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POST-MATCH THREAD: Derby County V Charlton Athletic: Saturday 18th February 2023: KO 3.00 Pm

LoOkOuT
LoOkOuT Posts: 10,857
edited February 2023 in General Charlton
Charlton travelled away to Derby this afternoon in search of a good performance and a result to move further up the table. Unfortunately, Derby had other plans, which seemed to include limiting our wide play by effectively stifling Rak-Sakyi and Blackett-Taylor. Michael Hector made his full debut and got off to a rocky start when he handled the ball in the box to give Derby a penalty on about seven minutes. Once Derby went 1-0 up, they were comfortable and we never looked much like troubling them.

We kept the game close well into the second half, without ever finding a footing going forward, but once Derby scored their second, we were never going to rebound. George Dobson made a characteristically good tackle, sliding in and knocking the ball into touch deceptively with his off foot. The referee bought the Derby player’s reaction, called a foul, and booked Dobbo. The resulting free kick was swung in and put away with a header to send Derby free and clear. A bit unfair, but we weren’t really in it against a composed and effective Derby. We’re just not at their level.

Derby County 2 Charlton Athletic 0

Over to you.
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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,770
    Played 31 Won 10 Drawn 10 Lost 11

    We might just be a mid table team after all
  • Taxi_Lad
    Taxi_Lad Posts: 3,770
    LoOkOuT said:
    Charlton travelled away to Derby this afternoon in search of a good performance and a result to move further up the table. Unfortunately, Derby had other plans, which seemed to include limiting our wide play by effectively stifling Rak-Sakyi and Blackett-Taylor. Michael Hector made his full debut and got off to a rocky start when he handled the ball in the box to give Derby a penalty on about seven minutes. Once Derby went 1-0 up, they were comfortable and we never looked much like troubling them.

    We kept the game close well into the second half, without ever finding a footing going forward, but once Derby scored their second, we were never going to rebound. George Dobson made a characteristically good tackle, sliding in and knocking the ball into touch deceptively with his off foot. The referee bought the Derby player’s reaction, called a foul, and booked Dobbo. The resulting free kick was swung in and put away with a header to send Derby free and clear. A bit unfair, but we weren’t really in it against a composed and effective Derby. We’re just not at their level.

    Derby County 2 Charlton Athletic 1

    Over to you.
    did i miss our goal???
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,770
    LoOkOuT said:
    A bit unfair, but we weren’t really in it against a composed and effective Derby. We’re just not at their level.

    Derby County 2 Charlton Athletic 1

    Over to you.
    Who got the Charlton goal? :-)
  • ProperCharlton
    ProperCharlton Posts: 2,254
    edited February 2023
    Our performance was better than our previous 2 matches but still pretty shite. The fact Derby had to rebuild last summer and are still so much better than us should embarrass TS.

    We need an excellent summer transfer window if we're gonna be able to perform at a similar level to teams like Derby next season. If we're reliant on Martin and his black box again then we've got no chance.
  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,071
    We know we're not much more than a mid table L1 side. End of the season is going to be a slog just hope we can get some serious investment in the side in the summer 
  • Davo55
    Davo55 Posts: 7,836

    Comprehensively outplayed by a superior team so never really looked like coming away with anything from that game. We gave the ball away far too easily, were too often muscled off the ball and the quality of our passing and crossing was poor. Our wide players CBT and Rak-Sakyi were both way off form so we lacked any attacking threat. Hector gave away the penalty and then lost his player for their second goal. I felt a bit sorry for him as apart from this critical moments he did ok.

    Yet again, Dobson, Ness and Clare were the only players in red that looked at the same level as the opposition. Too many of our players are bang average L1 standard, so no surprise that’s reflected in our league position.

  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,572
    edited February 2023
    LoOkOuT said:
    Charlton travelled away to Derby this afternoon in search of a good performance and a result to move further up the table. Unfortunately, Derby had other plans, which seemed to include limiting our wide play by effectively stifling Rak-Sakyi and Blackett-Taylor. Michael Hector made his full debut and got off to a rocky start when he handled the ball in the box to give Derby a penalty on about seven minutes. Once Derby went 1-0 up, they were comfortable and we never looked much like troubling them.

