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POST-MATCH THREAD: Charlton Athletic v Coventry City: Thursday 1st January 2026: KO 15:00
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🤢ArmchairAddick said:
I did, it got very raw after day 2.The Red Robin said:
Don’t knock it til you’ve tried it.CAFCTrev said:Portsmouth spent the last few days wanking themselves off after their dramatic win against us only to get tonked 5 nil today.1 -
Thankfully this team doesn’t throw in the towel as easily as some of our fans. A good batting point earned today, as should have been the case at Pompey too.
Lots of games to play and lots of time for twists and turns. We’ve undeniably dropped some crucial points in the last week or so, and there’s no doubt that areas of our play need to be improved. However, to come through the Christmas period and be outside the relegation zone has to be been seen as an overall success, given where we were just a year ago.
Whatever comes next, this team will fight for every point, which is all we can, truly, demand. Let’s hope that we can add a bit of quality in the transfer window and one or two players who have threatened to ignite, at times, catch fire soon and that is enough to see us safe.
I’m still pretty confident we’ll be ok.23 -
In games I've seen recently we do look much better when our players have a bit of confidence to try and do something with it. With our confidence chipped away after a bad run we treat the ball like a bit of a hot potato at times, passing it on so quickly and often with little aim.
Today with Bell and JRC leading with trying to play confidently it spread a bit around the team and we looked good. It's doesn't take many of our players to do that for us to look a much better team as we do have a great team spirit.
Easily deserved a point today and it wasn't complete panic stations at the end either. Which against runaway league leaders was great for us, even if Coventry weren't at their best.4 -
Once the ought'ves, should'ves and could'ves have been removed we are still left with what was a cracking game of football. I really enjoyed it!10
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Rankin-Costello is the greatest footballer of all time. Oh, and I ended up looking like a twat, @ForeverAddickted.2
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NabySarr said:
Playing Apter and TC at wing back is suicidal. Just look at the Southampton game where we tried 2 wingers as wing backs. Bree plays because there is no one else, when he’s fit he’s a good player but it’s obvious he is not fitgolfaddick said:
Apter.Doomer Jon said:And please can we send Bree back. I have no idea what has gone wrong but surely we have someone else.
Younger
Fitter
Better crosser of the ball
More likely to score.Blackburn should be the last league game Ramsay misses. I would play him at RWB, with Burke, Jones and Bell central.
Then we can get away with Apter as the other wing back5 -
Well, if you remember his Dad in the 80s, you surely also remember him in the 90s, when he scored a lot of goals. Thats because we were set up to provide him with the opportunities - Robert Lee was at his best, but we had to flog him, then Johnnie Robbo was brought in to replace him. This team doesnt provide chances like those guys did. Miles first league goal for us reminded me so much of his Dad’s towering headed goals. But I also recall Miles converting clinically from a perfect Dan Kanu cross. He has had nothing like those chances set up for him this season, and he won’t until NJ works out how he can play TC and Apter in their own best roles.SporadicAddick said:
I think that’s fair, and I perhaps should have added that this wasn’t a criticism of him, and certainly not of his effort. He’s simply not effective at this level. The stats for winning headers is one side of the coin - the stat for goals and assists is another.Bailey said:
It might be worth looking at his stats, I think he won everything in the air and the amount of covering he got through was phenomenal. I think the point about him being effective as a striker may carry some weight but once again, the role he is now playing is new to him and he is still a young player learning the game.SporadicAddick said:
I clearly need to reevaluate my understanding of the role of a striker, or of an effective player.letthegoodtimesroll said:To the players 👏👏👏👏👏
to Miles, MoM for me
I was a defender of his dad in the 80s - a young lad that often couldn’t buy a goal but who was excellent at bringing others into play and creating space. At this level, at the moment, and maybe in this system, Miles can’t or doesn’t do either.
