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Post-match Thread: Charlton Athletic vs Ipswich Town | Saturday 29th October 2022
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I know he hadn't been particularly great in the game apart from scoring our 2nd, but Morgan is getting some very low marks considering he had to deliver not one but two perfect balls to dig us out of that one, and did35
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Scored 1, set up 2
Sometimes I think we're expecting Pirlo !19 -
Is it just me thinking their keeper really shouldn’t of let the 4th in.9
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I reckon there's a shout of Morgan at right-back vs Coalville, just in case we need another option there. He did it against Plymouth! With everyone else dropping like flies, our many midfielders aren't. They may have to do a job elsewhere0
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I can't agree with that one Leuth. Quite simply if Albie added defensive nous to his game, he would be looking at a move to a higher division at some time. Ipswich were strong down our right-hand side and in that first half Albie could not keep up with their give and go movement, Albie's lack of defensive understanding is what's holding him back.Leuth said:I reckon there's a shout of Morgan at right-back vs Coalville, just in case we need another option there. He did it against Plymouth! With everyone else dropping like flies, our many midfielders aren't. They may have to do a job elsewhere4 -
We deserved to draw today.
their second goal from a free kit should never have happened as it was NOT a free kick.
the Referee was a f—King disgrace and should be seriously inept.
we Have a great young manager and IF our Ego
Rock N Roll owner would keep his word and get us one proper striker and another good reliable
defender we could be the best team in this league.
Ipswich Town are not that good as we can see.0 -
Perhaps. But when he's on the pitch he's capable of creating chances. Dobson and Fraser's partnership is unbreakable, so he either has to play wide or as a 10. To be honest I don't think he'd have done any less than Stockley as the 9 either. But having so many midfielders is getting to be a pain.Bailey said:
I can't agree with that one Leuth. Quite simply if Albie added defensive nous to his game, he would be looking at a move to a higher division at some time. Ipswich were strong down our right-hand side and in that first half Albie could not keep up with their give and go movement, Albie's lack of defensive understanding is what's holding him back.Leuth said:I reckon there's a shout of Morgan at right-back vs Coalville, just in case we need another option there. He did it against Plymouth! With everyone else dropping like flies, our many midfielders aren't. They may have to do a job elsewhere
McGrandles will get 90 vs Coalville in the middle, that we can say for sure0 -
He should have held on to the first two shots too.SamB09 said:Is it just me thinking their keeper really shouldn’t of let the 4th in.
Oh dear. How sad. Never mind.
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I thought that was when he trod on his foot accidentallyPaddyP17 said:One thing I remember today, beyond all the madness, is that after Rak-Sakyi accidentally left a hand in on Sam Morsy's face for an innocuous foul (but a foul nonetheless) late in the second half after a tussle, he immediately apologised. Morsy rolled around to waste time, and Rak-Sakyi went in about 30 seconds later (while Morsy was still shithousing) to apologise again. It looked absolutely genuine. We've got a good bloke there, even if he is on loan for Palace. Hopefully he stays for the season.0 -
December 1990KettsJohn said:
That was 88 or 89. I was there, standing behind the goal. Yes recall the late pen from Tommy CatonOff_it said:By the way, who else was up at Portman Road that time we drew 4-4 there? I'm sure the scoring went the same way then too ...... 0-2 down, back to 2-2, 2-4 down and then 4-4 right at the death. I'm sure we got a late penalty - Tommy Caton?
Or have I imagined all that?1 -
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Thats the beauty of the game mate and opinions. Thought the cards were stacked against us and we did well to over come them all game.Simonsen said:
2nd half was. At least, the bit I saw was. 1st half was a non-event.AFKABartram said:0 -
It wasn’t a snipe it was downright criticism when I said Garner was behaving like a prick on the match thread. I was at the game and I know the referee was an arse, they all are to an extent.Major said:
Much prefer you sniping at the opposition instead of our manager, as you did when he showed his passion to the crowd,seth plum said:
If you look hard enough at the video you can figure out their number 4 and just watch him for the whole sequence.Scoham said:
It's almost the definition of Karma.
That snipe sucked.
