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Summer 2022 transfer rumours (Gilbey loan confirmed p513, a signing falls through last minute p541)
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I suspect that JFC and Gilbey having only one year on their contract is contrary to the football business model. Peterborough would freeze them out in the same way. (that assumes that they have a monetary value in the market)Cafc43v3r said:
All the being flipent aside it does make you wonder when Garner decided that the "frozen out three" weren't up to it? Or indeed that's what he actually has decided.ForeverAddickted said:
Only once they'd signed Twine to replace the latterCafc43v3r said:
The same manager who jogged McGrandles and Fraser on without a second's hesitation.....Leuth said:
Would that be the Russell Martin who flogged him to Charlton without a second's hesitation?FishCostaFortune said:
Not sure what they were like under Tisdale, but he did play under Russel Martin whose style makes ‘GarnerBall’ look like prime Sam Allardyce.Leuth said:MKD weren't nearly so ball-playing while Gilbey was there, tbf...
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I noticed on Tuesday that Fraser did track back and do a lot of good defensive work. I think he is more of an all round mid fielder than he is given credit forkillerandflash said:
Why would playing Payne instead of Fraser make us more vulnerable defensively? Fraser is hardly a defensive player.sam3110 said:Payne and Morgan are the chief corner takers I guess.
Is a side with both of them in too attacking?
WollacottClare Inniss O'Connell Sessegnon
Morgan Dobson PayneRak-Sakyi Stockley CBT24 -
We are faced with that fantastic dilemma of having too many players I’d want to put into our best XI instead of scrabbling to try and fill the team by putting square pegs and round holes! And that’s before even seeing what a fit McGrandles and Egbo have to offer.Get the two players in that we want (positionally) and it all of a sudden becomes a fight to even get into the 18!16
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Am I forgetting the third of the three you are referring to?Cafc43v3r said:
All the being flipent aside it does make you wonder when Garner decided that the "frozen out three" weren't up to it? Or indeed that's what he actually has decided.ForeverAddickted said:
Only once they'd signed Twine to replace the latterCafc43v3r said:
The same manager who jogged McGrandles and Fraser on without a second's hesitation.....Leuth said:
Would that be the Russell Martin who flogged him to Charlton without a second's hesitation?FishCostaFortune said:
Not sure what they were like under Tisdale, but he did play under Russel Martin whose style makes ‘GarnerBall’ look like prime Sam Allardyce.Leuth said:MKD weren't nearly so ball-playing while Gilbey was there, tbf... 0 -
Not sure, as passing isn’t his strongest suit.J BLOCK said:
Agreed. I think Gilbey would do really well under Garner, unfortunately for him we are so well stacked in that area that he isn’t at the level we have now.FishCostaFortune said:It’s funny what happens when you have a coaching set up which does not look to bypass the midfield.Considering on the whole how badly performing people said our midfield was last year (with the exception of Dobbo for obvious reasons of course), and how well oiled they are beginning to look this year - maybe even Gilbey (player of the year two years in a row at ball playing MK Dons) would look better under ‘GarnerBall’.1 -
So have Albie and Clare.SpicedAddick said:
I suspect that JFC and Gilbey having only one year on their contract is contrary to the football business model. Peterborough would freeze them out in the same way. (that assumes that they have a monetary value in the market)Cafc43v3r said:
All the being flipent aside it does make you wonder when Garner decided that the "frozen out three" weren't up to it? Or indeed that's what he actually has decided.ForeverAddickted said:
Only once they'd signed Twine to replace the latterCafc43v3r said:
The same manager who jogged McGrandles and Fraser on without a second's hesitation.....Leuth said:
Would that be the Russell Martin who flogged him to Charlton without a second's hesitation?FishCostaFortune said:
Not sure what they were like under Tisdale, but he did play under Russel Martin whose style makes ‘GarnerBall’ look like prime Sam Allardyce.Leuth said:MKD weren't nearly so ball-playing while Gilbey was there, tbf... 1 -
MacGillivray, JFC and Gilbey.Callumcafc said:
Am I forgetting the third of the three you are referring to?Cafc43v3r said:
All the being flipent aside it does make you wonder when Garner decided that the "frozen out three" weren't up to it? Or indeed that's what he actually has decided.ForeverAddickted said:
Only once they'd signed Twine to replace the latterCafc43v3r said:
The same manager who jogged McGrandles and Fraser on without a second's hesitation.....Leuth said:
Would that be the Russell Martin who flogged him to Charlton without a second's hesitation?FishCostaFortune said:
Not sure what they were like under Tisdale, but he did play under Russel Martin whose style makes ‘GarnerBall’ look like prime Sam Allardyce.Leuth said:MKD weren't nearly so ball-playing while Gilbey was there, tbf...
