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A Plan For The Summer?

Just wondered if a plan has already been drawn up of players to keep and players to let go and what positions we’ll be targeting in the summer, got to get our business done early, or we’ll be in this division a few more seasons burning cash.
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  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,470
    edited February 2022
    There will be a plan. 

    I'm sure Gallen already has a plan for players to fit the formation Jackson has chosen and identified players available on a free this summer. 

    Problem is, most players will have multiple suitors going after them. This is why we end up with the plan x/y/z or a freebie in late August. 
  • cazo
    cazo Posts: 1,483
    Yer big fucking clear out
  • The plan needs to involve the best free players (in the positions we need covering) available joining us on the 1st July, rather than the likes of Ipswich and Wigan
  • Keep Dobson and AMB , bin the rest .
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,352
    edited February 2022
    We keep hearing from Gallen, Sandgaard etc. that it's about consistency now and not having to sign 10+ players each year. Sadly I think that's the exact opposite of what we need. If we start off the summer by re-signing the likes of Matthews, Pearce, etc. it's going to be just another horrible season. 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    The paln is to haggle over a couple of quid here and thereand miss out, sign a couple of players because they were good on some kids championship manager save and end up signing a couple of injured has beens from Gallen's mates?

    Well it worked last summer didn't it? 
  • There will be a plan. 

    I'm sure Gallen already has a plan for players to fit the formation Jackson has chosen and identified players available on a free this summer. 

    Problem is, most players will have multiple suitors going after them. This is why we end up with the plan x/y/z or a freebie in late August. 
    That's the spirit.

  • paulfox
    paulfox Posts: 2,356
    Thought this was a holiday suggestions thread by the title, really disappointed to read it’s about our team!!🤣
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,507
    Chunes said:
    We keep hearing from Gallen, Sandgaard etc. that it's about consistency now and not having to sign 10+ players each year. Sadly I think that's the exact opposite of what we need. If we start off the summer by re-signing the likes of Matthews, Pearce, etc. it's going to be just another horrible season. 
    Nothing wrong with Matthews … and Pearce written of last season by many proved them wrong again this year …. Pearce will move into coaching but expect him to be still registered as a player 

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  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,013
    Chunes said:
    We keep hearing from Gallen, Sandgaard etc. that it's about consistency now and not having to sign 10+ players each year. Sadly I think that's the exact opposite of what we need. If we start off the summer by re-signing the likes of Matthews, Pearce, etc. it's going to be just another horrible season. 
    Nothing wrong with Matthews … and Pearce written of last season by many proved them wrong again this year …. Pearce will move into coaching but expect him to be still registered as a player 
    Obviously you missed Matthews gifting the first goal today.
    There's a lot wrong with Matthews.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,643
    The plan should be to start the process now. Start talking to agents & players about next season. Decide who we are going to offer contracts too before the end of March & have them signed before the end of the season.

    Then start bringing the players in well before pre season starts. We should aim to have the nucleus of the squad by July 1st (say 15/16 players) & the other half a dozen before the end of July. Start the opening game of the season with your favoured 18. Obviously there might be 1 or 2 you add before the end of August but you need to hit the ground running.

    Which is the  complete opposite of this season where we started the season without a fit left back & only on deadline did we managed to fill it (with a player who'd been out with a long term injury & has since left the club). We also drafted in another recently injured player who again is no longer with us ( Arter) and started the season without knowing our best 11, let alone best 18 man matchday squad.

    But then again, who's going to listen to me.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,386
    Chunes said:
    We keep hearing from Gallen, Sandgaard etc. that it's about consistency now and not having to sign 10+ players each year. Sadly I think that's the exact opposite of what we need. If we start off the summer by re-signing the likes of Matthews, Pearce, etc. it's going to be just another horrible season. 
    Nothing wrong with Matthews … and Pearce written of last season by many proved them wrong again this year …. Pearce will move into coaching but expect him to be still registered as a player 

  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,013

    Which is the  complete opposite of this season where we started the season without a fit left back & only on deadline did we managed to fill it (with a player who'd been out with a long term injury & has since left the club).
    I'm having a brain fade, but who is this player that has left the club?

