Summer 2022 transfer rumours (Gilbey loan confirmed p513, a signing falls through last minute p541)

Cafc43v3r said:

billysboots said:

Posh lessen their losses by selling their best players……..imagine the furore if we started doing that 

We have been doing that for the last 50 years!

Make that 60 years, Billy Bonds, Marvin Hinton, Mike Bailey, Lenny Glover off the top of the head 😉 
Edit; not forgetting Eddie Firmani of course to Sampdoria 1955.

golfaddick said:

Exiled_Addick said:

Croydon said:

Exiled_Addick said:

up_the_valley said:

Exiled_Addick said:

Perhaps it’s a case they have enquired about strikers but the ones they think will be an improvement on Stockley, who is doing better than some
will give him credit for, or Leaburn, who looks better than I think a lot of us expected, are out of reach. No point signing someone just for the sake of it. 

Or perhaps they just want to play their cards very close to their chest for fear of losing a deal by it becoming public knowledge too early.  

We’ll find out in a couple of weeks. 

If Stockley or Leaburn get injured we are up creek.... we need another striker.

IF. It’s not definitely going to happen so the management team has to balance that risk against what it will cost to sign a striker that will be worth actually adding to the wage bill. And whatever the bed wetting doom mongers will say, Aneke will be available for selection at some point.

Ideally we would be able to sign a decent striker, but this isn’t like January 2019 when we were playing 2 up front and sold Grant to leave us with only Taylor and the injured Vetokele so had to sign Parker because he was all we could get. Right now we have two decent, fit options for one position. 

If we just sign someone for the sake of it they might end being unused and  unwanted and then, in January, maybe a better option comes on the market but we already spent our budget on the d-list option.

it’s made out like it’s a black and white decision but it’s not. 

Stockley will 100% miss games this season due to injury or suspension. Leaburn is far too raw to be first choice when that happens and we simply can't be reliant on Aneke having one of his runs of actually being fit at the time. We need a striker 

We need a striker who can play up top on their own and is, at least, better than Leaburn. If players fitting that bill are too expensive, not interested in joining us, or their current club will not sell, what would you like Charlton to do about that?

Now, I don’t know for certain that that is the case, but there’s an assumption by some that the club haven’t even tried to sign a striker but I find that hard to believe. And there’s been nothing official to say they aren’t trying, just perhaps they aren’t confident they can make the deal they want happen. 

As fans on here, we’ve only identified 3 players that would fit the bill - Stockton (question marks over how good he really is and Morecambe don’t seem keen to sell), Simpson (now looks like he’s Championship bound), and Wilks (probably out of price range).

You can need something all you want, but if what you need isn’t available then you might have no choice than to make do without it. 

Players are always available for a price. Might have to push the boat out but spending an extra £250k now might mean not losing £8m next season (if we are still stuck in this division). 

Exactly, Garner has already confirmed that we don't have the budget to bring in another striker while admitting " everyone would like an additional striker". We seem to have recruited well this summer & in the new set up we are creating chances but just not taking them. We are all aware that sandgaard has cut the budget & is cost cutting across the board but it just seems crazy that having assembled an attacking team we are neglecting the final piece of the jigsaw. Whatever anyone thinks of Stockley he can't do it all alone, he needs help & an additional striker who can come on & replace or play as a two up front. Leaburn has done well but he's a boy stepping up into a mans game & needs looking after, it's too much to expect him to turn on a performance week after week. I wonder if we yet again fail to deliver & end up outside the top 6 who sandgaard will blame this time ?

mart77 said:

Richard J said:

Aaron Pierre looks an interesting option. He was Poty at Shrewsbury the year before last and as a left footer he offers us something different.

Was he a suggestion or is he a name that has been linked?

Callum suggested him earlier on.

DOUCHER said:

I actually see that interview by garner as moving us a step closer to signing mkirdy - if u take all the fluff out of the interview it basically says publicly that garner wants to sign him - everything else we already knew about really 

What I thought really. My main take away was we haven't got disposable cash in the budget to pay a transfer fee for a player when we have at least two players on the wage bill that the manager doesn't want to be here (Gilbey and JFC... and possibly McGillivray too) and potentially at least another one that had been budgeted not to be here (Kirk). We presumably knew that Garner rates McKirdy based in the tune he got out of him last season. We also knew we need to churn the squad to see more inflow. I'm not sure there's anything new apart from to actually put in black and white that Garner would like to bring McKirdy in if he could.

I feel like we are probably going to get a young PL loan centre back, as they are more likely to fit the ball playing centre back role. I don’t know much about Pierre but looking at his previous clubs I’m not sure he would fit what Garner will want 

SouthLincsAddick said:

supaclive said:

SouthLincsAddick said:

supaclive said:

If TS doesn't want to lose £8m next year he should invest money in acquiring two saleable assets that appreciate in value.

That way he won't be wasting money, he'll be investing it.

The more wins.  The higher gate receipts, Valley pass purchases, TV money, potential Championship promotion.

Buy appreciating assets
Peterborough do it
Brentford do it

McKirdy more likely to not lose value v Stockton 

Buy McKirdy

It isn't actually rocket science.

It’s so simple, why doesn’t every club do that.

Peterborough still lose around £7-8m a year and have spent most of the last 15 years in L1, we should copy them.

Because football club owners think.they know best when very few of them have football experience.

Posh also have not spent most of the last 15 seasons in League 1 and do NOT lose £7-8m per year.

Get your facts right first.....

11 of their last 15 seasons in L1 so yeah most of the time in L1. I’ll have word with my Posh supporting mate for giving me duff info on their losses. 

Genuine question though, if it’s so simple and it’s foolproof why doesn’t every club do it?

I think almost all the clubs that can afford to do it.  Most clubs aren't very good at it then get gittery and become more conservative, the same way most managers do.

Mendonca In Asdas said:

shirty5 said:

Not sure we’d want to bring him back, I think he might be past his best.

He'd play more games than A&Eke...

RonnieMoore said:

Lyle Taylor can leave on a free according to Forest today 

I think there’s more chance of me signing for. Charlton, and I’m in my 50’s!!!

He definitely didn't go to Harrogate on loan. He was in and around their team but mainly a sub when he first signed, and then last year was a regular.

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

He definitely didn't go to Harrogate on loan. He was in and around their team but mainly a sub when he first signed, and then last year was a regular.

That is correct. We tried to sign him. The then Huddersfield manager decided to not send him out on loan and he got in and around the first team. 

ISawLeaburnScore said:

DOUCHER said:

I actually see that interview by garner as moving us a step closer to signing mkirdy - if u take all the fluff out of the interview it basically says publicly that garner wants to sign him - everything else we already knew about really 

What I thought really. My main take away was we haven't got disposable cash in the budget to pay a transfer fee for a player when we have at least two players on the wage bill that the manager doesn't want to be here (Gilbey and JFC... and possibly McGillivray too) and potentially at least another one that had been budgeted not to be here (Kirk). We presumably knew that Garner rates McKirdy based in the tune he got out of him last season. We also knew we need to churn the squad to see more inflow. I'm not sure there's anything new apart from to actually put in black and white that Garner would like to bring McKirdy in if he could.

exactly - having 2 or 3 players sitting doing nothing whilst depreciating in value is poor business so the priority is to offload and put pressure on them to go - buying a striker who may well help add the extra bit needed to get promoted and who should have a sell on value who is recommended by a manager who appears to know his onions is good investment - i expect TS will know that and we will sign a striker regardless of whether we get rid first, regardless of whats being said