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Homophobic abuse at today's game (ed - Not Charlton fans)
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I'm offended on behalf of posh twats and if no one else is offended, I will also be offended by that.Lordflashheart said:
Well I still think that one of our best chants is ‘does your Butler know you’re here’ aimed at Fulham fans - however I suspect someone on here will take offence with that chant as well !!!soapboxsam said:Just for Lordflasheart:
Let's get serious.
Life continues to evolve, sometimes for the better sometimes for the worse.
At Brighton v Cafc, we had two matches where we drew 0-0 (Hamer, worldie save)
and 2-2 ( Igor 2 goals, Albion with a slam Dunk goal late on)
Now I believe it was the 0-0 game some Cafc fans were singing "we can see you holding hands" I did notice a gay Charlton fan was singing as well.
The following season when the chant started up, not by many as it was getting more publicity a couple of Cafc fans were nabbed by the stewards/police after the passe song started to be chanted.
Being straight, I don't know if all gay folk were offended by that. I would imagine many found it amusing while others were deeply offended.
Any comments from our gay fans would be appreciated as your voice interests me more than straight folk.
The caveat is I always found "we can see you holding hands" crass.2 -
I wonder if anyone found 'you're gonna get your fuckin' heads kicked in' offensive?3
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1970's legwear for right on.Vincenzo said:BefoLordflashheart said:
Before we find out what "antifa loons" are? Surely not.@AFKABartram I think this thread needs to be closed, it’s getting silly now0 -
I’m a self confessed ‘ANTIFA loon’, as was my dad. He fought fascism during WW2, and I went on the Anti Nazi League rally to Victoria Park in 1978, where the Clash were headlining. Loons!Vincenzo said:BefoLordflashheart said:
Before we find out what "antifa loons" are? Surely not.@AFKABartram I think this thread needs to be closed, it’s getting silly now1 -
Classist!Covered End said:
I'm offended on behalf of posh twats and if no one else is offended, I will also be offended by that.Lordflashheart said:
Well I still think that one of our best chants is ‘does your Butler know you’re here’ aimed at Fulham fans - however I suspect someone on here will take offence with that chant as well !!!soapboxsam said:Just for Lordflasheart:
Let's get serious.
Life continues to evolve, sometimes for the better sometimes for the worse.
At Brighton v Cafc, we had two matches where we drew 0-0 (Hamer, worldie save)
and 2-2 ( Igor 2 goals, Albion with a slam Dunk goal late on)
Now I believe it was the 0-0 game some Cafc fans were singing "we can see you holding hands" I did notice a gay Charlton fan was singing as well.
The following season when the chant started up, not by many as it was getting more publicity a couple of Cafc fans were nabbed by the stewards/police after the passe song started to be chanted.
Being straight, I don't know if all gay folk were offended by that. I would imagine many found it amusing while others were deeply offended.
Any comments from our gay fans would be appreciated as your voice interests me more than straight folk.
The caveat is I always found "we can see you holding hands" crass.0 -
Ha ha! Same. My dad fought the Nazis too - and I was at Victoria Park as well. Loons unite!JamesSeed said:
I’m a self confessed ‘ANTIFA loon’, as was my dad. He fought fascism during WW2, and I went on the Anti Nazi League rally to Victoria Park in 1978, where the Clash were headlining. Loons!Vincenzo said:BefoLordflashheart said:
Before we find out what "antifa loons" are? Surely not.@AFKABartram I think this thread needs to be closed, it’s getting silly now1 -
Am also co-writing a book on left-wing/anti-fascist football clubs around the world, to be published later this year. So am a proper loon.3
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Mostly amused, but a couple of times a little nervous… going home in an ambulance always sounded a better optionBaldybonce said:I wonder if anyone found 'you're gonna get your fuckin' heads kicked in' offensive?0 -
Vincenzo said:Am also co-writing a book on left-wing/anti-fascist football clubs around the world, to be published later this year. So am a proper loon.