    We kept the game close well into the second half, without ever finding a footing going forward, but once Derby scored their second, we were never going to rebound. George Dobson made a characteristically good tackle, sliding in and knocking the ball into touch deceptively with his off foot. The referee bought the Derby player’s reaction, called a foul, and booked Dobbo. The resulting free kick was swung in and put away with a header to send Derby free and clear. A bit unfair, but we weren’t really in it against a composed and effective Derby. We’re just not at their level.

    Derby County 2 Charlton Athletic 1

    Over to you.
    Nice that we got a post match goal!
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,355
    Let's pretend that we have scored...
  • AdTheAddicK
    AdTheAddicK Posts: 3,379
    Just another fantastic game in league one. 
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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,770
    At least there was some enjoyable 96th minute drama in the Premier League…
  • ProperCharlton
    ProperCharlton Posts: 2,254
    edited February 2023
    RonnieMoore said:
    Don’t think you can say there a massive difference between the two sides

    Were you watching the right game? They're so much better than us 
  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,265
    Derby are a good deal better than us but our last three games have been shockers. Get seven or eight points, sort out who's/running or owning the club and start to get some belief back in the summer. Can't keep criticising the same players, we know they are not good enough, it's been said a thousand times. 
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 3,298
    RonnieMoore said:
    Don’t think you can say there a massive difference between the two sides .. I think it’s pretty clear we can’t and don’t have the players to play 433 ..we just don’t have the quality on the flanks to create the chances .. most of Derbys best moments come from us losing the ball time and time again ….midfield totally out outplayed today there also seem to be 3 derby players to one of ours , Holden should have changed it at ht . Again I ask the question what did we create ? one chance by Bonne for Raki ?? Not good enough from the wide areas and central mid .
     Now we seen Hector think we can go 3 at the back pushing Clare up as wing back .. make us stronger in midfield . CBT and Raki would not play them next week try something different . 
    Bonne done well today did not deserve to come off .. MOM Clare he was excellent again 

    You absolute plank.
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,449
    Shows how far we are away from challenging for the play-offs. 

    Other than the keeper I don't think we had anyone of the required quality today. 
  • LoOkOuT
    LoOkOuT Posts: 10,857
    Taxi_Lad said:
    did i miss our goal???
    I’m really just going through the motions at this point!
  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 7,784
    Callumcafc said:
    At least there was some enjoyable 96th minute drama in the Premier League…
    Today really brought home to me how much Charlton have ground me down over the years.
    Following the scores, I greeted both Derby goals with a shrug and an “Oh well”.
    However, when palace scored I reacted with an “Oh for f**k sake” and when Brentford scored, I punched the air and went “Get in! Have that you stripy twats!”

    I’m not happy about this. The fate of some spotty virgins down the road shouldn’t get more of a reaction than my own team, but there it is.
    This club has broken me.
  • ct_addick
    ct_addick Posts: 4,333
    RonnieMoore said:
    Don’t think you can say there a massive difference between the two sides .. I think it’s pretty clear we can’t and don’t have the players to play 433 ..we just don’t have the quality on the flanks to create the chances .. most of Derbys best moments come from us losing the ball time and time again ….midfield totally out outplayed today there also seem to be 3 derby players to one of ours , Holden should have changed it at ht . Again I ask the question what did we create ? one chance by Bonne for Raki ?? Not good enough from the wide areas and central mid .
     Now we seen Hector think we can go 3 at the back pushing Clare up as wing back .. make us stronger in midfield . CBT and Raki would not play them next week try something different . 
    Bonne done well today did not deserve to come off .. MOM Clare he was excellent again 

    Yes there was. They had a desire to win every ball and work their socks from the kick off. You must be watching another game as Bonne was shite.
  • ozaddick
    ozaddick Posts: 2,846
    Rather crap wasn't it. We just don't have a good enough squad to compete in the top half of the league, and that speaks volumes. 
  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 10,773
    A frustrating game, which shows exactly why we are where we are.