One post above praised him for tracking back and doing a slide tackle as an example of his excellent performance. That’s just doing the basics…9 -
Apparently their captain injured himself celebrating their goal and missed the game today, shame😆CAFCTrev said:Portsmouth spent the last few days wanking themselves off after their dramatic win against us only to get tonked 5 nil today.16 -
Yes I remember him in the 90s, but I was referring to his contribution in the 80s…PragueAddick said:
Well, if you remember his Dad in the 80s, you surely also remember him in the 90s, when he scored a lot of goals. Thats because we were set up to provide him with the opportunities - Robert Lee was at his best, but we had to flog him, then Johnnie Robbo was brought in to replace him. This team doesnt provide chances like those guys did. Miles first league goal for us reminded me so much of his Dad’s towering headed goals. But I also recall Miles converting clinically from a perfect Dan Kanu cross. He has had nothing like those chances set up for him this season, and he won’t until NJ works out how he can play TC and Apter in their own best roles.SporadicAddick said:
I think that’s fair, and I perhaps should have added that this wasn’t a criticism of him, and certainly not of his effort. He’s simply not effective at this level. The stats for winning headers is one side of the coin - the stat for goals and assists is another.Bailey said:
It might be worth looking at his stats, I think he won everything in the air and the amount of covering he got through was phenomenal. I think the point about him being effective as a striker may carry some weight but once again, the role he is now playing is new to him and he is still a young player learning the game.SporadicAddick said:
I clearly need to reevaluate my understanding of the role of a striker, or of an effective player.letthegoodtimesroll said:To the players 👏👏👏👏👏
to Miles, MoM for me
I was a defender of his dad in the 80s - a young lad that often couldn’t buy a goal but who was excellent at bringing others into play and creating space. At this level, at the moment, and maybe in this system, Miles can’t or doesn’t do either.
One post above praised him for tracking back and doing a slide tackle as an example of his excellent performance. That’s just doing the basics…
edit: I’d also question whether, as a striker, he scored “lots” of goals, and I was a fan of his…4 -
JRC was great today but there wasn't any signs from his sub appearances that a performance like that was likely.shirty5 said:Why Joe Rankin-Costello was not given a start until halfway through this season is a mystery to me. The bloke is a midfielder. He runs, he tackles, he beats people, he plays with his head up.Sometimes I despair Jones when you watch that performance from JRC and he has been sat on the bench all season. He must be shit in training.A good performance from all concerned this afternoon. No one had a bad game and a performance that is required between now and the end of the season.
Special mention for the back 3. Bar the goal were solid. Doubtful all 3 will stay fit but keep em crossed
We were going well for the first quarter of the season, Cov, Doc and Carey were all playing well. Dropping any of them for JRC at the time would've been mad!
It's taken a little while since a bad run to get him in the team but it's not an obvious error in Jones management that JRC hasn't played much up until now.
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Having played at a decent standard for about 20 years, and having spent the last 5 or so years of those 20 coming off the bench as I got older, I promise you getting up to speed and really affecting a game as a sub is really tough, especially if you’re chasing a game or backs are against the wall.arthur said:
JRC was great today but there wasn't any signs from his sub appearances that a performance like that was likely.shirty5 said:Why Joe Rankin-Costello was not given a start until halfway through this season is a mystery to me. The bloke is a midfielder. He runs, he tackles, he beats people, he plays with his head up.Sometimes I despair Jones when you watch that performance from JRC and he has been sat on the bench all season. He must be shit in training.A good performance from all concerned this afternoon. No one had a bad game and a performance that is required between now and the end of the season.
Special mention for the back 3. Bar the goal were solid. Doubtful all 3 will stay fit but keep em crossed
We were going well for the first quarter of the season, Cov, Doc and Carey were all playing well. Dropping any of them for JRC at the time would've been mad!
It's taken a little while since a bad run to get him in the team but it's not an obvious error in Jones management that JRC hasn't played much up until now.
it could well be that JRC needed a decent run in the side to get fully up to speed and dust off the cob webs from being on the bench for so long, or equally needed the confidence of being picked to start.Time will tell, but as a central midfielder it’s really hard to come on and change the game really quickly.5 -
At this level as a striker you get one chance like that a game. He should have done better - at least make the keeper work harder. That was a golden chance wasted.golfaddick said:
If you mean his shot in the first half then that is not a miss. He overpowered the defender & managed to get a shot away whilst still being harried by the defender. Shot from 20 ysrfscwhich the keeper had to save......not an easy save as the shot was not a powder puff one straight at him.PrincessFiona said:
I thought Leaburn looked knackered - he puts in a shift. Shame about the main miss2121 said:Great point!
