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Greg Docherty (Leaves by mutual consent, pg 33)
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Thanks Doc. A great servant to the club.7
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He fell out with him last year then they patched up as NJ needed him, similar to TK.sillav nitram said:If I'm honest, I feel uncomfortable about this, what did/has he done to be treated this way?
Yes, I know it's a cut throat business but why has he fallen so far? Obviously stuff I wont be privvy to but is it simply not fitting into NJ's game plans?
And Yes, good luck for the future Doc.
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Not unexpected and from a footballing perspective absolutely the right thing for the club to do. Still, it's always sad to see such a professional and committed player leave.4
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Always put in a shift ..a great example to the younger players..hopefully he'll be remembered as someone who took the club forward. A good pro and I wish him nothing but the very best .Thank-you0
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NJ does love to hold a grudge it seems0
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The number of players that have come and gone over more than twenty years that literally didn't give a toss - Greg Docherty was an absolute breath of fresh air and I would imagine a great fella to have around.
Yes I would criticise that he was not up to champ standard (especially playing alongside Coventry), but it was the manager who picked him - and the guy never shirked, very rare in this day and age to have a player like that - around a lot of other likeable players (also rare, and sorely missing at CAFC during that same time period). The end of last season alongside Coady he showed a backs against the wall mentality, and really dug in to help us stay up.
For those reasons alone, he should get a mightly welcome when he's back at The Valley, and wish him all the best, with a lot of thanks. Cheers Doc.13 -
I don't know if its holding a grudge as much as his total belief/commitment to his own vision. Normally its a strength and I'm sure it's part of what makes him successful but if anyone dares to argue or question it I imagine he takes it rather personally.Weegie Addick said:NJ does love to hold a grudge it seems
(For the record I am very much team NJ and want him to be our manager for as long as possible, I am just speculating on why he falls out with senior players sometimes.)4 -
Highlights the reality of the precarious nature of a career as a professional football player I suppose.It’s why players have to be ‘mercenary’ on occasion I suppose (not suggesting he was rather just highlighting the other side of the fence compared to a supporters view).Despite the circumstances a very dignified statement from him.6
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Echo what's already been said. Thanks for everything, Doc. One thing we never had to worry about with you was leadership and workrate. A brilliant servant to the club and by all accounts a lovely and very popular guy. Go well.2
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As Dean Keily observed in an interview for ‘My Only Desire’ magazine, it’s the manager’s job to replace you in the team with someone better and your job, as a player, to make that as hard as possible for him through your performances.
I’ve no idea what, if anything, went on behind the scenes between the manager and The Doc, although I suspect that Nathan is simply making a decision (granted a tough one) which is in the best interests of Charlton Athletic. That is, after all, his job.
Things change at football clubs, as they always have and always will. Even the greats, like Mark Kinsella, reach a point where it’s time and they have to move on.
Hopefully Doc’s status as a free agent will help him negotiate a good deal at another club. He still has a lot to offer as a player and a model professional.11 -
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Sad to see him go but not surprised. When NJ talked over the summer about the need for ruthless decisions I immediately thought of Doc. The Middlesbrough away game summed him up perfectly - endless energy in hunting down Boro players forcing them backwards, or winning tne ball in tackle, passes it back to Boro - repeat for 90 minutes.Deserves an assist for the goal at Wembley for whispering something or nothing to Alex Gilbert making the keeper think he would take the free kick and caught him by surprise when Macca did.Also, as someone else has pointed out, when he was a sub and Ibby Fuller was about to come on at half time he called him over to do some quick passes and to give him plenty of encouragement. Need others to step up and offer the leadership provided by him and Coady. I don’t think Lloyd Jones leads in the same way3
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As did Curbs.Weegie Addick said:NJ does love to hold a grudge it seems10 -
Greg Docherty will be fondly remembered in Charlton's history.
He was a limited footballer, but he always gave 100% and was an excellent captain and human being.
His performances were somewhat up and down, but overall his level of performance was as good when he left as when he joined.
He was a victim of his own success in part, but more so the success of Nathan Jones and Charlton.
Nathan Jones knew that he would need to be ruthless this window and once again he was proved correct.