That will be an interesting read. Who are the key clubs with that leaning beyond the better known ones like Roma, St Pauli, and Dulwich/ Clapton?0 -
I always thought "you'll never make the station" was offensive.CatAddick said:
Mostly amused, but a couple of times a little nervous… going home in an ambulance always sounded a better optionBaldybonce said:I wonder if anyone found 'you're gonna get your fuckin' heads kicked in' offensive?
I mean the away was and is much closer to the station than the Covered End1 -
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Ditto on both countsVincenzo said:
Ha ha! Same. My dad fought the Nazis too - and I was at Victoria Park as well. Loons unite!JamesSeed said:
I’m a self confessed ‘ANTIFA loon’, as was my dad. He fought fascism during WW2, and I went on the Anti Nazi League rally to Victoria Park in 1978, where the Clash were headlining. Loons!Vincenzo said:BefoLordflashheart said:
Before we find out what "antifa loons" are? Surely not.@AFKABartram I think this thread needs to be closed, it’s getting silly now
I might have been at a few other anti-nazi "events" in the 1970s as well1 -
@UEAAddick did some work on politics in Italian clubs for his MA @VincenzoRodneyCharltonTrotta said:Vincenzo said:Am also co-writing a book on left-wing/anti-fascist football clubs around the world, to be published later this year. So am a proper loon.
That will be an interesting read. Who are the key clubs with that leaning beyond the better known ones like Roma, St Pauli, and Dulwich/ Clapton?2 -
I hope so. Will include: Rayo Vallecano, Cádiz, Cosenza, Bohemians Praha, Red Star (Paris) and Standard Liege in Europe.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:Vincenzo said:Am also co-writing a book on left-wing/anti-fascist football clubs around the world, to be published later this year. So am a proper loon.
That will be an interesting read. Who are the key clubs with that leaning beyond the better known ones like Roma, St Pauli, and Dulwich/ Clapton?
My co-writer is covering Boca Juniors, though their politics is complicated, like most things in Argentina. Also Palestino in Chile and Detroit City. And there'll be mentions for AEK Athens, Hapoel Tel Aviv, Bahia in Brazil and AC Omonoia Nicosia.6 -
Excellent, look forward to it.1
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Ooh, interesting. Maybe I should get in touch. Most Italian clubs are pretty right wing, with some proper fascist support, but there's a few on the other side; Livorno, Cosenza and Ternana.Henry Irving said:
@UEAAddick did some work on politics in Italian clubs for his MA @VincenzoRodneyCharltonTrotta said:Vincenzo said:Am also co-writing a book on left-wing/anti-fascist football clubs around the world, to be published later this year. So am a proper loon.
That will be an interesting read. Who are the key clubs with that leaning beyond the better known ones like Roma, St Pauli, and Dulwich/ Clapton?0 -
Hasn’t there been a trend of drift in Italy from left to right. Roma, I believe, went from left to right or at least partially right.
Are you with pitch publishing @Vincenzo0 -
My friend is a film editor and he gave me some film stills from the concert that was used for the Rude Boy film. My sister who works in film got them printed for me as they’re not like standard negatives. She got them to leave the sprocket holes on and I had the best one framed.JamesSeed said:
I’m a self confessed ‘ANTIFA loon’, as was my dad. He fought fascism during WW2, and I went on the Anti Nazi League rally to Victoria Park in 1978, where the Clash were headlining. Loons!Vincenzo said:BefoLordflashheart said:
Before we find out what "antifa loons" are? Surely not.@AFKABartram I think this thread needs to be closed, it’s getting silly now
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Yes, I am.SheffieldRed said:Hasn’t there been a trend of drift in Italy from left to right. Roma, I believe, went from left to right or at least partially right.
