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I am going to say it!! Yes I am, Nathan Jones......................

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  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 28,705
    If I speak…
  • RC_CAFC
    RC_CAFC Posts: 2,086
    CH4RLTON said:
    I think giving the fact we have a few tricky fixtures to start off and the fact we are clearly behind schedule fitness wise I do think it is inconceivable that we take a couple of heavy
     losses early and Jones will be right under it the off 
    If they’re idiotic enough to do that then more fool them. Without Jones we’re down. The team is moulded in his image. No other manager is going to get a better tune out of these players than him.
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,957
    Pay peanuts you get monkeys 
    the board aren’t backing NJ after the money wasted last season 

    he’s not lasting the season unless he performs a miracle 
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 9,065
    One thing that's for sure, if he does end up getting sacked this season, it won't impact his stock. Anyone that follows this league and understands the quality of the other sides knows the job he has at hand.

    I think anyone predicting us anywhere above 19th-20th is absolutely bonkers. If he can get us 21st, he will be undeniably one of the greatest managers we have ever had. Good luck to him. 
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 15,016
    Lol can't believe this thread has popped back up after a pre season friendly 
    We were two signings away from a great season after Colchester!
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 33,237
    Absolutely insane that anyone would even be thinking along these lines now. I think we’ll get relegated this season, I don’t think it will be Jones’ fault. 
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 2,657
    No way has this pre season gone as NJ was hoping, the signings don’t match what he was saying he wanted and was waiting for, has Jim let him down? 
  • Sword65pf said:
    No way has this pre season gone as NJ was hoping, the signings don’t match what he was saying he wanted and was waiting for, has Jim let him down? 
    Or he’s let himself down 
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 34,415
    So far he’s not been backed. Net spend of less than 2m in this league gets you relegated. 
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 2,657
    edited August 1
    Sword65pf said:
    No way has this pre season gone as NJ was hoping, the signings don’t match what he was saying he wanted and was waiting for, has Jim let him down? 
    Or he’s let himself down 
    With what he has been saying since coming back to preseason about quality over quantity and the positions he wants to improve, he’s pretty much saying what most of us think,I don’t see how once he’s told Rodwell and the board his wishes what more he can do, they knew this season was going to be harder, have they got the stomach to give NJ the best chance to be able to compete? The talk was quite bullish when talking about moving forward but the actions are a bit less so, time still left but the the longer it takes the harder our season will be.

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  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 30,894
    They will lose more money going down than spending to have a go at a play-off spot.
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 2,657
    They will lose more money going down than spending to have a go at a play-off spot.
    They must know this though, so what’s they’re thinking? Not really getting what they are doing at the moment, or are we over thinking things?.
  • MartinCAFC
    MartinCAFC Posts: 3,522
    Lol can't believe this thread has popped back up after a pre season friendly 
    I hadn't opened this thread since December, had been over 2,400+ new posts...seems to have a life of it's own!
  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 2,793
    Every other neutral fan and the bookies expect us to be in the bottom 3 even if Jones scraps another 21st place finish he’d still be doing his job 
  • Nug
    Nug Posts: 4,750
    It’s frustrating really, we will be scrapping at the bottom again this season and unless some other teams take some points deductions could be a lot worse than last year. We have wealthy owners who have some very big limits on what they will invest and when you see the likes of what Wrexham and Birmingham are doing it shows how far off we are. That’s not to say we are doomed, Jones can definitely get something out of his players but it won’t be pretty. I think two or three quality players could make a huge difference but it costs more than our owners are willing to invest. Not sure I see what the point of them owning us is if we go back down.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 28,705
    Hopefully not another wasted opportunity in The Championship for Charlton. 
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 24,734
    As much as I am a fan of Jones after what he has done, I think there will be a parting of the ways if we are bottom 3 after 15 games.
    If we are bottom 3 after 15 games it will be because our owners have not backed NJ with enough money to bring in the players we need.
    Sustainability = relegation if the funds are insufficient. 

