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Charlton Women to rebrand as "Charlton Ladies" - turned down by FA (p28)

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  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,981
    27 pages brilliant. 
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,212
    27 pages brilliant. 
    Wait until the owner tweets after the game tomorrow afternoon 👍 
  • CAFCTrev
    CAFCTrev Posts: 5,974
    I popped this on the main TS thread but I think it will get lost with todays ongoing topic on there. 

    Has the whole renaming the Charlton Women to "Ladies" thing blown over now? A few months back TS was adamant that the change was going to be finalised imminently but nothing since then. Has the backlash convinced him to not go through with it now? 
  • BrentfordAddick
    BrentfordAddick Posts: 1,460
    In the brochure thing for new STs it was all Charlton Women so perhaps the owner has listened, in which case fair play. 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,364
    I’m sure he said “women” during his CL interview…
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,729
    CAFCTrev said:
    I popped this on the main TS thread but I think it will get lost with todays ongoing topic on there. 

    Has the whole renaming the Charlton Women to "Ladies" thing blown over now? A few months back TS was adamant that the change was going to be finalised imminently but nothing since then. Has the backlash convinced him to not go through with it now? 
    He couldn’t “finalise” it during the season as the FA won’t allow mid-season name changes.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,204
    Scoham said:
    I’m sure he said “women” during his CL interview…
    He did
  • CAFCTrev
    CAFCTrev Posts: 5,974
    CAFCTrev said:
    I popped this on the main TS thread but I think it will get lost with todays ongoing topic on there. 

    Has the whole renaming the Charlton Women to "Ladies" thing blown over now? A few months back TS was adamant that the change was going to be finalised imminently but nothing since then. Has the backlash convinced him to not go through with it now? 
    He couldn’t “finalise” it during the season as the FA won’t allow mid-season name changes.
    Do you think its still something he wants to push on with?
  • BrentfordAddick
    BrentfordAddick Posts: 1,460
    I think Airman has it, new season, new name. Oh well. 
  • JiMMy 85
    JiMMy 85 Posts: 10,189
    I've worked with a few women's teams over the last year. One was Merseyrail Ladies and they seemed perfectly happy with their name. Another is London Seaward who, having fallen out with Leyton Orient, were happy to not have to go under another club's banner so don't even need to refer to their gender in their name. 

    I did hear a debate about how 'ladies' is seen as patronising but cannot remember the reasoning. Ultimately it should be up to the women involved with the club to decide IMO. If they feel patronised by the word then it's not for me or anyone else to tell them otherwise. 
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  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    (Already posted this on a different thread). 

    I thought the crowd at the Valley (710?) was decent until I heard that more than 23,000 watched Newcastle Women’s debut match at St James’s Park. They’re in the 4th tier of women’s football. 

    There’s real potential in women’s football. 
  • Hal1x
    Hal1x Posts: 4,265
    JamesSeed said:
    (Already posted this on a different thread). 

    I thought the crowd at the Valley (710?) was decent until I heard that more than 23,000 watched Newcastle Women’s debut match at St James’s Park. They’re in the 4th tier of women’s football. 

    There’s real potential in women’s football. 
    How much did they pay to watch?
  • JaShea99
    JaShea99 Posts: 5,455
    JamesSeed said:
    (Already posted this on a different thread). 

    I thought the crowd at the Valley (710?) was decent until I heard that more than 23,000 watched Newcastle Women’s debut match at St James’s Park. They’re in the 4th tier of women’s football. 

    There’s real potential in women’s football. 
    Is there? Surely the reasons for that massive attendance are pretty similar to the reasons Newcastle ‘men’ get such good gates?
  • Crusty54
    Crusty54 Posts: 3,225
    Anna Filbey has said on Twitter that she is leaving the club. A big shame.
  • lancashire lad
    lancashire lad Posts: 15,624
    Crusty54 said:
    Anna Filbey has said on Twitter that she is leaving the club. A big shame.
    who?
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,312
    Crusty54 said:
    Anna Filbey has said on Twitter that she is leaving the club. A big shame.
    So, so frustratingly close 
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,159
    Crusty54 said:
    Anna Filbey has said on Twitter that she is leaving the club. A big shame.
    That's a real shame, she's looked very, very good playing out at CB
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    DOUCHER said:
    whenever i do an email requesting some help from our marketing team, i always start the email with 'Ladies' (they are all women btw) - never dawned on me that they might think i'm being disrespectful - how do you address a group of women without naming them all?  
    Why is their gender relevant at all in that situation? 