Are you with pitch publishing @Vincenzo
Lazio are the real right wing club in Rome. Roma are not as bad as them but I think they have fans on both sides of the fence.0 -
Fantastic! Still one of my most cherished gig memories. What a day it was.DaveMehmet said:
My friend is a film editor and he gave me some film stills from the concert that was used for the Rude Boy film. My sister who works in film got them printed for me as they’re not like standard negatives. She got them to leave the sprocket holes on and I had the best one framed.JamesSeed said:
I’m a self confessed ‘ANTIFA loon’, as was my dad. He fought fascism during WW2, and I went on the Anti Nazi League rally to Victoria Park in 1978, where the Clash were headlining. Loons!Vincenzo said:BefoLordflashheart said:
Before we find out what "antifa loons" are? Surely not.@AFKABartram I think this thread needs to be closed, it’s getting silly now2 -
Sorry, I seem to have hijacked this thread somewhat!2
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I was at Victoria Park too and watched one of my favourites, Jimmy Pursey, singing White Riot in front of the Clash … I ain’t a bloody looney though 🤣Henry Irving said:
Ditto on both countsVincenzo said:
Ha ha! Same. My dad fought the Nazis too - and I was at Victoria Park as well. Loons unite!JamesSeed said:
I’m a self confessed ‘ANTIFA loon’, as was my dad. He fought fascism during WW2, and I went on the Anti Nazi League rally to Victoria Park in 1978, where the Clash were headlining. Loons!Vincenzo said:BefoLordflashheart said:
Before we find out what "antifa loons" are? Surely not.@AFKABartram I think this thread needs to be closed, it’s getting silly now
I might have been at a few other anti-nazi "events" in the 1970s as well2 -
Superb mate … any to spare?DaveMehmet said:
My friend is a film editor and he gave me some film stills from the concert that was used for the Rude Boy film. My sister who works in film got them printed for me as they’re not like standard negatives. She got them to leave the sprocket holes on and I had the best one framed.JamesSeed said:
I’m a self confessed ‘ANTIFA loon’, as was my dad. He fought fascism during WW2, and I went on the Anti Nazi League rally to Victoria Park in 1978, where the Clash were headlining. Loons!Vincenzo said:BefoLordflashheart said:
Before we find out what "antifa loons" are? Surely not.@AFKABartram I think this thread needs to be closed, it’s getting silly now0 -
You can have the one on the right if you want mate. PM me your address and I'll send it on.stonemuse said:
Superb mate … any to spare?DaveMehmet said:
My friend is a film editor and he gave me some film stills from the concert that was used for the Rude Boy film. My sister who works in film got them printed for me as they’re not like standard negatives. She got them to leave the sprocket holes on and I had the best one framed.JamesSeed said:
I’m a self confessed ‘ANTIFA loon’, as was my dad. He fought fascism during WW2, and I went on the Anti Nazi League rally to Victoria Park in 1978, where the Clash were headlining. Loons!Vincenzo said:BefoLordflashheart said:
Before we find out what "antifa loons" are? Surely not.@AFKABartram I think this thread needs to be closed, it’s getting silly now1 -
Message sent, cheersDaveMehmet said:
You can have the one on the right if you want mate. PM me your address and I'll send it on.stonemuse said:
Superb mate … any to spare?DaveMehmet said:
My friend is a film editor and he gave me some film stills from the concert that was used for the Rude Boy film. My sister who works in film got them printed for me as they’re not like standard negatives. She got them to leave the sprocket holes on and I had the best one framed.JamesSeed said:
I’m a self confessed ‘ANTIFA loon’, as was my dad. He fought fascism during WW2, and I went on the Anti Nazi League rally to Victoria Park in 1978, where the Clash were headlining. Loons!Vincenzo said:BefoLordflashheart said:
Before we find out what "antifa loons" are? Surely not.@AFKABartram I think this thread needs to be closed, it’s getting silly now0 -
Typical Antifa, Woke, Social Justice Warrior, Do-Gooder, Cultural Marxist, PC gone mad behaviour.DaveMehmet said:
You can have the one on the right if you want mate. PM me your address and I'll send it on.stonemuse said:
Superb mate … any to spare?DaveMehmet said:
My friend is a film editor and he gave me some film stills from the concert that was used for the Rude Boy film. My sister who works in film got them printed for me as they’re not like standard negatives. She got them to leave the sprocket holes on and I had the best one framed.JamesSeed said:
I’m a self confessed ‘ANTIFA loon’, as was my dad. He fought fascism during WW2, and I went on the Anti Nazi League rally to Victoria Park in 1978, where the Clash were headlining. Loons!Vincenzo said:BefoLordflashheart said:
Before we find out what "antifa loons" are? Surely not.@AFKABartram I think this thread needs to be closed, it’s getting silly now
Don't you know just giving something away makes people dependent on communist freebies and undermines Christian capitalism.
