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POST-MATCH THREAD: Charlton Athletic v Coventry City: Thursday 1st January 2026: KO 15:00

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  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,593
    2121 said:
    I thought kelman was wasted next to leaburn who always seems to be on his heels and not ready / anticipating or in position for the flick ons. Could we put carey alongside kelman (or dare i say it, kanu) ? 
    January needs to be used to find Kelman a better partner. 
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,893
    Leaburn was excellent, some people are still drunk from last night if they don’t think he had a good game.

    as for Cov, surprisingly poor, didn’t think they were great at the CBS, but can’t see them winning the league even with the lead they have, think Ipswich will now, and they'll come in second 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,620
    A much better performance and deserved point. Yes we mucked up good attacking positions,  but do did Coventry.  3-3 would have reflected the game better. 

    Rankin-Costello once again made his absence from the team really baffling,  for me MOTM 2 games running. 
  • paulsturgess
    paulsturgess Posts: 4,051
    NabySarr said:
    Anyone understand why Leaburn makes no real effort ? 
    Don’t understand what people watch at times. Leaburn has started 3 games in a week, and put himself about well again today. Towards the end of the game he chased a Coventry player back to the corner and put in a slide tackle. If your strikers doing that and you say he’s putting no effort in then wtf are you expecting from him? 
    I think your brothers comment must have been sarcastic / slight on past comments of leaburns work rate. It can only have been… anyone making that comment in reality after today should be banned from ever attending football again
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,756
    NabySarr said:
    Anyone understand why Leaburn makes no real effort ? 
    Don’t understand what people watch at times. Leaburn has started 3 games in a week, and put himself about well again today. Towards the end of the game he chased a Coventry player back to the corner and put in a slide tackle. If your strikers doing that and you say he’s putting no effort in then wtf are you expecting from him? 
    I think your brothers comment must have been sarcastic / slight on past comments of leaburns work rate. It can only have been… anyone making that comment in reality after today should be banned from ever attending football again
    That makes more sense. But even so, Leaburn and TC still seem to be the target of most negative comments today other than maybe Bree who literally couldn’t kick a football. The agenda some fans have against them both is embarrassing so it wouldn’t surprise me if it was a serious comment 
  • BalladMan
    BalladMan Posts: 1,217
    NabySarr said:
    Anyone understand why Leaburn makes no real effort ? 
    Don’t understand what people watch at times. Leaburn has started 3 games in a week, and put himself about well again today. Towards the end of the game he chased a Coventry player back to the corner and put in a slide tackle. If your strikers doing that and you say he’s putting no effort in then wtf are you expecting from him? 
    Goals? 

    I all seriousness though, with each passing week he is increasingly becoming a mirror image of his old man. Vital but not prolific, selfless to allow others to take the glory.

    he has been my MOM(es) over the last 6 days.  
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 701
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    Anyone understand why Leaburn makes no real effort ? 
    Don’t understand what people watch at times. Leaburn has started 3 games in a week, and put himself about well again today. Towards the end of the game he chased a Coventry player back to the corner and put in a slide tackle. If your strikers doing that and you say he’s putting no effort in then wtf are you expecting from him? 
    I think your brothers comment must have been sarcastic / slight on past comments of leaburns work rate. It can only have been… anyone making that comment in reality after today should be banned from ever attending football again
    That makes more sense. But even so, Leaburn and TC still seem to be the target of most negative comments today other than maybe Bree who literally couldn’t kick a football. The agenda some fans have against them both is embarrassing so it wouldn’t surprise me if it was a serious comment 
    I’m sorry Naby, there’s no agenda against those two players, people have opinions and they both provoke a lot of discussion but it’s not agenda. I’m sure if they both play well they get their plaudits accordingly, and so any criticism should be accepted in equal measure. I just don’t see Charlton fans not wanting they’re own to do well.

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  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,756
    Sword65pf said:
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    Anyone understand why Leaburn makes no real effort ? 
    Don’t understand what people watch at times. Leaburn has started 3 games in a week, and put himself about well again today. Towards the end of the game he chased a Coventry player back to the corner and put in a slide tackle. If your strikers doing that and you say he’s putting no effort in then wtf are you expecting from him? 
    I think your brothers comment must have been sarcastic / slight on past comments of leaburns work rate. It can only have been… anyone making that comment in reality after today should be banned from ever attending football again
    That makes more sense. But even so, Leaburn and TC still seem to be the target of most negative comments today other than maybe Bree who literally couldn’t kick a football. The agenda some fans have against them both is embarrassing so it wouldn’t surprise me if it was a serious comment 
    I’m sorry Naby, there’s no agenda against those two players, people have opinions and they both provoke a lot of discussion but it’s not agenda. I’m sure if they both play well they get their plaudits accordingly, and so any criticism should be accepted in equal measure. I just don’t see Charlton fans not wanting their own to do well.
    It is. Yes most of the criticism is fair enough but there are definitely fans that criticise them however well they play. I saw someone tweet last week that they should both be dropped, he then commented that he hadn’t even watched the game. Both of them had good games today but are still the only players being criticised. And it’s questioning their effort as well that makes it obvious it is an agenda, as both are clearly putting a shift in at the moment 

