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Summer 2022 transfer rumours (Gilbey loan confirmed p513, a signing falls through last minute p541)
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cabbles said:Just an observation but found the language on the two tweets announcing the 2 signings interesting. O’Connell was described as a ball playing CB and Mandela an attacking full back. I’m not arguing these aren’t qualities they possess, just funny how football’s changed and languages, optics and messaging is used. When you think about it, is it because the club are trying to put a message across as to the style and brand TS keeps sharing in interviews, is it to reassure us as fans we’re getting exciting players, or is it just the done thing in football now?
When Garner is sacked because we let in 4 goals a game, and we being in Tony Pulis to sort out the defence, the tweets about our defensive signings will say things like
"He's a no nonsense defender, he loves keeping the ball out of the net and is happy to kick it into row Z if necessary"2 -
I’m fully expecting a number of trialists will be on the trip to Spain. Hopefully we get some names from the camp.2
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ShootersHillGuru said:I’m fully expecting a number of trialists will be on the trip to Spain. Hopefully we get some names from the camp.
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eaststandmike said:cabbles said:Just an observation but found the language on the two tweets announcing the 2 signings interesting. O’Connell was described as a ball playing CB and Mandela an attacking full back. I’m not arguing these aren’t qualities they possess, just funny how football’s changed and languages, optics and messaging is used. When you think about it, is it because the club are trying to put a message across as to the style and brand TS keeps sharing in interviews, is it to reassure us as fans we’re getting exciting players, or is it just the done thing in football now?2
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ShootersHillGuru said:I’m fully expecting a number of trialists will be on the trip to Spain. Hopefully we get some names from the camp.21
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ButtleJR said:Sounds as if Thomas is staying put while players go to Spain as plenty going on, has extended his stay by 10 days.We're due to play a couple of matches behind closed doors in Spain, in the new kit.2
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RoanRedNY said:ValleyGary said:RoanRedNY said:The Sandinistas are out in force and sifting through some old perceived slights to throw into a thread, that had just got interesting with the 2 new signings. How the 20 ton irony bucket isn’t hitting them between the eyes when they moan about moaning about a done to death recruitment topic is beyond me.Only hoping there’s some more quality signings coming in soon and as long as they are taking the team forward that’s a good start.
Why are people so eager to create division amongst our fanbase. We all want the same thing dont we?9 -
I’d say I wish we could remove all the irrelevant, sniping posts from this thread but then we’d only have about 100 posts.5
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Covered End said:addick1956 said:Braziliance said:SOTF said:Braziliance said:I guess the people claiming that Ben Garner won’t be in charge of signings can put that one to bed now
It really doesn't have to be one or the other where Ben Garner and signings is concerned.This is now evident in him signing a centre back he admired from when he played against and a player from the team he just left, I’d say it’s unlikely we sign either of these if Garner isn’t here.In a nutshell, people can stop pretending Sandgaard is an evil ruler who won’t let managers sign players now and just get behind the team3 -
Not sure how good friends they are after the Papa Souare recommendation!10
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ButtleJR said:Sounds as if Thomas is staying put while players go to Spain as plenty going on, has extended his stay by 10 days.We're due to play a couple of matches behind closed doors in Spain, in the new kit.0
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Scoham said:ShootersHillGuru said:I’m fully expecting a number of trialists will be on the trip to Spain. Hopefully we get some names from the camp.0
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ButtleJR said:Sounds as if Thomas is staying put while players go to Spain as plenty going on, has extended his stay by 10 days.We're due to play a couple of matches behind closed doors in Spain, in the new kit.49
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Good signing for Sheff Wed today, getting Will Vaulks from Cardiff. Very good player at this level.6
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Callumcafc said:Good signing for Sheff Wed today, getting Will Vaulks from Cardiff. Very good player at this level.
By definition, Vaulks is on the way down. Plus, he's only a Welsh international ... like Gareth Bale, Chris Gunter and Dylan Levitt.