PS do I win anti-woke bingo?11 -
Piss off comradeHenry Irving said:
Typical Antifa, Woke, Social Justice Warrior, Do-Gooder, Cultural Marxist, PC gone mad behaviour.DaveMehmet said:
You can have the one on the right if you want mate. PM me your address and I'll send it on.stonemuse said:
Superb mate … any to spare?DaveMehmet said:
My friend is a film editor and he gave me some film stills from the concert that was used for the Rude Boy film. My sister who works in film got them printed for me as they’re not like standard negatives. She got them to leave the sprocket holes on and I had the best one framed.JamesSeed said:
I’m a self confessed ‘ANTIFA loon’, as was my dad. He fought fascism during WW2, and I went on the Anti Nazi League rally to Victoria Park in 1978, where the Clash were headlining. Loons!Vincenzo said:BefoLordflashheart said:
Before we find out what "antifa loons" are? Surely not.@AFKABartram I think this thread needs to be closed, it’s getting silly now
Don't you know just giving something away makes people dependent on communist freebies and undermines Christian capitalism.
Po do I win anti-woke bingo?6 -
Hapoel Tel Aviv is an Interesting one. Whilst it was always the club of the left and the trade unions, it only turned militant as a reaction to the ultra nationalist (very gently speaking) Beitar Yerushalayim (Jerusalem) becoming a very clear and violent representative of extreme right wing ideologies (again, very mild language used).Vincenzo said:
I hope so. Will include: Rayo Vallecano, Cádiz, Cosenza, Bohemians Praha, Red Star (Paris) and Standard Liege in Europe.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:Vincenzo said:Am also co-writing a book on left-wing/anti-fascist football clubs around the world, to be published later this year. So am a proper loon.
That will be an interesting read. Who are the key clubs with that leaning beyond the better known ones like Roma, St Pauli, and Dulwich/ Clapton?
My co-writer is covering Boca Juniors, though their politics is complicated, like most things in Argentina. Also Palestino in Chile and Detroit City. And there'll be mentions for AEK Athens, Hapoel Tel Aviv, Bahia in Brazil and AC Omonoia Nicosia.
Looking forward to that book.1 -
Absolutely no need for apologies.Vincenzo said:Sorry, I seem to have hijacked this thread somewhat!
I’m definitely looking forward to your book.
I was tempted to compile one too but remembered I signed the OSA & probably can’t 🤷♀️😂0 -
I don't remember much homophobic abuse at the Valley over the years. The only incident that sticks in my mind was some witty Charlton fan shouting out 'Are you a faggot Bent?' or something similar at Marcus Bent when he was playing for Sheffield United. The look of absolute contempt he shot back when he heard it was the only time I ever had any respect for the guy. Pretty sure he went on to rip us a new one in that game too.0
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We always used to sing "We can see you holding hands" to the Brighton fans and in return they called us "Dirty Northern Bastards" All good fun and nobody got harmed.SantaClaus said:I don't remember much homophobic abuse at the Valley over the years. The only incident that sticks in my mind was some witty Charlton fan shouting out 'Are you a faggot Bent?' or something similar at Marcus Bent when he was playing for Sheffield United. The look of absolute contempt he shot back when he heard it was the only time I ever had any respect for the guy. Pretty sure he went on to rip us a new one in that game too.3