costello was great.Kaminski good saves (although always parries it back into the danger area)
kelman also great.Surprised leaburn didnt come off as was holding his hamstring early into second half and, i thought, was generally ineffective.0 -
I thought we were playing a slightly different system, at times 4-3-3 so a little more fluid, perhaps that's allowed JRC to be preferred.TheHerminator said:
Having played at a decent standard for about 20 years, and having spent the last 5 or so years of those 20 coming off the bench as I got older, I promise you getting up to speed and really affecting a game as a sub is really tough, especially if you’re chasing a game or backs are against the wall.arthur said:
JRC was great today but there wasn't any signs from his sub appearances that a performance like that was likely.shirty5 said:Why Joe Rankin-Costello was not given a start until halfway through this season is a mystery to me. The bloke is a midfielder. He runs, he tackles, he beats people, he plays with his head up.Sometimes I despair Jones when you watch that performance from JRC and he has been sat on the bench all season. He must be shit in training.A good performance from all concerned this afternoon. No one had a bad game and a performance that is required between now and the end of the season.
Special mention for the back 3. Bar the goal were solid. Doubtful all 3 will stay fit but keep em crossed
We were going well for the first quarter of the season, Cov, Doc and Carey were all playing well. Dropping any of them for JRC at the time would've been mad!
It's taken a little while since a bad run to get him in the team but it's not an obvious error in Jones management that JRC hasn't played much up until now.
it could well be that JRC needed a decent run in the side to get fully up to speed and dust off the cob webs from being on the bench for so long, or equally needed the confidence of being picked to start.Time will tell, but as a central midfielder it’s really hard to come on and change the game really quickly.1 -
Yes absolutely and there could be many reasons he might not be starting games up until now. I'm happy he is making an impact but I think no one would have seen that performance coming a week ago! Fans bemoaning Jones for not having him starting games earlier is a bit harsh.TheHerminator said:
Having played at a decent standard for about 20 years, and having spent the last 5 or so years of those 20 coming off the bench as I got older, I promise you getting up to speed and really affecting a game as a sub is really tough, especially if you’re chasing a game or backs are against the wall.arthur said:
JRC was great today but there wasn't any signs from his sub appearances that a performance like that was likely.shirty5 said:Why Joe Rankin-Costello was not given a start until halfway through this season is a mystery to me. The bloke is a midfielder. He runs, he tackles, he beats people, he plays with his head up.Sometimes I despair Jones when you watch that performance from JRC and he has been sat on the bench all season. He must be shit in training.A good performance from all concerned this afternoon. No one had a bad game and a performance that is required between now and the end of the season.
Special mention for the back 3. Bar the goal were solid. Doubtful all 3 will stay fit but keep em crossed
We were going well for the first quarter of the season, Cov, Doc and Carey were all playing well. Dropping any of them for JRC at the time would've been mad!
It's taken a little while since a bad run to get him in the team but it's not an obvious error in Jones management that JRC hasn't played much up until now.
it could well be that JRC needed a decent run in the side to get fully up to speed and dust off the cob webs from being on the bench for so long, or equally needed the confidence of being picked to start.Time will tell, but as a central midfielder it’s really hard to come on and change the game really quickly.
I think Jones knows what JRC offers but was that what we needed a few games ago? He went with Anderson coming in and that worked quite well when we just really needed as much grit and effort as we could get. JRC looks to have the composure to make more happen now the rest of the team is working a bit better together and looking a bit more solid.1 -
Agree. Hindsight is a wonderful thing and Charlton fans love to say they’ve seen something in him that jones hasn’t! But to your point it could be any number of things to this point that has meant JRC wasnt right.arthur said:
Yes absolutely and there could be many reasons he might not be starting games up until now. I'm happy he is making an impact but I think no one would have seen that performance coming a week ago! Fans bemoaning Jones for not having him starting games earlier is a bit harsh.TheHerminator said:
Having played at a decent standard for about 20 years, and having spent the last 5 or so years of those 20 coming off the bench as I got older, I promise you getting up to speed and really affecting a game as a sub is really tough, especially if you’re chasing a game or backs are against the wall.arthur said:
JRC was great today but there wasn't any signs from his sub appearances that a performance like that was likely.shirty5 said:Why Joe Rankin-Costello was not given a start until halfway through this season is a mystery to me. The bloke is a midfielder. He runs, he tackles, he beats people, he plays with his head up.Sometimes I despair Jones when you watch that performance from JRC and he has been sat on the bench all season. He must be shit in training.A good performance from all concerned this afternoon. No one had a bad game and a performance that is required between now and the end of the season.
Special mention for the back 3. Bar the goal were solid. Doubtful all 3 will stay fit but keep em crossed
We were going well for the first quarter of the season, Cov, Doc and Carey were all playing well. Dropping any of them for JRC at the time would've been mad!