However our yellow and red card count last season was the worst in the division, and we are heading that way again, before yesterday Garner had already got sideline bookings, and the example/signal to the players yesterday was stupid, and felt like he was planting the seed of excuses for the score line. That led to the crowd going after the referee.
Treat referees as if they have the vagaries of the weather, you aren’t going to change anything, unless in some kind of unofficial referee union they end up saying ‘Watch out for that Charlton, they’re a dirty team, and that Garner wants to undermine you all the time’.
I notice not many are praising the referee for the time added on yesterday to compensate for the 5 minute and 44 seconds of goal celebrations* in extra time which helped our comeback.
*Got this from the Ipswich forum.13 -
Where as I agree with some of this, particularly the manager setting an example - though you could argue that his ‘passionate’ response set an example for the rest of the team to fight back - we actually are mid table in the fair play league:seth plum said:
It wasn’t a snipe it was downright criticism when I said Garner was behaving like a prick on the match thread. I was at the game and I know the referee was an arse, they all are to an extent.Major said:
Much prefer you sniping at the opposition instead of our manager, as you did when he showed his passion to the crowd,seth plum said:
If you look hard enough at the video you can figure out their number 4 and just watch him for the whole sequence.Scoham said:
It's almost the definition of Karma.
That snipe sucked.
However our yellow and red card count last season was the worst in the division, and we are heading that way again, before yesterday Garner had already got sideline bookings, and the example/signal to the players yesterday was stupid, and felt like he was planting the seed of excuses for the score line. That led to the crowd going after the referee.
Treat referees as if they have the vagaries of the weather, you aren’t going to change anything, unless in some kind of unofficial referee union they end up saying ‘Watch out for that Charlton, they’re a dirty team, and that Garner wants to undermine you all the time’.
I notice not many are praising the referee for the time added on yesterday to compensate for the 5 minute and 44 seconds of goal celebrations* in extra time which helped our comeback.
*Got this from the Ipswich forum.
https://www.transfermarkt.com/league-one/fairnesstabelle/wettbewerb/GB3
And the only reason we are as high is Inniss red cards. Our yellows are amongst the lowest in the league.7 -
I was saying to my brother that we need Aneke and CBT on at half time but we had to wait for reasons we all know about. In terms of CBT, I assume he could have played a half but we had to make the sub at the same time as Aneke due to swaps for injuries earlier. If you have one of CBT and JRS, opposing defences can double up on them. When you have two they can't. Bring Aneke on too who is a handful and it transforms our attack.
We shouldn't forget, for all his faults, Stockley has always been a handful in the past and it is a challenge to Garner to make him one again. I am a great believer in when you see something from a player, they have it in their game and with Stockley, I have seen it over a period of time. I would like to see Stockley and Aneke play together. I think that would help Stockley a lot for different but similar reasons to why we need CBT and JRS playing together. It is pretty frustrating.3 -
Fair point. There has been an improvement in cards so far.FishCostaFortune said:
Where as I agree with some of this, particularly the manager setting an example - though you could argue that his ‘passionate’ response set an example for the rest of the team to fight back - we actually are mid table in the fair play league:seth plum said:
It wasn’t a snipe it was downright criticism when I said Garner was behaving like a prick on the match thread. I was at the game and I know the referee was an arse, they all are to an extent.Major said:
Much prefer you sniping at the opposition instead of our manager, as you did when he showed his passion to the crowd,seth plum said:
If you look hard enough at the video you can figure out their number 4 and just watch him for the whole sequence.Scoham said:
It's almost the definition of Karma.
That snipe sucked.
However our yellow and red card count last season was the worst in the division, and we are heading that way again, before yesterday Garner had already got sideline bookings, and the example/signal to the players yesterday was stupid, and felt like he was planting the seed of excuses for the score line. That led to the crowd going after the referee.
Treat referees as if they have the vagaries of the weather, you aren’t going to change anything, unless in some kind of unofficial referee union they end up saying ‘Watch out for that Charlton, they’re a dirty team, and that Garner wants to undermine you all the time’.
