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Charlton Women to rebrand as "Charlton Ladies" - turned down by FA (p28)

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  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,827
    Scoham said:
    Part time goalkeeper coach role advertised for £10 an hour.

    https://jobs4football.com/job/goal-keeping-coach/
    Doesn’t say how many hours a week either. 
  • Ormiston_Addick
    Ormiston_Addick Posts: 8,810
    edited May 2022
    Swisdom said:
    DOUCHER said:
    DOUCHER said:
    whenever i do an email requesting some help from our marketing team, i always start the email with 'Ladies' (they are all women btw) - never dawned on me that they might think i'm being disrespectful - how do you address a group of women without naming them all?  
    I guess everyone should address people however they'd like to be addressed, as a general rule, and that seems to be the issue with changing the name of the team. 
    i will send them a pre email first next time and ask them
    In French I was taught you should ask someone if they wished to be referred to as Tu or Vous.  "On peut se tutoyer".

    It's basically a way of saying "Can I refer to you as Tu" which is more familiar and formal  than Vous.  I always found this practice strange but I suppose this is not too dissimilar to nowadays to people telling us what their pronouns are so nobody assumes anything.

    Still find it weird though
    The French practice of formal and informal tenses isn’t really the same as pronouns.

    As a fluent French speaker myself the best rule of thumb is to always use the formal tense unless talking to someone you know really well or a child that you are obviously superior to.

    The pronouns stuff is an actual choice of how you want to be addressed all the time and people generally respect that.

    In French if you insisted to your close friends that you wanted to be addressed formally, effectively as “Mr. Swisdom” at all times then they’d think you were a complete tosser!
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,442
    Scoham said:
    Part time goalkeeper coach role advertised for £10 an hour.

    https://jobs4football.com/job/goal-keeping-coach/
    Education/Qualifications/Training – Required to Apply
    • UEFA B Goalkeeper (minimum)
    • UEFA Level 2 (minimum)
    • FA Youth Modules 1 & 2 (included in new Level 2)
    • FA Level 1 First Aid (IFAiF) or Level 2 First Aid (EFAiF)
    • FA Safeguarding certificate
    • FA Licensed Coaches Club member
    • Current FA DBS check
    • Previous experience of coaching girls and\or at an elite level desirable
    • Be able to travel independently.
    • Understanding of the FA Girls Talent Pathway


    For £10 an hour. 
  • Crusty54
    Crusty54 Posts: 3,225
    Scoham said:
    Part time goalkeeper coach role advertised for £10 an hour.

    https://jobs4football.com/job/goal-keeping-coach/
    Education/Qualifications/Training – Required to Apply
    • UEFA B Goalkeeper (minimum)
    • UEFA Level 2 (minimum)
    • FA Youth Modules 1 & 2 (included in new Level 2)
    • FA Level 1 First Aid (IFAiF) or Level 2 First Aid (EFAiF)
    • FA Safeguarding certificate
    • FA Licensed Coaches Club member
    • Current FA DBS check
    • Previous experience of coaching girls and\or at an elite level desirable
    • Be able to travel independently.
    • Understanding of the FA Girls Talent Pathway


    For £10 an hour. 
    The list of requirements points to this being for the junior teams.
  • Crusty54
    Crusty54 Posts: 3,225
    Kim Dixson has posted on Twitter that she is looking for a new challenge.

    Good luck Kim wherever it takes you.
  • KBslittlesis
    KBslittlesis Posts: 8,582
    edited June 2022
    shirty5 said:

    😂😂😂😂😂👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,365
    Good
  • fenlandaddick
    fenlandaddick Posts: 1,767
    Goods news on a Friday, whatever next ? 😎
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,365
    Goods news on a Friday, whatever next ? 😎
    Another signing from Swindon, probably.
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  • Rob7Lee
    Rob7Lee Posts: 9,592
    Was always a crazy idea, I see today Steve Adamanson has left as well.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,204
    edited June 2022
    shirty5 said:

    Scoop for young Natasha there.
  • cafc999
    cafc999 Posts: 4,967
    edited June 2022
    shirty5 said:

    Scoop for young Natasha there.
    She has some good contacts
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,797
    edited June 2022
    Delusional that the FA would allow it in any case, let along a summer where they are hosting a major women tournament 
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,204
    cafc999 said:
    shirty5 said:

    Scoop for young Natasha there.
    She has some good contacts
    So I understand 
  • Crusty54
    Crusty54 Posts: 3,225
    Rob7Lee said:
    Was always a crazy idea, I see today Steve Adamanson has left as well.
    Worth a read
    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/decade-charlton-athletic-steve-adamson

  • ISawLeaburnScore
    ISawLeaburnScore Posts: 9,779
    edited June 2022
    Utterly utterly bizarre.

