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Summer Transfer Rumours - Deadline Day p446

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  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,504
    killerandflash said:
    Tonight must be a massive wake up call, about the gaps in our squad.
    Why you don’t change all 11 players for a league match .. individually fitting into the first team the players can do a job 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,169
    MarcusH26 said:
    Surely if TC is out long term , an attacking piece by Saturday is a must - I'm not as low as a lot of people on Kirk but he's never a central striker. Might have to be a 433 but that doesn't really get the best out of May. 
    Absolutely no way a striker signs, trains and is ready to play by Saturday.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,330
    fenaddick said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    Surely if TC is out long term , an attacking piece by Saturday is a must - I'm not as low as a lot of people on Kirk but he's never a central striker. Might have to be a 433 but that doesn't really get the best out of May. 
    Absolutely no way a striker signs, trains and is ready to play by Saturday.
    How soon we forget David Mooney
  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,359
    Explain why that's a lol pls?
  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,359
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Redhenry said:
    Explain why that's a lol pls?
    Because they've been in place for two weeks

    They've had input since the January transfer window
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,436
    edited August 2023
    Havent had control though... and we're two games into the season, how can anyone make serious judgement after then

    So you'll have to excuse me for finding your comment funny

    Edit: You could make the argument that Sandgaard not selling up sooner when he had plenty of opportunities has been the problem
  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,198
    I can see both sides of this, but ultimately I think we have to delay judgement until the window closes. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,436
    Uboat said:
    I can see both sides of this, but ultimately I think we have to delay judgement until the window closes. 
     - Closure of the Transfer Window
     - 10-15 games (depending on your preference) into the season

    Should be the first benchmarks on how a season will turn out
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  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,051
    Don't know how realistic this actually is but 4 in 4 out (excluding young players going on loan) before the close of the window would be nice. Think the outs are pretty obvious but I'd like 2 quality strikers , a creative midfielder and an RWB in. 

    Not judging anything until 10-15 games is very fair , enough time to get the likes of Edun,Jones and Taylor fully up to full fitness too. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,874
    I think we'd be in a much better place if the takeover had happened a month earlier, 
  • Mendonca In Asdas
    Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,652
    When the penny drops (see what I did there) and the board realises we are a half finished job, I hope we don’t panic, and bring in a load of dross at the last minute for the sake of it.

    My sensible head says we’ve got some quality prem signings coming in at the last minute, both scenarios can’t be right!
  • SwingForward
    SwingForward Posts: 146
    As no more Carabo Cup that will start the sales now as no need for fringe players as nothing to play them in ! - Egbo , Kirk , McGrandles , DJ , as well as a couple out on Loans - which will make room for another striker and maybe a couple of loans. DH last night gave the squad players a chance to impress him and quite obviously they didnt so he will trim that squad of players that are surplus to his requirements, 
    Can see us going all out for Nbombe now at Exeter. 
  • mart77
    mart77 Posts: 5,658
    The two main parties are starting to form after the first loss of the season and squad shortcomings can be clearly seen: 



  • Mendonca In Asdas
    Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,652
    SwingForward said:
    As no more Carabo Cup that will start the sales now as no need for fringe players as nothing to play them in ! - Egbo , Kirk , McGrandles , DJ , as well as a couple out on Loans - which will make room for another striker and maybe a couple of loans. DH last night gave the squad players a chance to impress him and quite obviously they didnt so he will trim that squad of players that are surplus to his requirements, 
    Can see us going all out for Nbombe now at Exeter. 
    I like your positivity, and hope you’re right!
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,625
    I’m not in the slightest interested in last nights cup exit. An unnecessary distraction and worthless apart from getting some players some minutes. We’re obviously struggling with depth of squad and a couple of areas of the team have gaping holes. As long as the remainder of the window addresses this I’ll be happy. Most important now is that until the squad gets the necessary uplifts that we hang in there with points and stay in touch with the early pacesetters. Peterborough will be a huge test and we really need to come away with a point. We really don’t want to fall any more than six points off top four although I think we might. Very important three weeks now. Crucial in fact.
  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,359
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Havent had control though... and we're two games into the season, how can anyone make serious judgement after then

    So you'll have to excuse me for finding your comment funny

    Edit: You could make the argument that Sandgaard not selling up sooner when he had plenty of opportunities has been the problem
    Hence my comment, they have time to change this.

    Am I the only one worried about the lack of first team players, i think we have been lucky with the academy players filling the gaps.