It's taken a little while since a bad run to get him in the team but it's not an obvious error in Jones management that JRC hasn't played much up until now.
it could well be that JRC needed a decent run in the side to get fully up to speed and dust off the cob webs from being on the bench for so long, or equally needed the confidence of being picked to start.Time will tell, but as a central midfielder it’s really hard to come on and change the game really quickly.
I think Jones knows what JRC offers but was that what we needed a few games ago? He went with Anderson coming in and that worked quite well when we just really needed as much grit and effort as we could get. JRC looks to have the composure to make more happen now the rest of the team is working a bit better together and looking a bit more solid.Jones wasn’t deliberately leaving him on the bench so we’d do worse.I’d argue a large proportion of those saying he should have played more this season are also the ones who said he was shit when he came on as sub6 -
But in our team, that is a chance you get every 6 games!CharltonManor1966 said:
At this level as a striker you get one chance like that a game. He should have done better - at least make the keeper work harder. That was a golden chance wasted.golfaddick said:
If you mean his shot in the first half then that is not a miss. He overpowered the defender & managed to get a shot away whilst still being harried by the defender. Shot from 20 ysrfscwhich the keeper had to save......not an easy save as the shot was not a powder puff one straight at him.PrincessFiona said:
I thought Leaburn looked knackered - he puts in a shift. Shame about the main miss2121 said:Great point!
costello was great.Kaminski good saves (although always parries it back into the danger area)
kelman also great.Surprised leaburn didnt come off as was holding his hamstring early into second half and, i thought, was generally ineffective.
I thought Leaburn did well to create the opportunity and the keeper made a good save.7 -
Said after the performance at Pompey that’s there positives and I fancied us today .. well again today performance was good and we were the better team and looked like the team at the top of the league .. People calling for changes again just ridiculous, keep changing does not work and it proved today with an unchanged team …..Once again a mistake cost us Campbell sleeping completely lost his player who had a free run to our area .. and goal .. but we showed great character and took control of the game . But like Pompey you need the ref to get simple descions correct and another stone wall pen missed with a clear hand ball .. we deserved the goal and actually we deserved to win , if this is the top side in championship we are not far away on today’s display .. Positives Burke was excellent , Costello , Kelman but MOM was Kaminski who pulled of a number of saves including incredible double save to stop them going 2 up which would have been game over but he won us that point .. disappointing again Campbell not only for their goal but he had numerous opportunities to create and failed and Bree althrough his defensive work was good his final ball and passing was way of the mark …
Onto Blackburn not a ground we get anything at but that has to change a win would be superb but we must not lose to them … today we saw a team far to good to go down and one not good enough for the premiership7 -
It’s simple really, the role of a striker is to be the vanguard of your team’s attacking play when your side has the ball and to occupy the attacking defence and stop them pressing forward to fill the gap that opens up when their midfield press forward when their side has the ball. Any goals you score or create in the meantime is a bonusSporadicAddick said:
I clearly need to reevaluate my understanding of the role of a striker, or of an effective player.letthegoodtimesroll said:To the players 👏👏👏👏👏
to Miles, MoM for me2 -
Bell is so, so important to how we play. His recovery pace and calm on the ball make such a difference to our defence. He’s got funny hamstrings though and I think Jones has now learned that you can’t be playing him at LWB for any extended period especially following an injury spell. There’s too many instances of high speed sprints and opportunities to aggravate a weakness. It’s something Chelsea have done with Reece James, they play him a bit at right back but also in midfield regularly to reduce his sprint load and he was fit all of 2025. I think Jones recognises that until we get a new LWB in this window Bell must be kept fit and that means playing someone out of position there until then and Bell always at LCB to ensure one of our most important players stays available.golfaddick said:
Never said play TC at wing back.NabySarr said:
Playing Apter and TC at wing back is suicidal. Just look at the Southampton game where we tried 2 wingers as wing backs. Bree plays because there is no one else, when he’s fit he’s a good player but it’s obvious he is not fitgolfaddick said:
Apter.Doomer Jon said:And please can we send Bree back. I have no idea what has gone wrong but surely we have someone else.
Younger
Fitter
Better crosser of the ball
More likely to score.
I'd go with.......
Apter, Burke, Jones, Gillesphey, Bell.
