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Sandgaard ownership discussion 2022-3 onwards (Meeting with CAST p138)

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  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,880
    FAVADDICK said:
    Dave2l said:
    FAVADDICK said:


    "Then you should leave now, as you're not in the right job"

    He's a prick. 

    Someone who believes he is a maverick that thinks outside the box.

    Probably thinks he's a modern version of Steve jobs 
    I really do believe, were in a worst place now then under roland.
    You think it was hard getting rid off roland imagine what its going to be like to get rid of this ego maniac !!!

    My thoughts are for the people who put a significant amount of money, time and effort towards protesting for Roland to get out of the club.

    They deserve a lot better 
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 20,084
    FAVADDICK said:
    Dave2l said:
    FAVADDICK said:


    "Then you should leave now, as you're not in the right job"

    He's a prick. 

    Someone who believes he is a maverick that thinks outside the box.

    Probably thinks he's a modern version of Steve jobs 
    I really do believe, were in a worst place now then under roland.
    You think it was hard getting rid off roland imagine what its going to be like to get rid of this ego maniac !!!
    Not as difficult as if he continues the way he’s going his money will dry up very quickly the longer we stay in this division. He’s not got the money like Duchatelet has. 
  • Clarky
    Clarky Posts: 583
    Dave2l said:
    FAVADDICK said:
    Dave2l said:
    FAVADDICK said:


    "Then you should leave now, as you're not in the right job"

    He's a prick. 

    Someone who believes he is a maverick that thinks outside the box.

    Probably thinks he's a modern version of Steve jobs 
    I really do believe, were in a worst place now then under roland.
    You think it was hard getting rid off roland imagine what its going to be like to get rid of this ego maniac !!!

    My thoughts are for the people who put a significant amount of money, time and effort towards protesting for Roland to get out of the club.

    They deserve a lot better 
    But it didn't work, Roland is still very much here and it is him who has put us in a worse place.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 39,419
    shirty5 said:
    FAVADDICK said:
    Dave2l said:
    FAVADDICK said:


    "Then you should leave now, as you're not in the right job"

    He's a prick. 

    Someone who believes he is a maverick that thinks outside the box.

    Probably thinks he's a modern version of Steve jobs 
    I really do believe, were in a worst place now then under roland.
    You think it was hard getting rid off roland imagine what its going to be like to get rid of this ego maniac !!!
    Not as difficult as if he continues the way he’s going his money will dry up very quickly the longer we stay in this division. He’s not got the money like Duchatelet has. 
    Yep, he’s relying on promotion and/or a big sale or two.

    We need to keep Leaburn to have a chance of promotion but he’s also the player who’s likely to attract the biggest bids.
  • swordfish
    swordfish Posts: 4,335
    Anti Thomas sentiment is a negative that won't make the Club any more appealing to prospective buyers. As a support base, the best thing we can do, aside from supporting the team, is to publicize the Club in the most positive manner to attract interest.

    We have good people effectively doing that already by nature of their work, but with no one with big bucks coming forward as yet, AFAIK, we need to cast the net wider. Don't ask me how. Not my field of expertise, but I know we have some creative thinkers out there.

    The Club is always for sale at a price.
  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,880
    swordfish said:
    Anti Thomas sentiment is a negative that won't make the Club any more appealing to prospective buyers. As a support base, the best thing we can do, aside from supporting the team, is to publicize the Club in the most positive manner to attract interest.

    We have good people effectively doing that already by nature of their work, but with no one with big bucks coming forward as yet, AFAIK, we need to cast the net wider. Don't ask me how. Not my field of expertise, but I know we have some creative thinkers out there.

    The Club is always for sale at a price.

    Useful positive mindset.

    Let's hope it happens one day and let's hope the valley gets purchased
  • FAVADDICK
    FAVADDICK Posts: 622
    Another ex employee 
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 48,533
    I agree. We shoudn't forget that Duchatelet sold to crooks with little or no dilligence. The problem still starts with him.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 34,401
    Bailey said:
    I keep seeing posts declaring we were better off under Duchatelet. Remember this, Duchatelet sold this club for a pound to ESI, that single decision almost resulted in the club going to the wall with very little hope of saving it as it become no more than an entity as Duchatelet had managed to separate the club from the ground. Duchatelet is the reason we are where we are, Sandgaard actually saved the club, any other bids such as the Varney deal were dead in the water because Duchatelet was warned off by Richard Murray, I don't think that it was difficult to persuade the Belgian though as he saw getting rid of a cash drain football club and retaining, what he see's, as prime real estate in London as a win win. Sandgaard's problems are escalating and bullshiting rather than engaging with fans will exasperate rather than help those problems. From our position Sandgaard's purchase of the club bought us time, nothing else but what needs to happen now is the someone buys the club and the infrastructure still owned by Duchatelet. 
    Great post.