  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,359
    edited August 2023
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Havent had control though... and we're two games into the season, how can anyone make serious judgement after then

    So you'll have to excuse me for finding your comment funny

    Edit: You could make the argument that Sandgaard not selling up sooner when he had plenty of opportunities has been the problem
    I hope your right, I really do.
    The lack of a significant early investment is a worry for me. They need to go out and buy a striker...
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,175
    Croydon said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    Croydon said:
    The likes of Payne, Kirk and McGrandles aren't good enough to be squad players of a promotion winning side. Can't believe anybody thought they were.
    Think that depends how much they play and how fit the main players are. Under Bowyer, other than a really good 3rd CB and maybe one midfielder, the squad really wasn't that strong. Ultimately that cost us automatic promotion but we still squeezed up. Kirk I definitely agree with and I don't think many people disagreed, especially in a 352 but McGrandles and Payne as 6th and 7th choice CM shouldn't really be an obstacle to promotion if the first 5 are good enough. 
    Who in league one has 6th and 7th choice players though? Especially ones on starting 11 wages? Get rid and free up squad/wage space for some quality 
    They're not really 6th or 7th choice though. You have to have 6 CMs if you play a 3 midfielder setup. Two for each role, so Payne isn't 6th choice so much as he's second choice in the attacking midfield role. We saw it last night; Dobson, Anderson and Fraser swapped with McGrandles, Camara and Payne. If we're that high on Anderson then McGrandles might go but we're not sat with a 6th choice Jack Payne kicking his heels, if Fraser gets injured he'll be required to step in. If Dobson is injured it'll be Taylor. If you get rid of Payne you'll have to replace him with another second choice attacking midfielder and I reckon it'll cost a lot more than keeping him, and that money then can't be spent on places where we're actually short like up front and at WB.
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  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 10,773
    edited August 2023
    killerandflash said:
    I think we'd be in a much better place if the takeover had happened a month earlier, 
    I am not sure we would be in much a different position to be honest, though I suppose you could argue with the stability we could have shipped some ‘squad’ players out and replaced them with better ‘squad’ players.

    Proof will be in the pudding, but if we are a holding out for someone the quality of Nombe up front (a key player in their current team) and in the other positions we need then the likelihood is that those are the sort of transfer that would happen towards the backend of the window.


  • alburyaddick
    alburyaddick Posts: 574
    Redhenry said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Havent had control though... and we're two games into the season, how can anyone make serious judgement after then

    So you'll have to excuse me for finding your comment funny

    Edit: You could make the argument that Sandgaard not selling up sooner when he had plenty of opportunities has been the problem
    Hence my comment, they have time to change this.

    Am I the only one worried about the lack of first team players, i think we have been lucky with the academy players filling the gaps.

    I think you are correct. The lack of strikers - we definitely need 2 - will mean low goals scored and and more defending required because the ball doesn’t stick up front - I think by the end of Aug we will be at the lower end of the table unless the striker problem is fixed quickly 
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,001
    Redhenry said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Havent had control though... and we're two games into the season, how can anyone make serious judgement after then

    So you'll have to excuse me for finding your comment funny

    Edit: You could make the argument that Sandgaard not selling up sooner when he had plenty of opportunities has been the problem
    Hence my comment, they have time to change this.

    Am I the only one worried about the lack of first team players, i think we have been lucky with the academy players filling the gaps.

    No of course your not. I don't think any fans think that our squad is ready at the level it should be yet. I'd be very very surprised if Holden and the SMT are any happier either behind the scenes.

    But saying that they have not impressed or left us short is one hell of a hot take given that 1. They have only had a few weeks to do anything, 2. The players they HAVE bought in so far are more promising than the "Best of L2" that Sandgaard treated us to and 3. Outside of maybe one or two NO teams will be fully ready yet including some far further along than we are.

    If when the window shuts we are still where we are now then I'll be grabbing my trusty pitchfork and torch. But not yet.
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,885
    Redhenry said:
    Explain why that's a lol pls?
    Because they came in after a large chunk of the window had gone

    they've Made good signings so far and also missed out on a couple. They came in behind the game and have done okay. 
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,885
    Redhenry said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Redhenry said:
    Explain why that's a lol pls?
    Because they've been in place for two weeks

    They've had input since the January transfer window
    House buying time

    a purchaser can go and measure for new curtains during the purchase but it's very risky to purchase the curtains until the contract has been signed. Unfortunately, someone may have already bought the curtains during that time
  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,359
    They have been around since Jan. Go spend some money!
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,885
    killerandflash said:
    I think we'd be in a much better place if the takeover had happened a month earlier, 
    And a much worse place if it hadn't happened
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,465
    This fella from the west indies that has been bandied about is a bit concerning.
    This thin squad is not in a position to take punts.
    Another red flag.

  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,384
    Redhenry said:
    They have been around since Jan. Go spend some money!
    Hope they do but they shouldn’t overpay for someone like Nombe just to excite the fans.
  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,359
    Fact is they haven't spent anything more than previous poor owners

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