It’s Brew that needs replacing. And the line up above also frees up TC.I’d like him to play Apter at LWB in the meantime, let him show he’s got the drive and commitment to improve with Bell there to help him out as he learns for a few games until a proper Edwards type LWB comes in and gives Apter the chance to play on the right again6 -
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This squad would really suit a 4-3-3. Give me that over the 3-5-2 we try to shoehorn players into.Bailey said:
I thought we were playing a slightly different system, at times 4-3-3 so a little more fluid, perhaps that's allowed JRC to be preferred.TheHerminator said:
Having played at a decent standard for about 20 years, and having spent the last 5 or so years of those 20 coming off the bench as I got older, I promise you getting up to speed and really affecting a game as a sub is really tough, especially if you’re chasing a game or backs are against the wall.arthur said:
JRC was great today but there wasn't any signs from his sub appearances that a performance like that was likely.shirty5 said:Why Joe Rankin-Costello was not given a start until halfway through this season is a mystery to me. The bloke is a midfielder. He runs, he tackles, he beats people, he plays with his head up.Sometimes I despair Jones when you watch that performance from JRC and he has been sat on the bench all season. He must be shit in training.A good performance from all concerned this afternoon. No one had a bad game and a performance that is required between now and the end of the season.
Special mention for the back 3. Bar the goal were solid. Doubtful all 3 will stay fit but keep em crossed
We were going well for the first quarter of the season, Cov, Doc and Carey were all playing well. Dropping any of them for JRC at the time would've been mad!
It's taken a little while since a bad run to get him in the team but it's not an obvious error in Jones management that JRC hasn't played much up until now.
it could well be that JRC needed a decent run in the side to get fully up to speed and dust off the cob webs from being on the bench for so long, or equally needed the confidence of being picked to start.Time will tell, but as a central midfielder it’s really hard to come on and change the game really quickly.1 -
All the more reason he should have made more if it? That us why we are so lacking up front. No goal threat and can't put em away when we do get the chances. He hit it straight at the keeper. More composure needed in front of goal. The word 'striker' speaks for itself.arthur said:
But in our team, that is a chance you get every 6 games!CharltonManor1966 said:
At this level as a striker you get one chance like that a game. He should have done better - at least make the keeper work harder. That was a golden chance wasted.golfaddick said:
If you mean his shot in the first half then that is not a miss. He overpowered the defender & managed to get a shot away whilst still being harried by the defender. Shot from 20 ysrfscwhich the keeper had to save......not an easy save as the shot was not a powder puff one straight at him.PrincessFiona said:
I thought Leaburn looked knackered - he puts in a shift. Shame about the main miss2121 said:Great point!
costello was great.Kaminski good saves (although always parries it back into the danger area)
kelman also great.Surprised leaburn didnt come off as was holding his hamstring early into second half and, i thought, was generally ineffective.
I thought Leaburn did well to create the opportunity and the keeper made a good save.0 -
One of them. Think I’d have Jones, Edwards and Ramsay ahead of him there. I’d just like to see them all back in the team together!Leuth said:Oh Bell is absolutely our most important player (marginally ahead of Coventry obv ) His fitness probably decides our fate 2 -
Ever since December last year we’ve been a 433 in possession, 352 out. The shoehorning has happened when we’ve had injuries and not had proper cover in the right areas. Small/Apter playing as a winger when we’re on the ball, Ramsay pushing out to the RB spot, Edwards playing more conservatively as a LWB and TC pulling wide of the striker. The big problem is we don’t have proper cover for Edwards or TC so a couple of injuries and we go flat.The Red Robin said:
This squad would really suit a 4-3-3. Give me that over the 3-5-2 we try to shoehorn players into.Bailey said:
I thought we were playing a slightly different system, at times 4-3-3 so a little more fluid, perhaps that's allowed JRC to be preferred.TheHerminator said:
Having played at a decent standard for about 20 years, and having spent the last 5 or so years of those 20 coming off the bench as I got older, I promise you getting up to speed and really affecting a game as a sub is really tough, especially if you’re chasing a game or backs are against the wall.arthur said:
JRC was great today but there wasn't any signs from his sub appearances that a performance like that was likely.shirty5 said:Why Joe Rankin-Costello was not given a start until halfway through this season is a mystery to me. The bloke is a midfielder. He runs, he tackles, he beats people, he plays with his head up.Sometimes I despair Jones when you watch that performance from JRC and he has been sat on the bench all season. He must be shit in training.A good performance from all concerned this afternoon. No one had a bad game and a performance that is required between now and the end of the season.