Trust me, this will blow up in their smug Hillsborough faces.9 -
Callumcafc said:Good signing for Sheff Wed today, getting Will Vaulks from Cardiff. Very good player at this level.3
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Athletico Charlton said:
League 2 'Team of the Year' player.
Sure, he's just signed for Walsall, but we need to aim high.0 -
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DOUCHER said:Braziliance said:cafcfan1990 said:Braziliance said:cafcfan1990 said:Braziliance said:I reckon we will end up with Joe Wollacott (Swindon’s goalie) and that will be some coup.
Ghanas number 1, made team of the season, contract is up in the summer and I imagine would be the kind of keeper Garner wants.McG is absolutely turd with his feet and AMB is up in the air due to his injury record imo, I reckon we will have a new #1 next season.We obviously don’t wanna sign every Swindon player as people have jested, but Wollacott, Egbo, McKirdy, Payne and Reed would all be very good additions to the squad. That solves the keeper issue, right back issue, healthy completion in midfield and a forward that has been successful under our manager and can play across that front 3 in the famous ‘high press’
very excited to see what kind of signings we make and how this Charlton team will look
Think the problem we've got in CM if we have Dobson, Fraser, JFC, Gilbey, Clare and Morgan. Again think we're going to need an outgoing or two.
McKirdy is an interesting one and I will of course trust Garner on it. Just a bit concerned it was a one off, but if he does join I hope it's because he suited Garner's style and he can pick off where he ended at Swindon.
I too am excited, I just hope we have enough budget to get the players needed.I reckon midfield will be fine if we bring in two more, long old season and we now know we will be playing a midfield 3. Going to need 6 centre mids I would say, we have 5 but one is absolutely pants.I think McKirdy would hit the ground running with us but again just a hunch.Egbo stats below, interesting career so far. He notched up 3 assists in 10 games for Swindon from what I can see online. If you watch him in those games as well he travels with the ball so well, if he can defend he’s a no brainier1 -
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The transfer market in the EFL has really started coming to life this week2 -
NabySarr said:Callumcafc said:Good signing for Sheff Wed today, getting Will Vaulks from Cardiff. Very good player at this level.
Denying there were major fuck ups over the last 18 months does no one any good.
You don't need to be captain hindsight to know a center half and a more suitable striker in January 21 would have probably got us in the play offs. Nor that the two windows since then have taken us backwards.
Now let's take that on the chin, it could have been much worse, it nearly was.
If lessons have been learnt (it's still if imo) and we now do it right, it may well take 18 months. I might take longer. But we have appointed an excellent manager (you could argue that his 3 predecessors were as well) and the early signs are we are giving him the tools to do his job. That's a change. The rhetoric has changed.
Blind faith? No. Evidence based assessment. So far so good, but there is a hell of a lot of work to do, Thomas's money to spend, and my life to waste.6 -
Vfrf said:ButtleJR said:Sounds as if Thomas is staying put while players go to Spain as plenty going on, has extended his stay by 10 days.We're due to play a couple of matches behind closed doors in Spain, in the new kit.1
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These two new lads feel like proper Charlton signings.I will try and save judgement until the end of the window but things seem to be coming together with the new gaffer and on the recruitment front. Early days but starting to feel a little more optimistic for the new season!
As other have said, will be nice to get a LB in soon for the defensive unit to start to gel. Desperately need a pacy striker too.
HMS Scrape into the Playoffs could be on!2 -
ButtleJR said:Vfrf said:ButtleJR said:Sounds as if Thomas is staying put while players go to Spain as plenty going on, has extended his stay by 10 days.We're due to play a couple of matches behind closed doors in Spain, in the new kit.
Alternatively send me £20 a month and I won't share Nixon's news4 -
Probably nothing but JW is having a pint with Jason Pearce and our head physio in Chislehurst. Probably not a medical then..8
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Cafc43v3r said:NabySarr said:Callumcafc said:Good signing for Sheff Wed today, getting Will Vaulks from Cardiff. Very good player at this level.
Denying there were major fuck ups over the last 18 months does no one any good.
You don't need to be captain hindsight to know a center half and a more suitable striker in January 21 would have probably got us in the play offs. Nor that the two windows since then have taken us backwards.