We basically signed their replacements before preseason started.4 -
But then so does Payne. He's not a Kirk style of attacking player, who can't really defendTodds_right_hook said:
I noticed on Tuesday that Fraser did track back and do a lot of good defensive work. I think he is more of an all round mid fielder than he is given credit forkillerandflash said:
Why would playing Payne instead of Fraser make us more vulnerable defensively? Fraser is hardly a defensive player.sam3110 said:Payne and Morgan are the chief corner takers I guess.
Is a side with both of them in too attacking?
WollacottClare Inniss O'Connell Sessegnon
Morgan Dobson PayneRak-Sakyi Stockley CBT0 -
Ah MacKeeper was the one I missed.Cafc43v3r said:
MacGillivray, JFC and Gilbey.Callumcafc said:
Am I forgetting the third of the three you are referring to?Cafc43v3r said:
All the being flipent aside it does make you wonder when Garner decided that the "frozen out three" weren't up to it? Or indeed that's what he actually has decided.ForeverAddickted said:
Only once they'd signed Twine to replace the latterCafc43v3r said:
The same manager who jogged McGrandles and Fraser on without a second's hesitation.....Leuth said:
Would that be the Russell Martin who flogged him to Charlton without a second's hesitation?FishCostaFortune said:
Not sure what they were like under Tisdale, but he did play under Russel Martin whose style makes ‘GarnerBall’ look like prime Sam Allardyce.Leuth said:MKD weren't nearly so ball-playing while Gilbey was there, tbf...
We basically signed their replacements before preseason started.
I'm not sure he'll be going before the January window myself. Wollacott likely to be away for the World Cup as well as other international duties over time... is Harness ready to step up?3 -
Disagree, think under the right manager he’d do wellJamesSeed said:
Not sure, as passing isn’t his strongest suit.J BLOCK said:
Agreed. I think Gilbey would do really well under Garner, unfortunately for him we are so well stacked in that area that he isn’t at the level we have now.FishCostaFortune said:It’s funny what happens when you have a coaching set up which does not look to bypass the midfield.Considering on the whole how badly performing people said our midfield was last year (with the exception of Dobbo for obvious reasons of course), and how well oiled they are beginning to look this year - maybe even Gilbey (player of the year two years in a row at ball playing MK Dons) would look better under ‘GarnerBall’.0 - Sponsored links:
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Unlikely in terms of budget and definitely not what we’re aiming to compete with come the end of the season.addick1956 said:
The thing is that Lincoln and Shrewsbury are our level so that makes him or level too.Chunes said:Lincoln, Shrewsbury and Orient seem about Gilbey's level. Such a poor player, will not be missed.1 -
Just watch as Gilbey goes to L2 and smashes it. We all get told we should have kept him as he struggles in a newly promoted side.
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Bang on - he played in bursts and went missing a lot of the time - he’s neither a winger or a midfielder for me and am happy to see him goChunes said:
But Garner wants his midfielders to constantly show for the ball, receive it in tight areas and play. That's probably Gilbey's biggest set of weaknesses. Firstly the bravery to not hide and play football, and secondly the technique to keep the ball in tight areas.FishCostaFortune said:It’s funny what happens when you have a coaching set up which does not look to bypass the midfield.Considering on the whole how badly performing people said our midfield was last year (with the exception of Dobbo for obvious reasons of course), and how well oiled they are beginning to look this year - maybe even Gilbey (player of the year two years in a row at ball playing MK Dons) would look better under ‘GarnerBall’.