I notice not many are praising the referee for the time added on yesterday to compensate for the 5 minute and 44 seconds of goal celebrations* in extra time which helped our comeback.
*Got this from the Ipswich forum.
https://www.transfermarkt.com/league-one/fairnesstabelle/wettbewerb/GB3
And the only reason we are as high is Inniss red cards. Our yellows are amongst the lowest in the league.1 -
What led the crowd going after the referee was that he was fucking useless.seth plum said:
It wasn’t a snipe it was downright criticism when I said Garner was behaving like a prick on the match thread. I was at the game and I know the referee was an arse, they all are to an extent.Major said:
Much prefer you sniping at the opposition instead of our manager, as you did when he showed his passion to the crowd,seth plum said:
If you look hard enough at the video you can figure out their number 4 and just watch him for the whole sequence.Scoham said:
It's almost the definition of Karma.
That snipe sucked.
However our yellow and red card count last season was the worst in the division, and we are heading that way again, before yesterday Garner had already got sideline bookings, and the example/signal to the players yesterday was stupid, and felt like he was planting the seed of excuses for the score line. That led to the crowd going after the referee.
Treat referees as if they have the vagaries of the weather, you aren’t going to change anything, unless in some kind of unofficial referee union they end up saying ‘Watch out for that Charlton, they’re a dirty team, and that Garner wants to undermine you all the time’.
I notice not many are praising the referee for the time added on yesterday to compensate for the 5 minute and 44 seconds of goal celebrations* in extra time which helped our comeback.
*Got this from the Ipswich forum.
His one saving grace was that he could actually tell the time19 -
Didn’t go to the game because of having to be elsewhere at 5pm (we got there a bit late )
Only in our fucked up household can a comeback lead to a load of agg .
i gave petrol head my iPad to watch the game on , why he geeked about on Xbox in his room
I’m downstairs with Peter Kay and boffin and little shit coming in and out to watch intermittently
everyone knows the rules shut the fuck up if you know a goal goes in on live score or soccer Saturday etc cos we’re on different timings .
i didn’t know that when our first had gone in the mrs had gone and warned petrolhead don’t cheer they’re on a different time (we were 10-15 seconds behind his feed) but we can’t hear him from the room we’re watching in .
then little shit messaged him by phone after second he wasn’t watching but could hear the different timed cheers , be quiet
as we went 2-4 down I turned the telly off but its fed by a laptop in another room which is nearer petrol head and we are watching laptop as we get ready to leave .
little shit goes and tells Petrol head hurry up we’re all getting ready to go
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me ,Peter Kay ,boffin and little shit are downstairs watching the laptop as the ball gets to Fraser and he lays it out wide , you know what happens , there’s a cheer and yell from Petrol head upstairs , we all look at each other as the ball is swung in and Dobbo heads in, we knew it was coming so the spontaneity was taken away but we all had a mad loop and then our attention turned to the fucking Wally upstairs ffs
I actually didn’t know he’d been warned, he tried to claim oh but you were all getting ready to go , poor defence (just like Charlton and Ipswich) and a lack of a sorry plus being told he’d been warned set me off on a more controlled than usual rant at the selfish twunt but we were all shell shocked that we’d won …and I reminded them that’s why you never leave early and don’t ever cheer unless you’re in the room with me again !!
thankfully my sisters , niece and nephew had used our tickets and stayed to the end and were buzzing their nuts off17 -
To be honest I was shocked to see us on so little yellows, what with the combination of flakey refs and players like Claire and Innis who like to pick them up for fun.seth plum said:
Fair point. There has been an improvement in cards so far.FishCostaFortune said:
Where as I agree with some of this, particularly the manager setting an example - though you could argue that his ‘passionate’ response set an example for the rest of the team to fight back - we actually are mid table in the fair play league:seth plum said:
It wasn’t a snipe it was downright criticism when I said Garner was behaving like a prick on the match thread. I was at the game and I know the referee was an arse, they all are to an extent.Major said:
Much prefer you sniping at the opposition instead of our manager, as you did when he showed his passion to the crowd,seth plum said:
If you look hard enough at the video you can figure out their number 4 and just watch him for the whole sequence.Scoham said:
It's almost the definition of Karma.
