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Summer Transfer Rumours - Deadline Day p446
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lancashire lad said:BBC gossip reporting that Shelvey is available???1
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Isaak Davies... Another Striker we're being linked with then
Same height as Alfie May, 21-years old... Has three goals for Cardiff0 -
ForeverAddickted said:Isaak Davies... Another Striker we're being linked with then
Same height as Alfie May, 21-years old... Has three goals for Cardiff9 -
ForeverAddickted said:Isaak Davies... Another Striker we're being linked with then
Same height as Alfie May, 21-years old... Has three goals for Cardiff1 -
killerandflash said:Sage said:Despite being wholly unrealistic and potentially very pointless
I’d love for us to sign…
Sessegnon, Edun, Camara, Dack, and Clarke-Harris plus another 3 very good loan players with one or two being top youngsters from the Premier League.
Then we can sell Kirk and DJ, maybe McGrandles. Loan out Chin, Kanu, and maybe Henry for 6 months.
Then we can have a team looking like:
Isted/AMB
Ness Hector Jones
Egbo Dobson Fraser Edun
Dack
May Clarke-Harris
AMB/Isted, Sessegnon, Thomas, Camara, Payne, CBT, Leaburn
Elewere, Mitchell, Asiimwe, Campbell, Aneke all pushing for the squad/fitness.
This is also still without the 3 top loan players too.
Guaranteed goals with May and Clarke-Harris, and Dack and Fraser behind. Got pace out wide and off the bench with CBT, and more goals from the bench with Leaburn.
Promotion here we come!0 -
limeygent said:killerandflash said:Sage said:Despite being wholly unrealistic and potentially very pointless
I’d love for us to sign…
Sessegnon, Edun, Camara, Dack, and Clarke-Harris plus another 3 very good loan players with one or two being top youngsters from the Premier League.
Then we can sell Kirk and DJ, maybe McGrandles. Loan out Chin, Kanu, and maybe Henry for 6 months.
Then we can have a team looking like:
Isted/AMB
Ness Hector Jones
Egbo Dobson Fraser Edun
Dack
May Clarke-Harris
AMB/Isted, Sessegnon, Thomas, Camara, Payne, CBT, Leaburn
Elewere, Mitchell, Asiimwe, Campbell, Aneke all pushing for the squad/fitness.
This is also still without the 3 top loan players too.
Guaranteed goals with May and Clarke-Harris, and Dack and Fraser behind. Got pace out wide and off the bench with CBT, and more goals from the bench with Leaburn.
Promotion here we come!16 -
Have we been linked to a single player in the last two years who wasn’t also linked to Oxford12
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We need some power in the midfield, someone who can dish it out physically, and strong on the ball. Will help Dobson and Fraser out a lot3
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Smithy said:Have we been linked to a single player in the last two years who wasn’t also linked to Oxford7
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If Fraser is used properly I think he’d be good enough. He needs to be in a more advanced role as he becomes ineffective when he has to worry about defensive duties.3
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Fraser is qualify, just a bit of luxury player, he needs better players around him and we’ll see how good he really is.
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Cafc43v3r said:Smithy said:If Fraser is used properly I think he’d be good enough. He needs to be in a more advanced role as he becomes ineffective when he has to worry about defensive duties.2
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Cafc43v3r said:Rothko said:We need some power in the midfield, someone who can dish it out physically, and strong on the ball. Will help Dobson and Fraser out a lot1
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Smithy said:Cafc43v3r said:Smithy said:If Fraser is used properly I think he’d be good enough. He needs to be in a more advanced role as he becomes ineffective when he has to worry about defensive duties.
We have played him as a "10" at times, under both Garner and Holden.1 -
If we are gonna build a midfield and we can't get Dobson and Fraser to work together, I would pick Fraser any day of the week.
He's a victim of being surrounded by players not up to his technical ability, he was far more consistent in midfield than Dobson last season and even looked like his energy levels had risen, I feel like if you stick Dobbo in most sides he's gonna do a job cause he has a good engine and can put in a tackle.
