprofessional dickheads.
What happened over the summer?
We don't know what happens behind closed doors, but sounds like Adkins isn't even respected.
Two sides to every story, but might be a case they all collectively don't give a shit.
Players probably unite in moaning about Adkins via Charlton squad watsapp group.
It won't help and most likely adds fuel to a fire and a negative welcome for any new recruits3 -
Course, if he is sacked, he'll inevitably go somewhere else by Christmas and get em promoted.
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Just going past Wembley on the met line home. Closest I’ll get this season, playoffs already out of sight. Just a few weeks ago I’d have said mid table would be a disaster for us, now it’ll be a triumph. Adkins should go.0
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Yeah rightBR7_addick said:A new manager now would be ideal as there’s so much time to rectify things, and now our expectations are lowered.If you bought someone in from our league they’d be licking their lips with the individuals we’ve got.
Matthews
Gunter
Watson
Morgan
Clare
Dobson
DJ
Etc.
Probably got a hard on at the prospect of that lot.10 -
Why have you named the shit ones and not the good ones that we paid big money for?blackpool72 said:
Yeah rightBR7_addick said:A new manager now would be ideal as there’s so much time to rectify things, and now our expectations are lowered.If you bought someone in from our league they’d be licking their lips with the individuals we’ve got.
Matthews
Gunter
Watson
Morgan
Clare
Dobson
DJ
Etc.
Probably got a hard on at the prospect of that lot.1 -
None of them look good either tbf.BR7_addick said:
Why have you named the shit ones and not the good ones that we paid big money for?blackpool72 said:
Yeah rightBR7_addick said:A new manager now would be ideal as there’s so much time to rectify things, and now our expectations are lowered.If you bought someone in from our league they’d be licking their lips with the individuals we’ve got.
Matthews
Gunter
Watson
Morgan
Clare
Dobson
DJ
Etc.
Probably got a hard on at the prospect of that lot.1 -
BR7_addick said:
Why have you named the shit ones and not the good ones that we paid big money for?blackpool72 said:
Yeah rightBR7_addick said:A new manager now would be ideal as there’s so much time to rectify things, and now our expectations are lowered.If you bought someone in from our league they’d be licking their lips with the individuals we’ve got.
Matthews
Gunter
Watson
Morgan
Clare
Dobson
DJ
Etc.
Probably got a hard on at the prospect of that lot.
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Name me the big ones who have been playing well.BR7_addick said:
Why have you named the shit ones and not the good ones that we paid big money for?blackpool72 said:
Yeah rightBR7_addick said:A new manager now would be ideal as there’s so much time to rectify things, and now our expectations are lowered.If you bought someone in from our league they’d be licking their lips with the individuals we’ve got.
Matthews
Gunter
Watson
Morgan
Clare
Dobson
DJ
Etc.
Probably got a hard on at the prospect of that lot.2 - Sponsored links:
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Players don’t become bad overnight do they.We all rated Stockley, Matthews etc under bowyer.We’ve spent decent money on decent league one players. Not to mention some very capable loan players.The manager is the problem, clearly.5
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You’re massively missing the point.blackpool72 said:
Name me the big ones who have been playing well.BR7_addick said:
Why have you named the shit ones and not the good ones that we paid big money for?blackpool72 said:
Yeah rightBR7_addick said:A new manager now would be ideal as there’s so much time to rectify things, and now our expectations are lowered.If you bought someone in from our league they’d be licking their lips with the individuals we’ve got.
Matthews
Gunter
Watson
Morgan
Clare
Dobson
DJ
Etc.
Probably got a hard on at the prospect of that lot.
see my previous post.0 -
You're setting yourself up for a fall when your catchphrase is
'Lets go and make the most of the day everyone'3 -
I respect your view mate.BR7_addick said:Players don’t become bad overnight do they.We all rated Stockley, Matthews etc under bowyer.We’ve spent decent money on decent league one players. Not to mention some very capable loan players.The manager is the problem, clearly.
But this transfer window was a fucking disaster.
Look at the league one table if you don't agree3 -
Not all of us rated Stockley. Plenty on here didn't want us to re-sign him this season.2
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Managers don't become bad overnight do they?BR7_addick said:Players don’t become bad overnight do they.We all rated Stockley, Matthews etc under bowyer.We’ve spent decent money on decent league one players. Not to mention some very capable loan players.The manager is the problem, clearly.