Special mention for the back 3. Bar the goal were solid. Doubtful all 3 will stay fit but keep em crossed
We were going well for the first quarter of the season, Cov, Doc and Carey were all playing well. Dropping any of them for JRC at the time would've been mad!
It's taken a little while since a bad run to get him in the team but it's not an obvious error in Jones management that JRC hasn't played much up until now.
it could well be that JRC needed a decent run in the side to get fully up to speed and dust off the cob webs from being on the bench for so long, or equally needed the confidence of being picked to start.Time will tell, but as a central midfielder it’s really hard to come on and change the game really quickly.1 -
Well, having reached for the Cameron tome to refresh my memory, in the 93/94 season he scored 16 in 52 games, and was POTY, but he also got 14 in 42 in 91/92, when Curbs and Gritty took over from Sir Lennie.SporadicAddick said:
Yes I remember him in the 90s, but I was referring to his contribution in the 80s…PragueAddick said:
Well, if you remember his Dad in the 80s, you surely also remember him in the 90s, when he scored a lot of goals. Thats because we were set up to provide him with the opportunities - Robert Lee was at his best, but we had to flog him, then Johnnie Robbo was brought in to replace him. This team doesnt provide chances like those guys did. Miles first league goal for us reminded me so much of his Dad’s towering headed goals. But I also recall Miles converting clinically from a perfect Dan Kanu cross. He has had nothing like those chances set up for him this season, and he won’t until NJ works out how he can play TC and Apter in their own best roles.SporadicAddick said:
I think that’s fair, and I perhaps should have added that this wasn’t a criticism of him, and certainly not of his effort. He’s simply not effective at this level. The stats for winning headers is one side of the coin - the stat for goals and assists is another.Bailey said:
It might be worth looking at his stats, I think he won everything in the air and the amount of covering he got through was phenomenal. I think the point about him being effective as a striker may carry some weight but once again, the role he is now playing is new to him and he is still a young player learning the game.SporadicAddick said:
I clearly need to reevaluate my understanding of the role of a striker, or of an effective player.letthegoodtimesroll said:To the players 👏👏👏👏👏
to Miles, MoM for me
I was a defender of his dad in the 80s - a young lad that often couldn’t buy a goal but who was excellent at bringing others into play and creating space. At this level, at the moment, and maybe in this system, Miles can’t or doesn’t do either.
One post above praised him for tracking back and doing a slide tackle as an example of his excellent performance. That’s just doing the basics…
edit: I’d also question whether, as a striker, he scored “lots” of goals, and I was a fan of his…
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As much as you could a starting XI, if TC was to get injured don’t fancy anyone else off the left, same with Apter off the right, same with Bell at LB, same with Burke/Jones at CB and our style doesn’t suit Kelman/Leaburn to play up top on their own. 1 injury away besides the midfield for a 433 to become a less viable optionThe Red Robin said:
This squad would really suit a 4-3-3. Give me that over the 3-5-2 we try to shoehorn players into.Bailey said:
I thought we were playing a slightly different system, at times 4-3-3 so a little more fluid, perhaps that's allowed JRC to be preferred.TheHerminator said:
Having played at a decent standard for about 20 years, and having spent the last 5 or so years of those 20 coming off the bench as I got older, I promise you getting up to speed and really affecting a game as a sub is really tough, especially if you’re chasing a game or backs are against the wall.arthur said:
JRC was great today but there wasn't any signs from his sub appearances that a performance like that was likely.shirty5 said:Why Joe Rankin-Costello was not given a start until halfway through this season is a mystery to me. The bloke is a midfielder. He runs, he tackles, he beats people, he plays with his head up.Sometimes I despair Jones when you watch that performance from JRC and he has been sat on the bench all season. He must be shit in training.A good performance from all concerned this afternoon. No one had a bad game and a performance that is required between now and the end of the season.
Special mention for the back 3. Bar the goal were solid. Doubtful all 3 will stay fit but keep em crossed
We were going well for the first quarter of the season, Cov, Doc and Carey were all playing well. Dropping any of them for JRC at the time would've been mad!
