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Sandgaard ownership discussion 2022-3 onwards (Meeting with CAST p138)
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FAVADDICK said:
I really do believe, were in a worst place now then under roland.Dave2l said:FAVADDICK said:
"Then you should leave now, as you're not in the right job"
He's a prick.
Someone who believes he is a maverick that thinks outside the box.
Probably thinks he's a modern version of Steve jobs
You think it was hard getting rid off roland imagine what its going to be like to get rid of this ego maniac !!!
My thoughts are for the people who put a significant amount of money, time and effort towards protesting for Roland to get out of the club.
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Not as difficult as if he continues the way he’s going his money will dry up very quickly the longer we stay in this division. He’s not got the money like Duchatelet has.FAVADDICK said:
I really do believe, were in a worst place now then under roland.Dave2l said:FAVADDICK said:
"Then you should leave now, as you're not in the right job"
He's a prick.
Someone who believes he is a maverick that thinks outside the box.
Probably thinks he's a modern version of Steve jobs
You think it was hard getting rid off roland imagine what its going to be like to get rid of this ego maniac !!!5 -
But it didn't work, Roland is still very much here and it is him who has put us in a worse place.Dave2l said:FAVADDICK said:
I really do believe, were in a worst place now then under roland.Dave2l said:FAVADDICK said:
"Then you should leave now, as you're not in the right job"
He's a prick.
Someone who believes he is a maverick that thinks outside the box.
Probably thinks he's a modern version of Steve jobs
You think it was hard getting rid off roland imagine what its going to be like to get rid of this ego maniac !!!
My thoughts are for the people who put a significant amount of money, time and effort towards protesting for Roland to get out of the club.
They deserve a lot better9 -
Yep, he’s relying on promotion and/or a big sale or two.shirty5 said:
Not as difficult as if he continues the way he’s going his money will dry up very quickly the longer we stay in this division. He’s not got the money like Duchatelet has.FAVADDICK said:
I really do believe, were in a worst place now then under roland.Dave2l said:FAVADDICK said:
"Then you should leave now, as you're not in the right job"
He's a prick.
Someone who believes he is a maverick that thinks outside the box.
Probably thinks he's a modern version of Steve jobs
You think it was hard getting rid off roland imagine what its going to be like to get rid of this ego maniac !!!
We need to keep Leaburn to have a chance of promotion but he’s also the player who’s likely to attract the biggest bids.
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Anti Thomas sentiment is a negative that won't make the Club any more appealing to prospective buyers. As a support base, the best thing we can do, aside from supporting the team, is to publicize the Club in the most positive manner to attract interest.
We have good people effectively doing that already by nature of their work, but with no one with big bucks coming forward as yet, AFAIK, we need to cast the net wider. Don't ask me how. Not my field of expertise, but I know we have some creative thinkers out there.
The Club is always for sale at a price.4 -
swordfish said:Anti Thomas sentiment is a negative that won't make the Club any more appealing to prospective buyers. As a support base, the best thing we can do, aside from supporting the team, is to publicize the Club in the most positive manner to attract interest.
We have good people effectively doing that already by nature of their work, but with no one with big bucks coming forward as yet, AFAIK, we need to cast the net wider. Don't ask me how. Not my field of expertise, but I know we have some creative thinkers out there.
The Club is always for sale at a price.
Useful positive mindset.
Let's hope it happens one day and let's hope the valley gets purchased1 -
Another ex employee
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I keep seeing posts declaring we were better off under Duchatelet. Remember this, Duchatelet sold this club for a pound to ESI, that single decision almost resulted in the club going to the wall with very little hope of saving it as it become no more than an entity as Duchatelet had managed to separate the club from the ground. Duchatelet is the reason we are where we are, Sandgaard actually saved the club, any other bids such as the Varney deal were dead in the water because Duchatelet was warned off by Richard Murray, I don't think that it was difficult to persuade the Belgian though as he saw getting rid of a cash drain football club and retaining, what he see's, as prime real estate in London as a win win. Sandgaard's problems are escalating and bullshiting rather than engaging with fans will exasperate rather than help those problems. From our position Sandgaard's purchase of the club bought us time, nothing else but what needs to happen now is the someone buys the club and the infrastructure still owned by Duchatelet.31
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I agree. We shoudn't forget that Duchatelet sold to crooks with little or no dilligence. The problem still starts with him.13
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Great post.Bailey said:I keep seeing posts declaring we were better off under Duchatelet. Remember this, Duchatelet sold this club for a pound to ESI, that single decision almost resulted in the club going to the wall with very little hope of saving it as it become no more than an entity as Duchatelet had managed to separate the club from the ground. Duchatelet is the reason we are where we are, Sandgaard actually saved the club, any other bids such as the Varney deal were dead in the water because Duchatelet was warned off by Richard Murray, I don't think that it was difficult to persuade the Belgian though as he saw getting rid of a cash drain football club and retaining, what he see's, as prime real estate in London as a win win. Sandgaard's problems are escalating and bullshiting rather than engaging with fans will exasperate rather than help those problems. From our position Sandgaard's purchase of the club bought us time, nothing else but what needs to happen now is the someone buys the club and the infrastructure still owned by Duchatelet.3 - Sponsored links:
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By that same token didn’t Duchatelet “save the club” from the looming disaster at the end of the spivs reign?Bailey said:I keep seeing posts declaring we were better off under Duchatelet. Remember this, Duchatelet sold this club for a pound to ESI, that single decision almost resulted in the club going to the wall with very little hope of saving it as it become no more than an entity as Duchatelet had managed to separate the club from the ground. Duchatelet is the reason we are where we are, Sandgaard actually saved the club, any other bids such as the Varney deal were dead in the water because Duchatelet was warned off by Richard Murray, I don't think that it was difficult to persuade the Belgian though as he saw getting rid of a cash drain football club and retaining, what he see's, as prime real estate in London as a win win. Sandgaard's problems are escalating and bullshiting rather than engaging with fans will exasperate rather than help those problems. From our position Sandgaard's purchase of the club bought us time, nothing else but what needs to happen now is the someone buys the club and the infrastructure still owned by Duchatelet.0 -
The bottom line is that we seem to get shit owner after shit owner.