  • Which is the  complete opposite of this season where we started the season without a fit left back & only on deadline did we managed to fill it (with a player who'd been out with a long term injury & has since left the club).
    I'm having a brain fade, but who is this player that has left the club?
    Arter.
  • msomerton
    msomerton Posts: 2,979
    First up sign 15 new players fit enough to play 90mins per game twice a week and who do not have underlying injury problems. Then release those who fail those from tests.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,013
    edited February 2022

    Which is the  complete opposite of this season where we started the season without a fit left back & only on deadline did we managed to fill it (with a player who'd been out with a long term injury & has since left the club).
    I'm having a brain fade, but who is this player that has left the club?
    Arter.
    Surely, he's talking about a left back?
    Did Souare leave, not that I'm aware?
  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,493

    Which is the  complete opposite of this season where we started the season without a fit left back & only on deadline did we managed to fill it (with a player who'd been out with a long term injury & has since left the club).
    I'm having a brain fade, but who is this player that has left the club?
    Arter.
    Surely, he's talking about a left back?
    Did Souare leave?
    Can't give him away. 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,386

    Which is the  complete opposite of this season where we started the season without a fit left back & only on deadline did we managed to fill it (with a player who'd been out with a long term injury & has since left the club).
    I'm having a brain fade, but who is this player that has left the club?
    Arter.
    Surely, he's talking about a left back?
    Did Souare leave, not that I'm aware?
    Towards the end of the window Richard Cawley said we were trying to move him on and didn't want a fee, but it never happened in the end so he's still here.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,439
    edited February 2022
    Hopefully one of the issues amongst the players at the moment is the likes of Gunter | Souare | Watson

    Bet all three are amongst our highest earners, yet aren't earning it on a Saturday afternoon

    Wouldn't be surprised if there are some in the squad who aren't happy about that, and its creating a bit of disharmony in the dressing room - Hope none of them are in the playing squad for next year. Not just that either, but hope we move away from trying to sign "names" e.g. am sure that Defoe would have been an asset but I would have feared that he'd have been in the same class as those three mentioned.

    Next season need to aim to build a squad of players that know League One... Your Scott Fraser's etc.

    Comes back to something that Keith Peacock says on the Centenary DVD - Need to go back to having a squad of players with none of them thinking that they're Superstars amongst the squad, even if they might be better than those around them.

    Secondly need to stop asking ourselves which players we think can step up to the Championship

    If we can win League One then there is the potential for the squad (if it can stay together) to build on its success, and play at the level above on a high like we've seen from so many other promoted teams... Yes there will be those who cant take the step up, and they (sadly) get moved on, like what we saw with Danny Hollands.

    But there is no point trying to build a Championship squad now, when we're no where near there

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  • SuedeAdidas
    SuedeAdidas Posts: 7,744
    Under what circumstances would Souare be one of our top earners?!? Surely not. 
  • Under what circumstances would Souare be one of our top earners?!? Surely not. 
    Id bloody hope not, but ex-Premier League... Wouldnt be surprised.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,047
    The plan needs to involve the best free players (in the positions we need covering) available joining us on the 1st July, rather than the likes of Ipswich and Wigan
    I don’t think it works like this unfortunately. The timeline is really controlled by the players & clubs further up the food chain. The clubs further up the leagues are able to go out and get their first choice players early on, the further down the leagues have much less control over who is available and when. I think us Charlton fans might have a slightly false impression over his much you can’t really put in place to have your key transfer targets join you at the very start of the window because we had that one amazing window under Powell, I’m beginning to think that was the exception rather than the rule.
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,683
    Watson 
    Gunter
    Mathews 
    Morgan 
    Kirk
    Davison 
    Leco
    Plus several others all need replacing by much better players if we are serious about promotion. 
    I'd be really pissed off if we keep any of the above. 
  • RickAddick
    RickAddick Posts: 1,199
    Copying this thread at the end of August and pasting it next February as 'A plan for summer 2023' would save everyone a lot of bother!
  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,212
    Based on the preferred 352 with two players in each position:

    GK
    MacG
    AMB

    RCB
    Clare
    (new)

    CB
    Innis
    Lavelle

    LCB
    Famewo
    (new)

    RWB
    Jaiyesimi
    (new)

    LWB
    (new)
    (new)

    CDM
    Dobson
    (new)

    CM
    Fraser
    Morgan

    CM
    Gilbey
    JFC

    FWD
    Washington
    (new)

    STK
    Stockley
    Aneke

    YOUTH (on the fringes)
    Kanu
    Elewere
    Henry


    CBT - harsh but where does he fit in?  One of him or Jaiyesimi has to go.
    Purrington - also slightly harsh but we have to move on if we’re opting for wing backs.
    All others not mentioned - sorry, not sorry.

    The slots highlighted as “(new)” are vital acquisitions to make it work, particularly the wing back positions.  

    We also need a bit of luck, as bad as we’ve been our injuries are just so frustrating and unlucky in most cases.  Take JFC for example, Lavelle never been injured until he signs for us, Stockley rarely injured until now etc.

    You’ll laugh, but I don’t think we’re far off, I just hope it all gets assembled quicker than last summer.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,643

    Which is the  complete opposite of this season where we started the season without a fit left back & only on deadline did we managed to fill it (with a player who'd been out with a long term injury & has since left the club).
    I'm having a brain fade, but who is this player that has left the club?
    Sorry, I thought Souare had left, seeing as we brought in a loanee to replace him. Anyway, we wont see him.again this season so like Schwartz he will disappear without trace.
     
  • CH4RLTON
    CH4RLTON Posts: 2,618
    The one thing so would say is there can be no excuses next season not to be completely prepared for the start. This season was lost at the start given the fact we only had 11 senior players available for the first game. We need get as many of our players in or out and be something resembling decent squad by the start of pre season 
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,047
    Based on the preferred 352 with two players in each position:

    GK
    MacG
    AMB

    RCB
    Clare
    (new)

    CB
    Innis
    Lavelle

    LCB
    Famewo
    (new)

    RWB
    Jaiyesimi
    (new)

    LWB
    (new)
    (new)

    CDM
    Dobson
    (new)

    CM
    Fraser
    Morgan

    CM
    Gilbey
    JFC

    FWD
    Washington
    (new)

    STK
    Stockley
    Aneke

    YOUTH (on the fringes)
    Kanu
    Elewere
    Henry


    CBT - harsh but where does he fit in?  One of him or Jaiyesimi has to go.
    Purrington - also slightly harsh but we have to move on if we’re opting for wing backs.
    All others not mentioned - sorry, not sorry.

    The slots highlighted as “(new)” are vital acquisitions to make it work, particularly the wing back positions.  

    We also need a bit of luck, as bad as we’ve been our injuries are just so frustrating and unlucky in most cases.  Take JFC for example, Lavelle never been injured until he signs for us, Stockley rarely injured until now etc.

    You’ll laugh, but I don’t think we’re far off, I just hope it all gets assembled quicker than last summer.
    Famewo I’m not sure on. Really depends how much Norwich want, I wouldn’t be spending too much of our finite budget on him.
  • Mendonca In Asdas
    Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,653
    edited February 2022
    Not signing injury prone players would be a start, but we also want players who can do the business week in week week out, not just when they fancy it or the suns shining the right way, where do we get those sort of players from?

    Seriously lacking in consistency at the moment (what do you expect with 3 starting strikers out) I still think we’re lacking in creativity and steel in midfield.