It's taken a little while since a bad run to get him in the team but it's not an obvious error in Jones management that JRC hasn't played much up until now.
it could well be that JRC needed a decent run in the side to get fully up to speed and dust off the cob webs from being on the bench for so long, or equally needed the confidence of being picked to start.Time will tell, but as a central midfielder it’s really hard to come on and change the game really quickly.0 -
In League 1 we might, but not in the Champ. Wingbacks have to be able to defend and Apter defends like a winger, pot luck if it comes off. Not what we can afford to do against most Champ teams.DamoNorthStand said:NabySarr said:
Playing Apter and TC at wing back is suicidal. Just look at the Southampton game where we tried 2 wingers as wing backs. Bree plays because there is no one else, when he’s fit he’s a good player but it’s obvious he is not fitgolfaddick said:
Apter.Doomer Jon said:And please can we send Bree back. I have no idea what has gone wrong but surely we have someone else.
Younger
Fitter
Better crosser of the ball
More likely to score.Blackburn should be the last league game Ramsay misses. I would play him at RWB, with Burke, Jones and Bell central.
Then we can get away with Apter as the other wing back
TC is a better defender than Apter, and he is not good enough either. We need a LWB that can defend as well as attack, or else change formation for good.1 -
I’ve reached for the same.PragueAddick said:
Well, having reached for the Cameron tome to refresh my memory, in the 93/94 season he scored 16 in 52 games, and was POTY, but he also got 14 in 42 in 91/92, when Curbs and Gritty took over from Sir Lennie.SporadicAddick said:
Yes I remember him in the 90s, but I was referring to his contribution in the 80s…PragueAddick said:
Well, if you remember his Dad in the 80s, you surely also remember him in the 90s, when he scored a lot of goals. Thats because we were set up to provide him with the opportunities - Robert Lee was at his best, but we had to flog him, then Johnnie Robbo was brought in to replace him. This team doesnt provide chances like those guys did. Miles first league goal for us reminded me so much of his Dad’s towering headed goals. But I also recall Miles converting clinically from a perfect Dan Kanu cross. He has had nothing like those chances set up for him this season, and he won’t until NJ works out how he can play TC and Apter in their own best roles.SporadicAddick said:
I think that’s fair, and I perhaps should have added that this wasn’t a criticism of him, and certainly not of his effort. He’s simply not effective at this level. The stats for winning headers is one side of the coin - the stat for goals and assists is another.Bailey said:
It might be worth looking at his stats, I think he won everything in the air and the amount of covering he got through was phenomenal. I think the point about him being effective as a striker may carry some weight but once again, the role he is now playing is new to him and he is still a young player learning the game.SporadicAddick said:
I clearly need to reevaluate my understanding of the role of a striker, or of an effective player.letthegoodtimesroll said:To the players 👏👏👏👏👏
to Miles, MoM for me
I was a defender of his dad in the 80s - a young lad that often couldn’t buy a goal but who was excellent at bringing others into play and creating space. At this level, at the moment, and maybe in this system, Miles can’t or doesn’t do either.
One post above praised him for tracking back and doing a slide tackle as an example of his excellent performance. That’s just doing the basics…
edit: I’d also question whether, as a striker, he scored “lots” of goals, and I was a fan of his…
let's stick with the other seasons in the 90s
89/90 no goals in 17 games (7 as sub)
90/91 1 goal in 22 (10 as sub)
92/93 6 goals in 45 (12 as sub)
94/95 3 goals in 28 (5 as sub)
95/96 10 goals in 49 (2 as sub)
96/97 9 goals in 50 (4 as sub)
97/98 4 in 15 (1 as sub)
What about the 80s?
86/87 1 in 4 (3 as sub)
87/88 no goals in 13 (2 as sub)
88/89 2 in 35 (4 as sub)
let’s not forget Wimbledon - 4 in 58
or Northampton 0 in 9
or Grays (GRAYS) 9 in 62
I rated Carlo as a player, but I’d never suggest he scored lots of goals…
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Yet, he played over 100 games in the top flight, was signed by a premier league club after a decade of not scoring many goals, and was the best striker partner Clive mendonca ever had (in mendonca’s opinion).2
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I agree - as above, I rated Leaburn and defended him at the time - I’m just pointing out that he didn’t score “lots of goals”.paulsturgess said:Yet, he played over 100 games in the top flight, was signed by a premier league club after a decade of not scoring many goals, and was the best striker partner Clive mendonca ever had (in mendonca’s opinion).
Mendonca caveat - I believe Mendonca is quoted as saying Leaburn was his best strike partner at Charlton, rather than best strike partner ever - happy to be proved wrong.1