Now let's take that on the chin, it could have been much worse, it nearly was.
If lessons have been learnt (it's still if imo) and we now do it right, it may well take 18 months. I might take longer. But we have appointed an excellent manager (you could argue that his 3 predecessors were as well) and the early signs are we are giving him the tools to do his job. That's a change. The rhetoric has changed.
Blind faith? No. Evidence based assessment. So far so good, but there is a hell of a lot of work to do, Thomas's money to spend, and my life to waste.
We have appointed a League 2 manager. So far, we have signed two League 2 players ... one of which finished in 18th place.
It may work out. It may not. But it's hardly a proven recipe for delivering a Championship-ready (not Premier League-ready) team.
I remain as optimistic as the next fan ... but don't kid yourself. It's optimism, not evidence-based.11 -
Dave Rudd said:Cafc43v3r said:NabySarr said:Callumcafc said:Good signing for Sheff Wed today, getting Will Vaulks from Cardiff. Very good player at this level.
Denying there were major fuck ups over the last 18 months does no one any good.
You don't need to be captain hindsight to know a center half and a more suitable striker in January 21 would have probably got us in the play offs. Nor that the two windows since then have taken us backwards.
Now let's take that on the chin, it could have been much worse, it nearly was.
If lessons have been learnt (it's still if imo) and we now do it right, it may well take 18 months. I might take longer. But we have appointed an excellent manager (you could argue that his 3 predecessors were as well) and the early signs are we are giving him the tools to do his job. That's a change. The rhetoric has changed.
Blind faith? No. Evidence based assessment. So far so good, but there is a hell of a lot of work to do, Thomas's money to spend, and my life to waste.
We have appointed a League 2 manager. So far, we have signed two League 2 players ... one of which finished in 18th place.
It may work out. It may not. But it's hardly a proven recipe for delivering a Championship-ready (not Premier League-ready) team.
I remain as optimistic as the next fan ... but don't kid yourself. It's optimism, not evidence-based.
Garner is a fantastic coach, if you look I mentioned him when it was the "who would you like next" stage of the thread.
Evidence based, yes one is obviously a player the manager knows and wants, that hasn't been the case for a while. The other is a player the manager would have watched live at least twice last season, plus the half dozen games he watched prepping for those games.
Is it perfect? Of course its not. Maybe not giant strides, they could come later and will be judged accordingly, but certainly baby steps.4 -
Cafc43v3r said:Dave Rudd said:Cafc43v3r said:NabySarr said:Callumcafc said:Good signing for Sheff Wed today, getting Will Vaulks from Cardiff. Very good player at this level.
Denying there were major fuck ups over the last 18 months does no one any good.
You don't need to be captain hindsight to know a center half and a more suitable striker in January 21 would have probably got us in the play offs. Nor that the two windows since then have taken us backwards.
Now let's take that on the chin, it could have been much worse, it nearly was.
If lessons have been learnt (it's still if imo) and we now do it right, it may well take 18 months. I might take longer. But we have appointed an excellent manager (you could argue that his 3 predecessors were as well) and the early signs are we are giving him the tools to do his job. That's a change. The rhetoric has changed.
Blind faith? No. Evidence based assessment. So far so good, but there is a hell of a lot of work to do, Thomas's money to spend, and my life to waste.
We have appointed a League 2 manager. So far, we have signed two League 2 players ... one of which finished in 18th place.
It may work out. It may not. But it's hardly a proven recipe for delivering a Championship-ready (not Premier League-ready) team.
I remain as optimistic as the next fan ... but don't kid yourself. It's optimism, not evidence-based.
Garner is a fantastic coach, if you look I mentioned him when it was the "who would you like next" stage of the thread.
Evidence based, yes one is obviously a player the manager knows and wants, that hasn't been the case for a while. The other is a player the manager would have watched live at least twice last season, plus the half dozen games he watched prepping for those games.
Is it perfect? Of course its not. Maybe not giant strides, they could come later and will be judged accordingly, but certainly baby steps.
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