The law of average says it's about time we got a good one.6 -
It’s the hope that kills ya @blackpool72 🤷🏻♂️blackpool72 said:The bottom line is that we seem to get shit owner after shit owner.
The law of average says it's about time we got a good one.0 -
He did se9 but the club was in one piece and I'm not in the know enough to acknowledge if if any other bids were out there. One thing is for certain, Duchatelet was probably the richest owner in the Championship at the time and people like Richard Murray and quite a few of us thought it might be the dawning of a new successful era, it was within a few weeks and the transfer of Yann plus the sacking of Chris Powell that we all became aware of just how much we'd gone from frying pan to fire. The point I am trying to make is that since Duchatelet arrived on the scene this club has been in a downward spiral and Sandgaard and sadly his naivety are a symptom of that.se9addick said:
By that same token didn’t Duchatelet “save the club” from the looming disaster at the end of the spivs reign?Bailey said:I keep seeing posts declaring we were better off under Duchatelet. Remember this, Duchatelet sold this club for a pound to ESI, that single decision almost resulted in the club going to the wall with very little hope of saving it as it become no more than an entity as Duchatelet had managed to separate the club from the ground. Duchatelet is the reason we are where we are, Sandgaard actually saved the club, any other bids such as the Varney deal were dead in the water because Duchatelet was warned off by Richard Murray, I don't think that it was difficult to persuade the Belgian though as he saw getting rid of a cash drain football club and retaining, what he see's, as prime real estate in London as a win win. Sandgaard's problems are escalating and bullshiting rather than engaging with fans will exasperate rather than help those problems. From our position Sandgaard's purchase of the club bought us time, nothing else but what needs to happen now is the someone buys the club and the infrastructure still owned by Duchatelet.9 -
And the spivs saved it in 2010, Fryer in 1984 and the Glikstens in the 1930s.se9addick said:
By that same token didn’t Duchatelet “save the club” from the looming disaster at the end of the spivs reign?Bailey said:I keep seeing posts declaring we were better off under Duchatelet. Remember this, Duchatelet sold this club for a pound to ESI, that single decision almost resulted in the club going to the wall with very little hope of saving it as it become no more than an entity as Duchatelet had managed to separate the club from the ground. Duchatelet is the reason we are where we are, Sandgaard actually saved the club, any other bids such as the Varney deal were dead in the water because Duchatelet was warned off by Richard Murray, I don't think that it was difficult to persuade the Belgian though as he saw getting rid of a cash drain football club and retaining, what he see's, as prime real estate in London as a win win. Sandgaard's problems are escalating and bullshiting rather than engaging with fans will exasperate rather than help those problems. From our position Sandgaard's purchase of the club bought us time, nothing else but what needs to happen now is the someone buys the club and the infrastructure still owned by Duchatelet.8 -
It's almost a habit Airman, lets hope we don't break it as we need saving again.Airman Brown said:
And the spivs saved it in 2010, Fryer in 1984 and the Glikstens in the 1930s.se9addick said:
By that same token didn’t Duchatelet “save the club” from the looming disaster at the end of the spivs reign?Bailey said:I keep seeing posts declaring we were better off under Duchatelet. Remember this, Duchatelet sold this club for a pound to ESI, that single decision almost resulted in the club going to the wall with very little hope of saving it as it become no more than an entity as Duchatelet had managed to separate the club from the ground. Duchatelet is the reason we are where we are, Sandgaard actually saved the club, any other bids such as the Varney deal were dead in the water because Duchatelet was warned off by Richard Murray, I don't think that it was difficult to persuade the Belgian though as he saw getting rid of a cash drain football club and retaining, what he see's, as prime real estate in London as a win win. Sandgaard's problems are escalating and bullshiting rather than engaging with fans will exasperate rather than help those problems. From our position Sandgaard's purchase of the club bought us time, nothing else but what needs to happen now is the someone buys the club and the infrastructure still owned by Duchatelet.0 -
If it was “prime real estate” it would have been built over many years ago, not least because it was vacant for years. It’s not and that has been and is a big protection. Obviously all land in London has a value but The Valley is a problematic secondary site. I don’t think RD is completely oblivious to that but he’s not going to admit it to potential buyers.Bailey said:I keep seeing posts declaring we were better off under Duchatelet. Remember this, Duchatelet sold this club for a pound to ESI, that single decision almost resulted in the club going to the wall with very little hope of saving it as it become no more than an entity as Duchatelet had managed to separate the club from the ground. Duchatelet is the reason we are where we are, Sandgaard actually saved the club, any other bids such as the Varney deal were dead in the water because Duchatelet was warned off by Richard Murray, I don't think that it was difficult to persuade the Belgian though as he saw getting rid of a cash drain football club and retaining, what he see's, as prime real estate in London as a win win. Sandgaard's problems are escalating and bullshiting rather than engaging with fans will exasperate rather than help those problems. From our position Sandgaard's purchase of the club bought us time, nothing else but what needs to happen now is the someone buys the club and the infrastructure still owned by Duchatelet.4 -