    Putting aside any consideration around whether it is actually the correct thing to do, this was always far far behind literally hundreds of other tasks that should have been prioritised.

    There's a lot I want to like about TS and some things I do but his decision-making (including if we are honest in buying us in the first place in the structure and at the pace he did) is something I struggle to comprehend a lot of the time.

    Hopefully this is a line through it and time to refocus and re-prioritise and not the start of some ridiculous doubling-down exercise.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    Interesting and pleasantly surprised by the FA. 
  • Crusty54
    Crusty54 Posts: 3,225
    Interesting that this was the headline 

    Tom Cruse appointed Women's Academy Technical Director

  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,212
    shirty5 said:

    I Bet we have not heard the last of this. 
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  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,976
    Crusty54 said:
    Interesting that this was the headline 

    Tom Cruse appointed Women's Academy Technical Director

    Sounds like a tough role….,you could say mission impossible!

    but If we can get the cocktail right it shouldn’t be too much risky business
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,820
    First game he felt the need for speed and now facing a 6-month drug ban...
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,729
    I suspect the FA is in the business of showing its displeasure with this idea, so that if TS fights it and manages to get it through eventually it will be very clear what they think about it.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,204
    I suspect the FA is in the business of showing its displeasure with this idea, so that if TS fights it and manages to get it through eventually it will be very clear what they think about it.
    Telling that they say they will explain their reasoning in September ie after the Euros and when the new season has stated meaning that, as a team can't change name mid-season, that any name change could only happen in summer of 2023 at the earliest.


  • Fanny Fanackapan
    Fanny Fanackapan Posts: 18,735
    Utterly utterly bizarre.

    Putting aside any consideration around whether it is actually the correct thing to do, this was always far far behind literally hundreds of other tasks that should have been prioritised.

    There's a lot I want to like about TS and some things I do but his decision-making (including if we are honest in buying us in the first place in the structure and at the pace he did) is something I struggle to comprehend a lot of the time.

    Hopefully this is a line through it and time to refocus and re-prioritise and not the start of some ridiculous doubling-down exercise.
    Totally with you on this & the issue of prioritising. 

    Glad you posted it, not me, though, so thanks ! 
  • CAFCTrev
    CAFCTrev Posts: 5,974
    Its not going to be a good look to re-brand the Women's team as Ladies at the same time the Women's Euro's are on. 

    Hopefully he will move on from this now, but if he doesn't, its such a bizarre hill to die on. 
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,516
    Really hope this now quietly goes away and CAFC Women can get on with it. Will keep an eye on the official website - still says ‘Ladies’ at the moment. That was where the issue was first noticed from memory. 
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,907
    Great result and also pretty funny!
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,347
    Ah the little loves...
  • swordfish
    swordfish Posts: 4,233
    edited June 2022
    It's a shame that the achievement of incorporating the women's team into the club and turning them professional has been tarnished to some degree by this episode.

    Hopefully TS will not now contest the decision, although he'd have to write off any cost already incurred in the rebranding, money which would have been better used for less misguided initiatives.

    If he does contest it, he will have chosen the wrong issue to make a stand on imo due to the negative messaging surrounding it.

    That said, tbh, I wasn't aware that the term was considered outdated  before this came up, and have always begun my speeches "Ladies & Gentlemen," not realizing some might take offence. Not all though and my wife says she doesn't have an issue with it.

    Perhaps it's more a generational thing. As one of my favourite characters from Heartbeat, Claude Jeremiah Greengrass used to say often, "I'm nearly an old age pensioner now you know!"

    Doh, apologies for that. it's Senior Citizen now isn't it, or is that now 'so last year' too. I give up. It's all so confusing nowadays 🤔