When you look at Dobson though all of his highlights are recovering a players mistake or his own (barring the Ipswich goal of course and the nutmeg). Dobson needs to show more for me this season, needs to control that midfield more and be a proper anchor, right now he's not top 6 standard, Fraser looks more likely to drive us that way.9 -
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Braziliance said:If we are gonna build a midfield and we can't get Dobson and Fraser to work together, I would pick Fraser any day of the week.
He's a victim of being surrounded by players not up to his technical ability, he was far more consistent in midfield than Dobson last season and even looked like his energy levels had risen, I feel like if you stick Dobbo in most sides he's gonna do a job cause he has a good engine and can put in a tackle.
When you look at Dobson though all of his highlights are recovering a players mistake or his own (barring the Ipswich goal of course and the nutmeg). Dobson needs to show more for me this season, needs to control that midfield more and be a proper anchor, right now he's not top 6 standard, Fraser looks more likely to drive us that way.18 -
Braziliance said:If we are gonna build a midfield and we can't get Dobson and Fraser to work together, I would pick Fraser any day of the week.
He's a victim of being surrounded by players not up to his technical ability, he was far more consistent in midfield than Dobson last season and even looked like his energy levels had risen, I feel like if you stick Dobbo in most sides he's gonna do a job cause he has a good engine and can put in a tackle.
When you look at Dobson though all of his highlights are recovering a players mistake or his own (barring the Ipswich goal of course and the nutmeg). Dobson needs to show more for me this season, needs to control that midfield more and be a proper anchor, right now he's not top 6 standard, Fraser looks more likely to drive us that way.5 -
Cafc43v3r said:Rothko said:We need some power in the midfield, someone who can dish it out physically, and strong on the ball. Will help Dobson and Fraser out a lot
They played together last season & we finished mid table. Yes, we have got rid of Morgan but current Henry is taking his place who (imo) is even worse.
Really need to beef up our midfield, esp if we are going to play 3-5-2.
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He will probably have championship interest but I think Anfernee Dijksteel will be on the move this summer. Would fit in at RWB or RCB in our 3-5-24
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I am absolutely sure that if you stick a fit Camara into that midfield, they’re comfortably a top 6 trio in this league one. They have everything between them: Energy, tenacity, skill, passing, some goals and tackling. If we can find two fit, fast, footballing wing backs to play either side and a partner for May (Leaburn isn’t fit for the start of the season), we will definitely be top 6 going forward.6
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RC_CAFC said:I am absolutely sure that if you stick a fit Camara into that midfield, they’re comfortably a top 6 trio in this league one. They have everything between them: Energy, tenacity, skill, passing, some goals and tackling. If we can find two fit, fast, footballing wing backs to play either side and a partner for May (Leaburn isn’t fit for the start of the season), we will definitely be top 6 going forward.1
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@sam3110 @bolloxbolder
They play different roles, but Fraser is better at what he does than Dobson does.
If we are talking energy and as a defensive minded midfielder then there is no contest, but when you look at other midfielders qualities (which are imperative) such as ball control, awareness, carrying the ball, passing range, attacking influence, footballer IQ, then there is no contest.
Stats don't tell the whole story but they can give an insight, to say Fraser is nowhere near Dobson's performance levels is a very dramatic comment
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I think Dobson and Fraser compliment each other because they offer totally different things. The key is that third midfielder has to be much better than Morgan.8
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So you admit they play different roles, then try to compare the two.
For parts of last season Fraser was shit, and Dobson was still dragging the team through. Fraser is a luxury player and, let's be honest here, easily replaced by many decent ball playing midfielders that aren't the most mobile.
Dobson is a lot harder to replace, the bloke has one of the highest tackle/block success rates in the whole of the football league, and has that thing no statsheet will tell you, natural leadership.
Dobson is more influential to the team overall and the way we play, and therefore more important.12 -
MuttleyCAFC said:I think Dobson and Fraser compliment each other because they offer totally different things. The key is that third midfielder has to be much better than Morgan.7