    Hi all,
    hi everyone 
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    Not sure if it’s at all helpful but as Airman mentioned earlier, local/regional/national FAs don’t let you change team names and details mid-season. There’s usually an AGM in May-July and each team is asked to submit any changes and confirm current details (name, kit colour, pitch/stadium location etc) as well as any suggested rule changes, feedback etc.

    So watch this space I’d say. If we get to the end of July/early August and there’s no change then maybe TS has seen sense. 
  • Karim_myBagheri
    Karim_myBagheri Posts: 12,689
    are we definitely sure this is for the women's team and not the Men's? 
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  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,729
    Not sure if it’s at all helpful but as Airman mentioned earlier, local/regional/national FAs don’t let you change team names and details mid-season. There’s usually an AGM in May-July and each team is asked to submit any changes and confirm current details (name, kit colour, pitch/stadium location etc) as well as any suggested rule changes, feedback etc.

    So watch this space I’d say. If we get to the end of July/early August and there’s no change then maybe TS has seen sense. 
    I believe the paperwork has been submitted.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    Not sure if it’s at all helpful but as Airman mentioned earlier, local/regional/national FAs don’t let you change team names and details mid-season. There’s usually an AGM in May-July and each team is asked to submit any changes and confirm current details (name, kit colour, pitch/stadium location etc) as well as any suggested rule changes, feedback etc.

    So watch this space I’d say. If we get to the end of July/early August and there’s no change then maybe TS has seen sense. 
    I believe the paperwork has been submitted.
    In my experience the FA won’t fight it, which is a shame. 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    Know your audience:

    When females professional footballers talk about their team mates, they say "we have a great team spirit with this group of girls" I heard this said again at the weekend after the Woman's cup final by a Chelsea player and have heard similar all season after this debate started. 

    When talking about females playing football I always say Woman's football when talking about "the group." 

    At a local library, there was a poetry and story pamphlet book produced and when we were selecting the poems I said to 6 females present. "Decision time Ladies" it seemed  appropriate as the females were 45 to 60 and i knew them all personally but not intimately.

    In London at a spoken word gig in Covent garden with 3/4 of the audience female and from 16 to 70 years old. I saw a Young woman with a crew cut who I had met before sitting next to her female partner also a man who is a transvestite in a floral dress similar to the artist Perry but without the face blusher. Also many folk with different hues and three male rugby player from New Zealand who did a version of the haka.

    I addressed the 50+ people as "guys" as that term was still acceptable in cosmopolitan London.

    Know your audience, or else just say "peeps'
  • 9 of the team leaving!!
  • Isawsummersplay
    Isawsummersplay Posts: 1,427
    Are they all directly related to the proposed name change?
  • charlton_hero
    charlton_hero Posts: 4,664
    9 of the team leaving!!
    Saw this. Does anyone know what's going on? There's some good names in the released list.
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,159
    Elise Hughes going is a shame, decent player. Other than her and Wynne though it's mostly back up players and a few who predated the move to professional status, so not a mass exodus of key players. The important thing now is getting players better than what we currently have to really give the squad some depth
  • Crusty54
    Crusty54 Posts: 3,225
    9 of the team leaving!!
    Saw this. Does anyone know what's going on? There's some good names in the released list.
    I don't think they were released. It seems the contracts were only one year.
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    Elise Hughes going is a shame, decent player. Other than her and Wynne though it's mostly back up players and a few who predated the move to professional status, so not a mass exodus of key players. The important thing now is getting players better than what we currently have to really give the squad some depth
    Easily done, just copy the blue print for the 1st team.................................oh, hold on a minute!
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,364
    edited May 2022
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