Summer 2022 transfer rumours (Gilbey loan confirmed p513, a signing falls through last minute p541)

Pompey's squad has looked weaker year on year since the Cowleys took over. They have lost quality players like Whatmough, Naylor, Harness, etc. and have not replaced them with quality players. 

Be interested to see how much service Bishop and Pigott get with who they've got playing behind them.

addick1956 said:

golfaddick said:

FishCostaFortune said:

So in the are you looking forward to next season thread Golfie said he’s not ‘because we are not building a team’

Yet he praises Portsmouth for getting a 31 year old Marlon Pack and a 34 year old Michael Morrison on frees, alongside 21 year old keeper from Spurs who does not even have a Wikipedia page. Never mind Joe Piggot on loan who is the same age as and has scored less goals then Stockley - a striker he constantly argues is not good enough to get enough goals for us.

In my opinion their only decent signings are Colby Bishop and the other goalkeeper they have on loan. Not really sure Raffety or that other Arsenal right back who managed 3 games on loan at MMV Maastricht in 2020 are really going to be game changers for them. 

I fancy Piggott & Bishop will get more goals than Stockley & Aneke.

Because Aneke can't score from a medical couch.

£50 to the upbeats says that aneke is involved in more league 1 match day squads than he misses through injury?

paulfox said:

golfaddick said:

Jac_52 said:

golfaddick said:

Todds_right_hook said:

golfaddick said:

FishCostaFortune said:

So in the are you looking forward to next season thread Golfie said he’s not ‘because we are not building a team’

Yet he praises Portsmouth for getting a 31 year old Marlon Pack and a 34 year old Michael Morrison on frees, alongside 21 year old keeper from Spurs who does not even have a Wikipedia page. Never mind Joe Piggot on loan who is the same age as and has scored less goals then Stockley - a striker he constantly argues is not good enough to get enough goals for us.

In my opinion their only decent signings are Colby Bishop and the other goalkeeper they have on loan. Not really sure Raffety or that other Arsenal right back who managed 3 games on loan at MMV Maastricht in 2020 are really going to be game changers for them. 

I fancy Piggott & Bishop will get more goals than Stockley & Aneke.

How did that work out last season?

edit, not a fair comparison though as Portsmouth  are likely to start with them both up top and we will start with one or the other.

I bet stockley and anekes goals per min ratio is less than the Portsmouth two

But mins per goal means fuck all if Aneke can only play 25% of the time. He might have a better "striking rate" but if he is only on the pitch once in a blue moon then his 90 mins per goal may get him 10 goals. Piggott & Bishop might strike at 120 mins per goal but if they play more mins they score more goals. 

I would much rather have a fully fit Aneke over Piggott but we all know Aneke can't play match after match & hence why Piggott will score more goals. 

We're going to be playing with one striker and Stockley for 60mins + Aneke for 30mins scores more goals per 90 than all but a few players in this league.

We should be creating more chances this year and many of those will fall to our midfielders now instead of Washington so their contribution will naturally go up across the board.

Is this midfield the same one that score just 10 goals between them last season. I appreciated we've added Payne but CBT, DJ, Gilbey, Morgan, Fraser, Kirk & Dobson all played for us last season & they just got into double figures 

Again I appreciate we have a new coach but the above players will have to severely up their  game if you think they will suddenly make up the difference that will be needed.

Think maybe slightly disingenuous there golfie, Fraser hardly played will expect more from him,Kirk was hardly with us not sure what will happen to him,Morgan well is Morgan , Dobbo wasn’t his job to score goals, we should expect more from gilbey, the fact he’s scored a few pre season may give him confidence if he plays. Our biggest issue is our strikers not hitting a barn door, if they start scoring it’s amazing how that flows through a team and produces goals all around. Mcgrandles also added.

on top of that we were dogshit overall!!!😂

Not disingenuous at all. Those players are still here & have been very prominent in Garners pre-season teams. Yes, Kirk & Fraser didnt play much but they did play 23 times between them......scoring none. For context Purrington played 31 times, scoring 4. And he is a defender. 

My point is that we keep being told that the midfield will score the goals (seeing as we only have 2 mainstream strikers) but the players who didnt score last season are still here & are all part of Garners plans. Not only have we not strengthened up front we are still pretty weak (goal scoring wise) in midfield. On balance it would probably have been better keeping Purrington and playing him in midfield 😃

Jac_52 said:

Essex_Al said:

Swisdom said:

A quote about Rak-Sakhi from a mate of mine who is the u18s manager at Palace.