Farewell Greg, I believe that you leave with the very best wishes of all Charlton fans.10 -
I remember coming away from Huddersfield in the promotion season when he got sent off cost us the game and after an average start really didn’t take to him
A few months later he really came into his own as player and captain and the end of last season really showed his leadership
Nothing but respect for him great captain good league one midfielder and a top bloke hope he gets a good move
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Hope he finds something quickly. Never hid, always battled but technical side just not enough to go forwards.1
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What is his grudge with Doc? There was a rumoured falling out last year but then Doc played a lot after that. Not sure this is a grudge, I think this is just a case of evolving beyond a player.Weegie Addick said:NJ does love to hold a grudge it seems11 -
ThisMuttleyCAFC said:Thanks Doc. A great servant to the club.0 -
Thanks Doc - good luck0
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Jones had made some good and ruthless decisions this summer . Kaminski, Macca, Berry and Doc , along with Dykes imo were not good enough . All bar Kaminski made good contributions for us but it was time for all to move on.
Good luck, Doc . Classy way to leave.4 -
All the best Doc -
Thanks for the memories.1 -
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Id tend to agree that to get to where we need to be we need better than Doc, however when you take in to consideration we have kept -SDAddick said:
What is his grudge with Doc? There was a rumoured falling out last year but then Doc played a lot after that. Not sure this is a grudge, I think this is just a case of evolving beyond a player.Weegie Addick said:NJ does love to hold a grudge it seems
Mwama (could be great and has looked good last couple games but still untested, personally dint have a problem with giving youth a chance)
JRC (who hardly got a look in last season and most his appearance were as a sub)
Ouma (again an unknown quantity that we seem to have to get fit before he can make the squad)
Ollie Skipp (widely derided by leicester fans and was relegated last season)
Was Doc worse than all these ?0 -
Best captain we've had since Jackson. Quality fella, shame to see him go, but can understand why.
He's a top top pro, he'll find a club no problem I'm sure, lots of clubs would like to take him (on a free).
Classy goodbye message, but is he really the first promotion captain to the stay the up the following year? Wasn't Jackson captain under Powell?5 -
Jason Pearce was as good a captain as Docherty , admittedly in a much worse team after the 2019 playoffsRob7Lee said:Best captain we've had since Jackson. Quality fella, shame to see him go, but can understand why.
He's a top top pro, he'll find a club no problem I'm sure, lots of clubs would like to take him (on a free).
Classy goodbye message, but is he really the first promotion captain to the stay the up the following year? Wasn't Jackson captain under Powell?6 -
Yeh that was an odd comment. Jacko definitely did it.Rob7Lee said:Best captain we've had since Jackson. Quality fella, shame to see him go, but can understand why.
He's a top top pro, he'll find a club no problem I'm sure, lots of clubs would like to take him (on a free).
Classy goodbye message, but is he really the first promotion captain to the stay the up the following year? Wasn't Jackson captain under Powell?0 -
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Just after his holiday in Turkey visiting the dentist.3
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Thank you for playing a huge part in getting Charlton back on their way.
You served the club with respect, dignity and played a crucial role in bringing back that real togetherness and pride into the shirt and the club
Go well Greg, and best of luck for the future. I hope you find a new suitable club soon.3 -
Always looked like playing for Charlton mattered, whatever the opposition, whatever the score.4
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Nice words from NJ in his post match presser.8
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I've always argued Doc is a better footballer than he is sometimes made out to be. I think the term "limited" is probably fair, but he's a bit more than just a hard-worker. He has a decent shot on him, can run with the ball and beat a man at times, and provided a beautiful assist to Bree away at Derby for what was, for my money, our goal of the season last season.
He's also got a level of football intelligence that goes underrated, perhaps because it's mostly of a defensive nature. He's excellent at knowing when to press and when not to, and he reads the game very well - you'd rarely see him get caught out of position for us, and often he'd be the man plugging gaps left by others if they got caught out.
There is a limit to how far those things can take him without some of the parts that are missing from his game, but it's not a fluke that he's played lots of games in the Championship and nor was he totally out of his depth at this level, like some make out.
However, his biggest contribution was probably as club captain. Starting with the new (current) owners, but in particular since NJ came in as manager, there has been a big change of culture at the club in the last 2 to 3 years. A swing towards professionalism and setting (and maintaining) standards. I think it's hard to argue that Doc set anything other than an exemplary example when it came to being a very good pro and giving it 100% every game. I have no doubt that was a big reason why NJ wanted him at the club. The way the team now commits and fights in almost every game is absolutely unrecognizable from some of the complete showers we had to witness in the darkest days in League One and is the foundation of where we are now. Doc's part in establishing that culture will be his legacy and it's a good legacy.
I wish him very well in the future and I'm sure he will get a very warm reception if/when he returns to the Valley, in whatever capacity that may be.27