  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 6,489
    As much as I am a fan of Jones after what he has done, I think there will be a parting of the ways if we are bottom 3 after 15 games.
    If we are bottom 3 after 15 games it will be because our owners have not backed NJ with enough money to bring in the players we need.
    Sustainability = relegation if the funds are insufficient. 

    Jones I assume picked the players last summer , most of whom have been pretty poor and/ or unsuited to our system.  Indeed, Bell was good, Carey was free and good until he dipped at the end of the season and the rest have been average at best.  
  • Love NJ, however think he might’ve jumped the gun on trying to revolutionise us into an expansive ball playing football team. If we go toe to toe with some of these teams in the division we’ll get blown out the water, think we should’ve doubled down on the sh*thouse 10 men behind the ball stuff that although not exciting to watch can be effective? 
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 6,489
    Love NJ, however think he might’ve jumped the gun on trying to revolutionise us into an expansive ball playing football team. If we go toe to toe with some of these teams in the division we’ll get blown out the water, think we should’ve doubled down on the sh*thouse 10 men behind the ball stuff that although not exciting to watch can be effective? 
    is that what he’s done ? We’ve hardly scored a goal in pre season.  

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  • CaptainRobbo
    CaptainRobbo Posts: 2,629
    Looks like the loan market may be important again.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 29,470
    This thread will continue to pop up occasionally without fail - just like Uncle Wanker at a family gathering. You just have to accept it.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 51,692
    Off_it said:
    This thread will continue to pop up occasionally without fail - just like Uncle Wanker at a family gathering. You just have to accept it.
    I’m guessing a few seconds after the Derby game
  • StrikerFirmani
    StrikerFirmani Posts: 2,833
    thread incoming soon if no wins in the first two
    WTF.   Its starting because your starting it. 

    No one had moaned about NJ, then others join in when still there hasn't been any NJ out comments.

    It then becomes a self fulfilling prophesy.      
  • Lol can't believe this thread has popped back up after a pre season friendly 
    We were two signings away from a great season after Colchester!

    Yep and then we lose a game and this thread appears because of the anticipation of it appearing (!?!)  and turns into an echo chamber for people saying that anyone who wants him gone is mad, when no one has said that for months. 🤣
  • CaptainRobbo
    CaptainRobbo Posts: 2,629
    Off_it said:
    This thread will continue to pop up occasionally without fail - just like Uncle Wanker at a family gathering. You just have to accept it.
    I’m guessing a few seconds into the Derby game

  • CaptainRobbo
    CaptainRobbo Posts: 2,629
    Off_it said:
    This thread will continue to pop up occasionally without fail - just like Uncle Wanker at a family gathering. You just have to accept it.
    I’m guessing a few seconds after the Derby game
    If we do suffer a drubbing by Derby.
    It may persuade someone to check down the back of the sofa for a few shekels, to pay for a new midfielder or two.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 28,705
    Love NJ, however think he might’ve jumped the gun on trying to revolutionise us into an expansive ball playing football team. If we go toe to toe with some of these teams in the division we’ll get blown out the water, think we should’ve doubled down on the sh*thouse 10 men behind the ball stuff that although not exciting to watch can be effective? 
    And he can still do that. The majority of the squad is still here that played in that system and every new signing could slot in there too. 
  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,873
    They will lose more money going down than spending to have a go at a play-off spot.
    We don't even have to have a go at a play off spot, around mid table would do very nicely for this season. What we appear to be doing is throwing the last two seasons away. It will cost our billionaire owners more in the long run to get us back into this division than buying a couple of decent championship midfielders that could see us stay up. With this squad we are only going one way, what happens after that who knows.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 51,692
    Our owners are on record as saying they’re in it for the long haul. A relegation now would put them behind the curve. Easier said than done but Let’s not condemn them until the window is closed. There’s time enough for some quality additions.