    Derby played well, they moved the ball quickly and decisively, and defended and pressed exceptionally. They are a team full of championship quality players so it’s not hard to see why, and people should be looking at how good they are before looking at how poor we were.

    And to that point. I don’t think we were terrible at all - but we were so bad in key moments particularly in the attacking third.

    For all Derbys swift attacking play we essentially gifted them both their goals, and in reverse whenever we got the ball into a good position they had to do nothing special to defend it.

    We really need to figure out how to use our CF more effectively, especially when JRS gets marked out the game. Leaburn might have more of the attributes to be in the game more in that position, but on the whole it’s going to be difficult for anyone if they are always so isolated. 

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  • lancashire lad
    lancashire lad Posts: 15,626
    there was no way we were going to score today, very poor going forward 
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,038
    edited February 2023
    That’s another example, after Bolton a couple of weeks ago, of how far we are from being competitive in this league. 
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,319
    That was depressing. But what was worst was that Derby fucking fill their stadium. The tannoy announced an attendance number slightly higher than The Valley's capacity. Derby have been shit for ages and have had their own ownership nonsense and they fucking fill their stadium. What do we do? 
  • ct_addick
    ct_addick Posts: 4,333
    Clare was repeatedly beaten and let them cross every time.....he is not a defender. Dobson is not Pirlo...his passing was awful today....he is limited in what he can do but gives 100% every game. Fraser is class at times but wants too long on the ball. CBT shite and so was Rak-Saki. Aneke with the worst shooting display I have ever seen.  Morgan being Morgan and Payne couldn't beat the first defender with his crosses. A pretty all round shite performance.
  • Redmidland
    Redmidland Posts: 44,700
    edited February 2023
    Only listened to the game, and it just sounded like one way traffic most of the game, with a few fleeting moments from us.
    It's down to both the Sangaards that we are so far away from a top six place. Its time Tommy and his family gave up and give us a chance to build for next season. If they stay in charge we are going nowhere! DH needs to be kept on and needs to be fully supported by an owner(s) prepared to back him and stop cost cutting.
    Can't really add anything else.

    Edit. Just to add, Curbs is saying ownership needs sorting, DH needs signing up. Brownie saying we have no plan with this ownership and Ducktape in the background! 
    No doubt both will be sacked tomorrow!
    Further Edit
    Scotty also saying the club needs stabilising off the pitch....I guess that means Charlton TV will now be shut down tomorrow morning!
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,461
    Curbs and Browny just summed it up for me.

    The club from top to bottom is a complete mess.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,630
    se9addick said:
    That’s another example, after Bolton a couple of weeks ago, of how far we are from being competitive in this league. 
    Which will be even more highlighted when we play the League leaders next week. 

    Tough 3 games coming up. Don't think we will be dragged into a relegation scrap but will soon be in the bottom half looking at the likes of Port Vale above us. 

    Cant wait for the season to end & for the summer rebuild to start  😆😆😆😆
  • ct_addick
    ct_addick Posts: 4,333
    Did anyone see DH interview? Charlton TV cut out on me again
  • RaplhMilne
    RaplhMilne Posts: 4,603
    Totally expected result, so knowing that before kick off means, the actual eventually of it, really means very little. So, off to see Peter Kay shortly, and can instantly forget how much, my beloved club has sank into the dross of mid table league one nothingness…… 
  • Karim_myBagheri
    Karim_myBagheri Posts: 12,725
    Leuth said:
    That was depressing. But what was worst was that Derby fucking fill their stadium. The tannoy announced an attendance number slightly higher than The Valley's capacity. Derby have been shit for ages and have had their own ownership nonsense and they fucking fill their stadium. What do we do? 
    do you even know who Charlton is? Derby have a whole city to call on plus the surrounding areas. They have been a big club in the past. 
    We have been a local London club competing with plenty of bigger clubs. I would be surprised if they didn't have a bigger attendance. When we were in the top league we were always punching above our weight. Lennie, curbs and even seed. 

    Oh and we have been shit for years as well with worse shit going on behind the scenes.

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