    It’s probably more on twitter than it is on here, but it’s an obvious agenda. You can hear it at games too, they are always the first to be criticised for anything, often unfairly 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 96,791
    2121 said:
    I thought kelman was wasted next to leaburn who always seems to be on his heels and not ready / anticipating or in position for the flick ons. Could we put carey alongside kelman (or dare i say it, kanu) ? 
    January needs to be used to find Kelman a better partner. 
    Not sure his missus will be happy to read this!!
  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,394
    Well deserved point against a good team. Everyone worked hard and did their bit, even those that are struggling with form. Good effort from the fans too, keeping the faith.  
    We are going back home on Saturday, but we’ll be back for Sheffield Utd and Derby… 
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,495
    Leuth said:
    I did find myself worrying that Kaminski was going to spill chances to Coventry with his one handed ‘saves’. That aside we were decent and deserved the point. 

    Follow up with a win next and it will seem a lot better. 
    They weren't 'saves', they were saves ffs. I'm a harsh judge of keepers but he's had an absolute blinder today, about 3 where it was massively in favour of being a goal 
    Sky Sports syndrome. Over-analysis of everything. Every shot shouldn’t just have been saved, it should have been pushed to the exact spot where there aren’t any opposition players despite it being drilled at the keeper at a million miles an hour. Every high ball should be caught not punched no matter how risky dropping it might be. Some of our assists and goals are ‘lucky’ because they bobble a bit and aren’t perfect top corner strikes. It’s exhausting, I can’t imagine how fucking miserable people would have been about our Premier League days if the Twitter generation had been around then 
  • CL_Phantom
    CL_Phantom Posts: 5,766
    Excellent point given the run of form and Cov being the league leaders, went with a turgid 0-0 in the pre-match, performance wasn't that bad, we were the better team for parts, with a bit more quality we could be comfortable mid table, we rely on that one tiny bit of magic from about 3 players and that's what's holding us back ultimately, the lack of final ball on even a semi consistent basis.

    Kelman looks a totally different forward since his return, was a fan of his work rate anyway but now he's really starting to look the part, link and scorer.

    JRC - excellent again and really deserved that goal.

    Confident going into Blackburn we can walk away with 3 points. 


  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,448
    Great second half display. You could probably see that both sides didn't have enough in the tank to get the win, a crazy Christmas schedule puts a strain on the best sides. Kaminski kept us in it and Leaburn' and Bell went the extra mile today, they covered every blade of grass. For a man not fully fit, Rankin Costello was a class above, two more, wherever they play, with that level of class and this team will climb the league. 
  • A strange approach by Coventry who did not try and capitalise on their early goal. After a couple of minutes and being 0-1 down I feared another game like the one against Saints but this was much different. Charlton deserved the point and a good performance 
  • SporadicAddick
    SporadicAddick Posts: 7,051
    To the players 👏👏👏👏👏

    to Miles, MoM for me
    I clearly need to reevaluate my understanding of the role of a striker, or of an effective player.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 45,000
    Get in

    ....... dont know what will occur on Sunday they’ll all be effing knackered after that 
    Play our reserves, of course  :)
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 701
    NabySarr said:
    Sword65pf said:
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    Anyone understand why Leaburn makes no real effort ? 
    Don’t understand what people watch at times. Leaburn has started 3 games in a week, and put himself about well again today. Towards the end of the game he chased a Coventry player back to the corner and put in a slide tackle. If your strikers doing that and you say he’s putting no effort in then wtf are you expecting from him? 
    I think your brothers comment must have been sarcastic / slight on past comments of leaburns work rate. It can only have been… anyone making that comment in reality after today should be banned from ever attending football again
    That makes more sense. But even so, Leaburn and TC still seem to be the target of most negative comments today other than maybe Bree who literally couldn’t kick a football. The agenda some fans have against them both is embarrassing so it wouldn’t surprise me if it was a serious comment 
    I’m sorry Naby, there’s no agenda against those two players, people have opinions and they both provoke a lot of discussion but it’s not agenda. I’m sure if they both play well they get their plaudits accordingly, and so any criticism should be accepted in equal measure. I just don’t see Charlton fans not wanting their own to do well.
    It is. Yes most of the criticism is fair enough but there are definitely fans that criticise them however well they play. I saw someone tweet last week that they should both be dropped, he then commented that he hadn’t even watched the game. Both of them had good games today but are still the only players being criticised. And it’s questioning their effort as well that makes it obvious it is an agenda, as both are clearly putting a shift in at the moment 

    It’s probably more on twitter than it is on here, but it’s an obvious agenda. You can hear it at games too, they are always the first to be criticised for anything, often unfairly 
    I think the fact you are giving any credit to comments on twitter says it all really. 

