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  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,256
    Covered_End_Lad said:
    RedRobin said:
    Starinnaddick said:
    Is Steven Sessegnon out of contract at Fulham this summer ? 
    Pretty sure he signed a new deal at Fulham before joining us. 
    He’s out of contract, Fulham have an option to extend for 1 more year however as yet they have not triggered it.

    I don’t think they will, but he will probably get better offers from the Championship than we can give him.

    strangely the only reason we have a chance is the bad knee.
    Personally, and I understand he’s got a knee problem and is right footed playing at left back, but I wasn’t that impressed with him.  Will probably get a better team than us next season, maybe, but overall, I didn’t think ‘what a loss’ when he couldn’t play sometimes last season 

    I may well be proven wrong and he goes on to bigger and better things, but I didn’t get a wow factor from him as anything special 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,883
    cabbles said:
    Covered_End_Lad said:
    RedRobin said:
    Starinnaddick said:
    Is Steven Sessegnon out of contract at Fulham this summer ? 
    Pretty sure he signed a new deal at Fulham before joining us. 
    He’s out of contract, Fulham have an option to extend for 1 more year however as yet they have not triggered it.

    I don’t think they will, but he will probably get better offers from the Championship than we can give him.

    strangely the only reason we have a chance is the bad knee.
    Personally, and I understand he’s got a knee problem and is right footed playing at left back, but I wasn’t that impressed with him.  Will probably get a better team than us next season, maybe, but overall, I didn’t think ‘what a loss’ when he couldn’t play sometimes last season 

    I may well be proven wrong and he goes on to bigger and better things, but I didn’t get a wow factor from him as anything special 
    I'd be happy to sign him, but wasn't overwhelmed by him either. Indeed that gives us a chance of signing him, as it wasn't as if he was talked about outside the club as one of the stars of the division.

    DaSilva and Maatsen stood out far more as being clearly better than L1.
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    edited May 2023
    Is the retained list thread the new "managing expectations" transfer rumours thread? 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,231
    Covered_End_Lad said:
    RedRobin said:
    Starinnaddick said:
    Is Steven Sessegnon out of contract at Fulham this summer ? 
    Pretty sure he signed a new deal at Fulham before joining us. 
    He’s out of contract, Fulham have an option to extend for 1 more year however as yet they have not triggered it.

    I don’t think they will, but he will probably get better offers from the Championship than we can give him.

    strangely the only reason we have a chance is the bad knee.

    As Steven Sessegnon struggled to play two games in a row because of his knee, I'm surprised that no operation is needed.

    Why will it be any different next season ?

    Hope for Steven's sake it not a Chris Solly type problem.
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,406
    It's probably likely that his knee issue is relating to the articular cartilage, bone-on-bone issues which can rarely be treated with an op. Unless the knee jelly transplant industry has made huge strides in recent years.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,386
    Can’t be much longer until the u18s retained list comes out?
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,294
    Scoham said:
    Can’t be much longer until the u18s retained list comes out?
    Will probably be after their last game 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,386
    Good point!
  • Fansince1963
    Fansince1963 Posts: 193
    Why was Conor Washington let go. He scored 11 league last season with Stockley scored 13 goals. Without Conor , Stockley only scored 2 league goals. Our performance went downhill.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,016
    Fansince1963 said:
    Why was Conor Washington let go. He scored 11 league last season with Stockley scored 13 goals. Without Conor , Stockley only scored 2 league goals. Our performance went downhill.
    Because he/his agent blabbed about JJ not being offered a new contract (effectively sacked).
    Plus he was on a high wage, so a good excuse to not renew his contract (allegedly).

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  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,357
    SELR_addicks said:
    https://www.charltonafc.com/news/retained-list-squad-update

    Charlton have offered new contracts to Michael Hector, Aaron Henry and Terell Thomas.

    Macauley Bonne, Sean Clare, Alex Gilbey, Nathan Harness, Ryan Inniss and Albie Morgan will all leave the club following the expiration of their contracts this summer.


    The following players are set to return to the club following loan spells during the 2022/23 season: Richard Chin, Deji Elerewe, Diallang Jaiyesimi, Charlie Kirk, Sam Lavelle, Conor McGrandles.