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  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 33,211
    Bailey said:
    I keep seeing posts declaring we were better off under Duchatelet. Remember this, Duchatelet sold this club for a pound to ESI, that single decision almost resulted in the club going to the wall with very little hope of saving it as it become no more than an entity as Duchatelet had managed to separate the club from the ground. Duchatelet is the reason we are where we are, Sandgaard actually saved the club, any other bids such as the Varney deal were dead in the water because Duchatelet was warned off by Richard Murray, I don't think that it was difficult to persuade the Belgian though as he saw getting rid of a cash drain football club and retaining, what he see's, as prime real estate in London as a win win. Sandgaard's problems are escalating and bullshiting rather than engaging with fans will exasperate rather than help those problems. From our position Sandgaard's purchase of the club bought us time, nothing else but what needs to happen now is the someone buys the club and the infrastructure still owned by Duchatelet. 
    By that same token didn’t Duchatelet “save the club” from the looming disaster at the end of the spivs reign?
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 24,726
    The bottom line is  that we seem to get shit owner after shit owner. 
    The law of average says it's about time we got a good one. 
  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,551
    blackpool72 said:
    The bottom line is  that we seem to get shit owner after shit owner. 
    The law of average says it's about time we got a good one. 
    It’s the hope that kills ya @blackpool72  🤷🏻‍♂️
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  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,936
    se9addick said:
    Bailey said:
    I keep seeing posts declaring we were better off under Duchatelet. Remember this, Duchatelet sold this club for a pound to ESI, that single decision almost resulted in the club going to the wall with very little hope of saving it as it become no more than an entity as Duchatelet had managed to separate the club from the ground. Duchatelet is the reason we are where we are, Sandgaard actually saved the club, any other bids such as the Varney deal were dead in the water because Duchatelet was warned off by Richard Murray, I don't think that it was difficult to persuade the Belgian though as he saw getting rid of a cash drain football club and retaining, what he see's, as prime real estate in London as a win win. Sandgaard's problems are escalating and bullshiting rather than engaging with fans will exasperate rather than help those problems. From our position Sandgaard's purchase of the club bought us time, nothing else but what needs to happen now is the someone buys the club and the infrastructure still owned by Duchatelet. 
    By that same token didn’t Duchatelet “save the club” from the looming disaster at the end of the spivs reign?
    And the spivs saved it in 2010, Fryer in 1984 and the Glikstens in the 1930s.
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  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,936
    edited September 2022
    Bailey said:
    I keep seeing posts declaring we were better off under Duchatelet. Remember this, Duchatelet sold this club for a pound to ESI, that single decision almost resulted in the club going to the wall with very little hope of saving it as it become no more than an entity as Duchatelet had managed to separate the club from the ground. Duchatelet is the reason we are where we are, Sandgaard actually saved the club, any other bids such as the Varney deal were dead in the water because Duchatelet was warned off by Richard Murray, I don't think that it was difficult to persuade the Belgian though as he saw getting rid of a cash drain football club and retaining, what he see's, as prime real estate in London as a win win. Sandgaard's problems are escalating and bullshiting rather than engaging with fans will exasperate rather than help those problems. From our position Sandgaard's purchase of the club bought us time, nothing else but what needs to happen now is the someone buys the club and the infrastructure still owned by Duchatelet. 
    If it was “prime real estate” it would have been built over many years ago, not least because it was vacant for years. It’s not and that has been and is a big protection. Obviously all land in London has a value but The Valley is a problematic secondary site. I don’t think RD is completely oblivious to that but he’s not going to admit it to potential buyers.
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  • msomerton
    msomerton Posts: 3,609
    The problem now is that for the fans to be seen to be protesting at the owner, which is at least the third time in 6 years 3 owners on the trot will not encourage anyone else to buy the club.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 28,675
    msomerton said:
    The problem now is that for the fans to be seen to be protesting at the owner, which is at least the third time in 6 years 3 owners on the trot will not encourage anyone else to buy the club.
    Unlikely 

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  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,957
    Airman Brown said:
    msomerton said:
    The problem now is that for the fans to be seen to be protesting at the owner, which is at least the third time in 6 years 3 owners on the trot will not encourage anyone else to buy the club.
    I don't know about that but I am not sure that protesting gets us anywhere. The club will be sold if someone with big enough pockets wants to buy it and take Duchatelet out at the same time. 

    Protests wouldn't bring that forward unless people think Sandgaard is the obstacle to a sale.
    When you say “take Duchatelet out at the same time” I assume you mean with money, not a double tap to the forehead?
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    TS isn't ruining the club. The club has been a basket case for years. He just tried to make a difference. Times up I suspect. AFC Charlton anyone?
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 53,162
    edited September 2022
    Have a good read of the Charlton employee/perhaps ex employees twitter feed.
    https://twitter.com/RuiPintwo
  • CH4RLTON
    CH4RLTON Posts: 2,674
    I think any protests should be aimed at drop the ego instead of get out of our club, 
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,564
    edited September 2022

  • Six-a-bag-of-nuts
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts Posts: 8,262
    Who is Rui Pinto and how would he know about a conversation with junior staff?
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 52,421
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts said:
    Who is Rui Pinto and how would he know about a conversation with junior staff?
    Who cares who, fact is he is confirming a lot of the stuff suggested last season and this.
  • Six-a-bag-of-nuts
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts Posts: 8,262
    Dazzler21 said:
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts said:
    Who is Rui Pinto and how would he know about a conversation with junior staff?
    Who cares who, fact is he is confirming a lot of the stuff suggested last season and this.
    I care. I don't take shit at face value in case it is some attention seeking mug, but you crack on
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 20,084
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts said:
    Who is Rui Pinto and how would he know about a conversation with junior staff?
    Appears to be a current or ex employee of the club, or someone who’s being fed info. Either way it’s fascinating to read and must have the Sandgaard family wondering who the hell is this individual. 

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