Airman Brown said:
If it was “prime real estate” it would have been built over many years ago, not least because it was vacant for years. It’s not and that has been and is a big protection. Obviously all land in London has a value but The Valley is a problematic secondary site. I don’t think RD is completely oblivious to that but he’s not going to admit it to potential buyers.Bailey said:I keep seeing posts declaring we were better off under Duchatelet. Remember this, Duchatelet sold this club for a pound to ESI, that single decision almost resulted in the club going to the wall with very little hope of saving it as it become no more than an entity as Duchatelet had managed to separate the club from the ground. Duchatelet is the reason we are where we are, Sandgaard actually saved the club, any other bids such as the Varney deal were dead in the water because Duchatelet was warned off by Richard Murray, I don't think that it was difficult to persuade the Belgian though as he saw getting rid of a cash drain football club and retaining, what he see's, as prime real estate in London as a win win. Sandgaard's problems are escalating and bullshiting rather than engaging with fans will exasperate rather than help those problems. From our position Sandgaard's purchase of the club bought us time, nothing else but what needs to happen now is the someone buys the club and the infrastructure still owned by Duchatelet.I did state 'in his opinion' Airman. For the moment though the fact remains that he has offloaded us to TS and is getting paid rent for the pleasure of doing so. You may disagree but for me Duchatelet is still the biggest risk to Charlton's future, TS is merely a sideshow in comparison.5 -
The problem now is that for the fans to be seen to be protesting at the owner, which is at least the third time in 6 years 3 owners on the trot will not encourage anyone else to buy the club.2
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Unlikelymsomerton said:The problem now is that for the fans to be seen to be protesting at the owner, which is at least the third time in 6 years 3 owners on the trot will not encourage anyone else to buy the club.0 - Sponsored links:
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I don't know about that but I am not sure that protesting gets us anywhere. The club will be sold if someone with big enough pockets wants to buy it and take Duchatelet out at the same time.msomerton said:The problem now is that for the fans to be seen to be protesting at the owner, which is at least the third time in 6 years 3 owners on the trot will not encourage anyone else to buy the club.
Protests wouldn't bring that forward unless people think Sandgaard is the obstacle to a sale.20 -
When you say “take Duchatelet out at the same time” I assume you mean with money, not a double tap to the forehead?Airman Brown said:
I don't know about that but I am not sure that protesting gets us anywhere. The club will be sold if someone with big enough pockets wants to buy it and take Duchatelet out at the same time.msomerton said:The problem now is that for the fans to be seen to be protesting at the owner, which is at least the third time in 6 years 3 owners on the trot will not encourage anyone else to buy the club.
Protests wouldn't bring that forward unless people think Sandgaard is the obstacle to a sale.12 -
TS isn't ruining the club. The club has been a basket case for years. He just tried to make a difference. Times up I suspect. AFC Charlton anyone?1
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Have a good read of the Charlton employee/perhaps ex employees twitter feed.
https://twitter.com/RuiPintwo
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I think any protests should be aimed at drop the ego instead of get out of our club,1
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Who is Rui Pinto and how would he know about a conversation with junior staff?1
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Who cares who, fact is he is confirming a lot of the stuff suggested last season and this.Six-a-bag-of-nuts said:Who is Rui Pinto and how would he know about a conversation with junior staff?3 -
I care. I don't take shit at face value in case it is some attention seeking mug, but you crack onDazzler21 said:
Who cares who, fact is he is confirming a lot of the stuff suggested last season and this.Six-a-bag-of-nuts said:Who is Rui Pinto and how would he know about a conversation with junior staff?17 -
Appears to be a current or ex employee of the club, or someone who’s being fed info. Either way it’s fascinating to read and must have the Sandgaard family wondering who the hell is this individual.Six-a-bag-of-nuts said:Who is Rui Pinto and how would he know about a conversation with junior staff?12