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  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 27,156
    Whilst overall it would have been better to get point at Pompey and lose this one, think it was important to keep the Valley as a real strength of ours. 
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,495
    mayoboy said:
    I thought Kelman reminded me of Derek Hales for that goal.

    He had no right to win that ball, he went shoulder to shoulder with their defender and won that battle and then sprinting onto goal he had only one thing on his mind which was to hit the shot and make the goalkeeper produce a good save.

    That is precisely what I want my strikers to do, sprint towards the goal, shoot and not make a backwards pass which gives their defenders a chance to get back.

    Well done Kelman and especially for Costello for busting a gut to get in the box.
    I agree with almost all of that except when you see the goal back Kelman does look across a couple of times to see who is with him. Which is great, I love a striker going for the goal but I also love a player making sure and squaring for a guaranteed tap in over getting the glory. JRC was too far behind so Kelman took the shot, which was the right choice in the moment 
  • kinveachyaddick
    kinveachyaddick Posts: 3,987
    Berry was the clear weak link for me. Gave possession up far too easily leading to their goal and offered nothing in attack. 

    If Carey has started instead of him I think we could have earned all three points today. 
  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,448
    To the players 👏👏👏👏👏

    to Miles, MoM for me
    I clearly need to reevaluate my understanding of the role of a striker, or of an effective player.
    It might be worth looking at his stats, I think he won everything in the air and the amount of covering he got through was phenomenal. I think the point about him being effective as a striker may carry some weight but once again, the role he is now playing is new to him and he is still a young player learning the game.  
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,960
    Berry was the clear weak link for me. Gave possession up far too easily leading to their goal and offered nothing in attack. 

    If Carey has started instead of him I think we could have earned all three points today. 
    Hopefully Carey takes Berry’s place on Sunday.
  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,135
    Good point and performance. Rankin Costello had a great game 
  • BalladMan
    BalladMan Posts: 1,217
    Today’s result only compounds my opinion that if we had played equal home and away at this stage in the season, we would be mid table.  

    Obv we can’t do anything about the Portsmouth home game postponement, but to have played 2 more away, plus this postponement, just seems odd scheduling. Hopefully works in our favour for 2nd half season. 

    Bring on the Chelsea reserves.  
  • bromleyjohn
    bromleyjohn Posts: 6,006
    That was Miles Leaburns best game and I am hoping he will continue playing like that. He is winning nearly all of his headers and not falling over so much. Thought Kelman for the goal was excellent. We need another striker that is for certain. If we could only tick that box, there would be less uncertainty about the future
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 34,569
    NabySarr said:
    And please can we send Bree back. I have no idea what has gone wrong but surely we have someone else. 
    Apter.

    Younger
    Fitter
    Better crosser of the ball
    More likely to score.
    Playing Apter and TC at wing back is suicidal. Just look at the Southampton game where we tried 2 wingers as wing backs. Bree plays because there is no one else, when he’s fit he’s a good player but it’s obvious he is not fit 
    Never said play TC at wing back.

    I'd go with.......

    Apter, Burke, Jones, Gillesphey, Bell.

    Its Brew that needs replacing. And the line up above also frees up TC.
  • SporadicAddick
    SporadicAddick Posts: 7,051
    edited January 1
    Bailey said:
    To the players 👏👏👏👏👏

    to Miles, MoM for me
    I clearly need to reevaluate my understanding of the role of a striker, or of an effective player.
    It might be worth looking at his stats, I think he won everything in the air and the amount of covering he got through was phenomenal. I think the point about him being effective as a striker may carry some weight but once again, the role he is now playing is new to him and he is still a young player learning the game.  
    I think that’s fair, and I perhaps should have added that this wasn’t a criticism of him, and certainly not of his effort. He’s simply not effective at this level. The stats for winning headers is one side of the coin - the stat for goals and assists is another.

    I was a defender of his dad in the 80s - a young lad that often couldn’t buy a goal but who was excellent at bringing others into play and creating space. At this level, at the moment, and maybe in this system, Miles can’t or doesn’t do either.

    One post above praised him for tracking back and doing a slide tackle as an example of his excellent performance. That’s just doing the basics…