    The following players will leave the club following the expiration of their contracts: Macauley Bonne, Sean Clare, Alex Gilbey, Nathan Harness, Ryan Inniss, Albie Morgan.

    The following players will leave the club following the expiration of their loan deals: Todd Kane, Gavin Kilkenny, Matt Penney, Jes Rak-Sakyi, Steven Sessegnon.

    I can't see that any of the highlighted have a future with us
  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 5,911
    Lincsaddick said:
    SELR_addicks said:
    https://www.charltonafc.com/news/retained-list-squad-update

    Charlton have offered new contracts to Michael Hector, Aaron Henry and Terell Thomas.

    Macauley Bonne, Sean Clare, Alex Gilbey, Nathan Harness, Ryan Inniss and Albie Morgan will all leave the club following the expiration of their contracts this summer.


    The following players are set to return to the club following loan spells during the 2022/23 season: Richard Chin, Deji Elerewe, Diallang Jaiyesimi, Charlie Kirk, Sam Lavelle, Conor McGrandles.

    The following players will leave the club following the expiration of their contracts: Macauley Bonne, Sean Clare, Alex Gilbey, Nathan Harness, Ryan Inniss, Albie Morgan.

    The following players will leave the club following the expiration of their loan deals: Todd Kane, Gavin Kilkenny, Matt Penney, Jes Rak-Sakyi, Steven Sessegnon.

    I can't see that any of the highlighted have a future with us
    Not Deji ??
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,736
    Fansince1963 said:
    Why was Conor Washington let go. He scored 11 league last season with Stockley scored 13 goals. Without Conor , Stockley only scored 2 league goals. Our performance went downhill.
    Stats wise he was named in the championship's 'worst team of the year'
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,883
    Over a week since the announcement and no news about whether Hector, Thomas and Henry will sign
  • Six-a-bag-of-nuts
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts Posts: 8,127
    killerandflash said:
    Over a week since the announcement and no news about whether Hector, Thomas and Henry will sign

    They're probably waiting for a better offer from elsewhere.
    Failing that they will sign late on
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,357
    AndyG said:
    Lincsaddick said:
    SELR_addicks said:
    https://www.charltonafc.com/news/retained-list-squad-update

    Charlton have offered new contracts to Michael Hector, Aaron Henry and Terell Thomas.

    Macauley Bonne, Sean Clare, Alex Gilbey, Nathan Harness, Ryan Inniss and Albie Morgan will all leave the club following the expiration of their contracts this summer.


    The following players are set to return to the club following loan spells during the 2022/23 season: Richard Chin, Deji Elerewe, Diallang Jaiyesimi, Charlie Kirk, Sam Lavelle, Conor McGrandles.

    The following players will leave the club following the expiration of their contracts: Macauley Bonne, Sean Clare, Alex Gilbey, Nathan Harness, Ryan Inniss, Albie Morgan.

    The following players will leave the club following the expiration of their loan deals: Todd Kane, Gavin Kilkenny, Matt Penney, Jes Rak-Sakyi, Steven Sessegnon.

    I can't see that any of the highlighted have a future with us
    Not Deji ??
    possibly ..  am I right in guessing that he has been playing up front for Bromley ? .. If so and if he can get a bit of fire in his belly, he could develop into a much needed striker for us
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,357
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts said:
    killerandflash said:
    Over a week since the announcement and no news about whether Hector, Thomas and Henry will sign

    They're probably waiting for a better offer from elsewhere.
    Failing that they will sign late on
    I suspect that better offers will be very few and far between
  • Southbank
    Southbank Posts: 5,258
    So half of Holden's first team have gone and 2 more yet to sign.
    He may have to create almost an entire new first 11, bar the goalie, Dobson  Leaburn and Fraser
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,386
    Lincsaddick said:
    AndyG said:
    Lincsaddick said:
    SELR_addicks said:
    https://www.charltonafc.com/news/retained-list-squad-update

    Charlton have offered new contracts to Michael Hector, Aaron Henry and Terell Thomas.