A few people did predict Gilbey would do well under Garner and yet he's being shipped on, meanwhile Albie Morgan is a starter.1 -
I always though Gilbey under delivered for us as I'm sure there is a much better player in there than we have seen. However I never dreamt that Albie could string a few games together playing at the level he is at the moment so that shows how much I know 🙄
If he leaves I would only wish him goodluck and hope he proves a success for someone else3 -
Does Cawley mean "A few" clubs interested as in 3 or 4, or does he mean "few" clubs interested which means not many, ie almost none.charlton_hero said:
The English language is a wonderful thing. Please type what you mean to say otherwise you could be sending out a very different message.3 -
I think Gilbey is a much better player than what we’ve seen from him. He’ll do well elsewhere I’m sure. No idea why it didn’t work out for him at Charlton but it sometimes happens. Good luck to him if he’s leaving.AndyG said:I always though Gilbey under delivered for us as I'm sure there is a much better player in there than we have seen. However I never dreamt that Albie could string a few games together playing at the level he is at the moment so that shows how much I know 🙄
If he leaves I would only wish him goodluck and hope he proves a success for someone else6 -
Gilbey to Lincoln on loan with a view to permanent. Apparently pretty much a done deal15
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I'll drive him there myself!NabySarr said:Gilbey to Lincoln on loan with a view to permanent. Apparently pretty much a done deal1 -
Basically Lincoln’s Cawley, confirming it’s done to them. Does Gilbey have two years left on his contract or a one year option?0 - Sponsored links:
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He is in the last year of his contract so struggling to see how it’s a loan with a view to perm? Surely just a loan and they will then sign him on a free when his contract expires ( if they still want him)NabySarr said:Gilbey to Lincoln on loan with a view to permanent. Apparently pretty much a done deal1 -
Yes you are right. Where I saw the news was the same Ryan Whelen tweet so it was from a Lincoln perspective where they are probably taking him on loan with a view to signing him permanently for freeCovered_End_Lad said:
He is in the last year of his contract so struggling to see how it’s a loan with a view to perm? Surely just a loan and they will then sign him on a free when his contract expires ( if they still want him)NabySarr said:Gilbey to Lincoln on loan with a view to permanent. Apparently pretty much a done deal2 -
If a loan he can't play against us4
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So Gilbey is the McGrandles replacement who was the.......4
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Still not sure that account is legit after he was tweeting about some McGrandles/Payne stuff earlier in the window. Have to wait and see...0
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Can only think it's with a recall clause in Jan in mind, or because Leuth was so worried about when he came up against us in the league and wrote to the club to insist it was only a loan.Covered_End_Lad said:
He is in the last year of his contract so struggling to see how it’s a loan with a view to perm? Surely just a loan and they will then sign him on a free when his contract expires ( if they still want him)NabySarr said:Gilbey to Lincoln on loan with a view to permanent. Apparently pretty much a done deal5 -
I think you would need to see the contract.Covered_End_Lad said:
He is in the last year of his contract so struggling to see how it’s a loan with a view to perm? Surely just a loan and they will then sign him on a free when his contract expires ( if they still want him)NabySarr said:Gilbey to Lincoln on loan with a view to permanent. Apparently pretty much a done dealMaybe they have the option to buy in January for instance or an additional payment due if they do sign him. Is there something in there that agrees we will not recall in January and sell him to someone else?0 -
A football site was suggesting Morgan Fox at 28 could be a good signing and could cover at CH and LB.Callumcafc said:
I am not suggesting we should, just taking the pin out and lobbing it in.20 -
The same Morgan Fox who is entering his 10th season of Championship football? Yep, I think he’d be alright. Not convinced he’s quite as good on the ball as a Garner defender might be expected to be but he’d definitely be good enough overall to be part of the squadRedrobo said:
A football site was suggesting Morgan Fox at 28 could be a good signing and could cover at CH and LB.Callumcafc said:
I am not suggesting we should, just taking the pin out and lobbing it in.2