”Jes needs a challenge and I think he will be very good” 

I think he found u23 football to easy so needs competitive action now.  One of those rare players that hasn’t yet met a ceiling he can’t smash through.  Hope he comes and isn’t the next Sulley Kaikai

So did he confirm that Rak-Sakhi was coming to us then Swis?

Sounds more like a confirmation he will definitely be loaned out but not necessarily to us?

I agree.  We can hope

thenewbie said:

But we're not playing the same way as they did last season so it's not impossible that we will see more goals coming from midfield. Garner's system generally seems to favour more players scoring fewer goals each rather than one "main" goal scorer backed up by a few others chipping in.


Personally I actually agree with the concern that as it stands we won't score enough for promotion (and certainly not automatic) but I do think we'll see more goals from midfield and wingers than we did last season. And I hope/believe that Garner's fully aware of the issue but finding the solution on a budget won't be quick or simple.

So you are expecting shot shy midfielders (Gilbey, DJ & Kirk) as well as shit shot ones (Morgan) to suddenly turn into Kinsella,  Stuart & Holmes.

Dream on.  

golfaddick said:

thenewbie said:

But we're not playing the same way as they did last season so it's not impossible that we will see more goals coming from midfield. Garner's system generally seems to favour more players scoring fewer goals each rather than one "main" goal scorer backed up by a few others chipping in.


Personally I actually agree with the concern that as it stands we won't score enough for promotion (and certainly not automatic) but I do think we'll see more goals from midfield and wingers than we did last season. And I hope/believe that Garner's fully aware of the issue but finding the solution on a budget won't be quick or simple.

So you are expecting shot shy midfielders (Gilbey, DJ & Kirk) as well as shit shot ones (Morgan) to suddenly turn into Kinsella,  Stuart & Holmes.

Dream on.  

Kirk could be different under Garner. He's got a history of chipping in and for me deserves a clean slate this season. You're probably right about the other three. 

cafcfan1990 said:

golfaddick said:

thenewbie said:

But we're not playing the same way as they did last season so it's not impossible that we will see more goals coming from midfield. Garner's system generally seems to favour more players scoring fewer goals each rather than one "main" goal scorer backed up by a few others chipping in.


Personally I actually agree with the concern that as it stands we won't score enough for promotion (and certainly not automatic) but I do think we'll see more goals from midfield and wingers than we did last season. And I hope/believe that Garner's fully aware of the issue but finding the solution on a budget won't be quick or simple.

So you are expecting shot shy midfielders (Gilbey, DJ & Kirk) as well as shit shot ones (Morgan) to suddenly turn into Kinsella,  Stuart & Holmes.

Dream on.  

Kirk could be different under Garner. He's got a history of chipping in and for me deserves a clean slate this season. You're probably right about the other three. 

What has Kirk done more than the others to earn a clean slate? Everyone gets a clean slate under Garner. Yes, even Gilbey. But everyone seems to think Kirk will walk in ahead of DJ, even though the latter is the only one who's had good games for us 

To be honest I think it's pretty bad logic with the shower of shit these guys have played under to write any of them off under a new manager.

They have all shown promise at times and at others been underwhelming.

Imagine getting a palace youngster on loan because we’re now so far behind them , it could get a lot worse 
wait till our official first team fixture list has us having to play their u21 team in the pizza eating competition 
what a time to be alive 

Can’t believe we’re signing Simon Jordan’s little brother.

golfaddick said:

thenewbie said:

But we're not playing the same way as they did last season so it's not impossible that we will see more goals coming from midfield. Garner's system generally seems to favour more players scoring fewer goals each rather than one "main" goal scorer backed up by a few others chipping in.


Personally I actually agree with the concern that as it stands we won't score enough for promotion (and certainly not automatic) but I do think we'll see more goals from midfield and wingers than we did last season. And I hope/believe that Garner's fully aware of the issue but finding the solution on a budget won't be quick or simple.

So you are expecting shot shy midfielders (Gilbey, DJ & Kirk) as well as shit shot ones (Morgan) to suddenly turn into Kinsella,  Stuart & Holmes.

Dream on.  

No. If you read properly instead of going for a cheap shot you'd notice I specifically said I don't think we'll score enough. I am expecting MORE goals than last season but unless we find a proper goal scorer I don't think we'll be going anywhere.

AppyAddick said:

Plaaayer said:

Michael?

Eddie

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