We finished last season strong, I think the rebuild didn't go to plan so we've ended up a bit phucked. I don't blame Nigel, he inherited a number of these players probably without much say.4 -
Bit harsh on Etc. Think he's been our best player .blackpool72 said:
Yeah rightBR7_addick said:A new manager now would be ideal as there’s so much time to rectify things, and now our expectations are lowered.If you bought someone in from our league they’d be licking their lips with the individuals we’ve got.
Matthews
Gunter
Watson
Morgan
Clare
Dobson
DJ
Etc.
Probably got a hard on at the prospect of that lot.10 -
They become stale and void of ideas though clearly. You can name examples all the way up the top.Dazzler21 said:
Managers don't become bad overnight do they?BR7_addick said:Players don’t become bad overnight do they.We all rated Stockley, Matthews etc under bowyer.We’ve spent decent money on decent league one players. Not to mention some very capable loan players.The manager is the problem, clearly.
We finished last season strong, I think the rebuild didn't go to plan so we've ended up a bit phucked. I don't blame Nigel, he inherited a number of these players probably without much say.0 -
We left it late agreed, but we are not the only team to do that.blackpool72 said:
I respect your view mate.BR7_addick said:Players don’t become bad overnight do they.We all rated Stockley, Matthews etc under bowyer.We’ve spent decent money on decent league one players. Not to mention some very capable loan players.The manager is the problem, clearly.
But this transfer window was a fucking disaster.
Look at the league one table if you don't agree
We are all in agreement we’ve been embarrassingly bad. I think it points to the manager in a big way.0 -
Concerned that we don’t have a clue what formation or players to play. Yes you should have depth, but you should at least know your core 13/140
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You should have a plan B you can implement when required, not wait for a goal/half time. If it isn't working it never fixes itself. How an experienced manager like Adkins doesn't know this is beyond me. Plan B might fail but if plan A is failing what have you got to F ing lose?2
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Yeah definitely. He didn’t turn into a crap manager over a summer. He did well in his games last season. Something has happened since then - the budget was cut (it was, right?) and we didn’t bring in decent players early enough. Clare and Dobson? Behave.blackpool72 said:He will get the sack sometime soon.
But I still blame Sandgaard.
Worst transfer window ever.
Half the players we have kept are shit.
As for pre season 😣😣1 -
Got us out of the Championship as well which should never have happenedDamoNorthStand said:Adkins is Tommy’s man so he needs to take responsibility now and make the hard decisions.Unfortunately, as the person above said TS seems like a nice guy who knows fuck all about football.
As opposed to Roland who was a twat but was experienced enough in the sport to get us in the Championship.
It’s a fair debate to ask what’s worse.5 -
Let’s name a few we all agree on then.
Akin Famewo - we all loved him last season no? And was buzzing to get him back. He’s been shite.
Matthews - another majority loved, championship he was good for us. He’s been shite.
Kirk - one of the most exciting young names in this league, perhaps we can blame his personal issues, but he’s been shite.
Stockley - very good end of last season, buzzing also when we signed him, the majority were. He’s been shite.
Morgan - appreciate he divided opinion even last season, but he’s been shite, he was never shite before.
So why all these players last season the most of us liked, been terrible this season? What’s the common denominator?5 -
Feels the same as it did towards the end of Bowyer's tenure, with players not seeming to know their roles. I don't think 4-4-2 saves us, all the opposition do, whatever formation we choose, is press us high and make us go long, knowing they can win second balls. I liked what I saw under Adkins when he came in, got us pressing higher and playing as a unit, not sure what's happened. But until the players are drilled to know where they are meant to be playing and what they are meant to be doing, passing and moving instinctively and playing through the lines with confidence, it's not going to go well.1
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I'm sure it's not what Adkins expected either, Sandgaard invested in mediocrity & joint bottom of Division three is where mediocrity lands you.Hal1x said:Im sure its not what Sandgaard expected this year, I think he will have to do something and he will have to do it soon, he has too much invested for mediocrity at best.4 -
2 games left for me.1
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Forest are playing like bunch of one legged blind men .. Hughton is sacked and they win 2-0 at Huddersfield for the first win of the season .. the point .. players often play 100% better for a new manager .. just what we need, a new manager bounce2
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One thing is certain. Things have to improve one way or another. That’s under Adkins or someone else. No idea when its the right time to push the button but unless that improvement is very quickly forthcoming then it has to be soon. Two more losses this week would be my limit although I don’t think we’ll lose either.0
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Seriously would you make yourself unemployed ? Sandgaard has to sack him or come to some agreement (same thing really)RodneyCharltonTrotta said:boggzy said:Maybe he's waiting for the sack, having been (like us) told a load of crap by Sandgaard.
I wonder if that is the case and he's after a pay off. Hope not but who knows0
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