That snipe sucked.
However our yellow and red card count last season was the worst in the division, and we are heading that way again, before yesterday Garner had already got sideline bookings, and the example/signal to the players yesterday was stupid, and felt like he was planting the seed of excuses for the score line. That led to the crowd going after the referee.
Treat referees as if they have the vagaries of the weather, you aren’t going to change anything, unless in some kind of unofficial referee union they end up saying ‘Watch out for that Charlton, they’re a dirty team, and that Garner wants to undermine you all the time’.
I notice not many are praising the referee for the time added on yesterday to compensate for the 5 minute and 44 seconds of goal celebrations* in extra time which helped our comeback.
*Got this from the Ipswich forum.
https://www.transfermarkt.com/league-one/fairnesstabelle/wettbewerb/GB3
And the only reason we are as high is Inniss red cards. Our yellows are amongst the lowest in the league.1 -
stonemuse said:
The ginger haired lady on the bottom right is wearing a full kit.
"Full kit W....onderful beatiful woman"8 -
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As mentioned a little bit above of course the ref was pony but we had two monster calls go our way by him , firstly when Chuks threw one of their players out the way having grabbed him round the neck
then the ridiculous amount of extra time to the originally 6 minutes that allowed us to grab the equaliser, yes there had been goals but he didn’t have to play the extra 5 mins on top of the 6 mins or whatever it was, that’s definitely the most I’ve ever seen added to added when there was little injury time in it .
that was a major result of which the ref was atrocious but it worked in our favour in the end waking up the walking dead of our support and getting some fire in our bellies and then the ignoring of Chuks’s clotheslining and then we’ll play till Charlton equalise at the end .
just some level headed contrarian perspective from myself .5 -
Predicted 2-2.
So wasn't far off, great effort and well deserved point.0 -
Seem to recall a 4-4 at home to Norwich, I took my niece who said we should leave, I think we were 4-2 down.colthe3rd said:Never leave early. 🤦
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Heard the challenge from the upper north. 😂👍😂PaddyP17 said:One thing I remember today, beyond all the madness, is that after Rak-Sakyi accidentally left a hand in on Sam Morsy's face for an innocuous foul (but a foul nonetheless) late in the second half after a tussle, he immediately apologised. Morsy rolled around to waste time, and Rak-Sakyi went in about 30 seconds later (while Morsy was still shithousing) to apologise again. It looked absolutely genuine. We've got a good bloke there, even if he is on loan for Palace. Hopefully he stays for the season.0 -
If only Aneke could lose a stone in weight he’ll be ok for 90 minutes.1
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But then he wouldn’t have the heft to throw defenders to the ground like he did before our first yesterday.Jayajosh said:If only Aneke could lose a stone in weight he’ll be ok for 90 minutes.6 -
The things Aneke would have to do and the changes he would have to make to his game to be able to play 90 would stop him being the player he is. 20-30 minutes Aneke isn't the problem. It's 3 months no Aneke and the general shortage of numbers and quality.Jayajosh said:If only Aneke could lose a stone in weight he’ll be ok for 90 minutes.17 -
Leuth said:I know he hadn't been particularly great in the game apart from scoring our 2nd, but Morgan is getting some very low marks considering he had to deliver not one but two perfect balls to dig us out of that one, and did
Agree Leuth.
To be given a 4 on the Players marks when he was in the right place to score in the box for the rebound and then for the assist shows that many mark Albie Morgan on past games and not this one. Also Thomas and Lavelle had the hardest game to come back into when you are not match fit.
As I said in early August we will finish mid table because our two game changers won't play enough minutes or games.
If CBT or Aneke could stay fitter for longer they would be Championship players.
CBT, Aneke, Dobson, and Fraser are the guys we need to play every week; unfortunately that can't happen for Corey and Chuks so Mid table R'us.1 -
Still coming to terms with yesterday. I had totally forgot about the halftime stacking Icelandic fella. The match was not quite up there with the Udders classic but like that one very unlikely to be repeated. I feel fortunate to have witnessed it.2