    Macauley Bonne, Sean Clare, Alex Gilbey, Nathan Harness, Ryan Inniss and Albie Morgan will all leave the club following the expiration of their contracts this summer.


    The following players are set to return to the club following loan spells during the 2022/23 season: Richard Chin, Deji Elerewe, Diallang Jaiyesimi, Charlie Kirk, Sam Lavelle, Conor McGrandles.

    The following players will leave the club following the expiration of their contracts: Macauley Bonne, Sean Clare, Alex Gilbey, Nathan Harness, Ryan Inniss, Albie Morgan.

    The following players will leave the club following the expiration of their loan deals: Todd Kane, Gavin Kilkenny, Matt Penney, Jes Rak-Sakyi, Steven Sessegnon.

    I can't see that any of the highlighted have a future with us
    Not Deji ??
    possibly ..  am I right in guessing that he has been playing up front for Bromley ? .. If so and if he can get a bit of fire in his belly, he could develop into a much needed striker for us
    BBC match reports put him up front in one game and on the left wing in another (not looked at any more). I assume they're just inaccurate line ups, one of them also has our ex player James Vennings shown as playing centre back when he's a central midfielder.
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,357
    Southbank said:
    So half of Holden's first team have gone and 2 more yet to sign.
    He may have to create almost an entire new first 11, bar the goalie, Dobson  Leaburn and Fraser
    which might not be as bad as it seems at first glance

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  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,468
    killerandflash said:
    Over a week since the announcement and no news about whether Hector, Thomas and Henry will sign
    I suspect all three will have other offers, plus because of the World Cup the playoffs haven't even finished yet. I expect a lot of people will be on holiday right now. I would expect it to be another couple of weeks at least before we hear anything definitive on Hector. Maybe sooner with Thomas and Henry who I suspect will have less interest. 
  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,359
    edited May 2023
    There will be a date, when they will have to commit by, or not...
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,468
    Redhenry said:
    There will be a date, when they will have to commit by, or not...
    Right, I just don't think that date will be in May. Holden says negotiations are ongoing. It tends to be the case that we don't hear much about these negotiations until the final outcome, which is why I wouldn't read too much into things right now.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,386
  • Sillybilly
    Sillybilly Posts: 9,236
    Covered End said:
    Fansince1963 said:
    Why was Conor Washington let go. He scored 11 league last season with Stockley scored 13 goals. Without Conor , Stockley only scored 2 league goals. Our performance went downhill.
    Because he/his agent blabbed about JJ not being offered a new contract (effectively sacked).
    Plus he was on a high wage, so a good excuse to not renew his contract (allegedly).
    Plus he was pretty shyte. It wasn’t releasing him that was the issue, it was not replacing him with better. 
  • kafka
    kafka Posts: 2,369

    some biggish clubs allegedly chasing Clare. What are they seeing in him? Has some talent but is poor at reading the game 

    https://the72.co.uk/2023/05/26/qpr-and-derby-county-among-sides-keen-on-departing-charlton-athletic-man-report-claims/
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,003
    kafka said:

    some biggish clubs allegedly chasing Clare. What are they seeing in him? Has some talent but is poor at reading the game 

    https://the72.co.uk/2023/05/26/qpr-and-derby-county-among-sides-keen-on-departing-charlton-athletic-man-report-claims/
    Versatility and athleticism mostly. Very useful to have on the bench as he can cover 3-4 different positions in a pinch.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,386
    kafka said:

    some biggish clubs allegedly chasing Clare. What are they seeing in him? Has some talent but is poor at reading the game 

    https://the72.co.uk/2023/05/26/qpr-and-derby-county-among-sides-keen-on-departing-charlton-athletic-man-report-claims/
    Not the most reliable source. Agent trying to drum up interest?
  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,359
    Deffo
  • SporadicAddick
    SporadicAddick Posts: 6,873
    kafka said:

    some biggish clubs allegedly chasing Clare. What are they seeing in him? Has some talent but is poor at reading the game 

    https://the72.co.uk/2023/05/26/qpr-and-derby-county-among-sides-keen-on-departing-charlton-athletic-man-report-claims/
    Better than us.

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