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POST-MATCH THREAD: Charlton Athletic v Coventry City: Thursday 1st January 2026: KO 15:00
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Kelman looks so much sharper and quicker since he came back, just goes to show we really don’t know what goes on behind the scenes. Obviously we can only judge on what we see but it’s clear now things were not quite right.oohaahmortimer said:Coventry were struck down with a bug hence they were one short on the subs bench .
We were proper at it which was even more impressive with the horrific early goal against .
As a fan of Berry he was pony and shouldn’t be starting .
Bell is silk and a genuine pleasure to watch.
Their keeper nuts’d Leaburn at one point .
JRC unbelievable .
Kelmans strength in the build up to the goal impressive , I did fear the ref might have given a free kick for the nudge, muscling off the ball .
Really enjoyed the game and I’m thinking of relieving the mrs of her duty of care in taking petrolhead to Blackburn and may go up there if the Cnut can stop talking for the whole journey .
Feeling a lot more positive after that display .
I think it will be out of pompey , Oxford , us and Blackburn to fill the last two spots .
75% safety
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Yes you’re right, I’ve mixed up my rectangular brown haired centre backs. It’s a bit shocking really because that means it Jones who doesn’t throw himself at the shotNabySarr said:
Yeah you’re probably right it’s harsh, though it is actually Burke in the middle who nearly blocks the cross and Jones on the right with 2 men to worry about.Garrymanilow said:NabySarr said:
Berry loses the ball, Bell should have been quicker out to the crosser, and Burke loses his man in the middle. Those were the 3 players you could put some blame on. TC wasn’t at fault at all, he did what he’s supposed to do and made the forward run, then did his best to get backBailey said:
I'm thankful that you didn't cast any blame on Tyreece for yesterday’s disastrous draw Ronnie lol. I think you need to watch the highlights again mate, Tyreece goes forward awaiting an easy play to wide from Berry, Berry is slow to release and gets caught, Tyreece charges back to try to cover but the player releases it to Simms who scores. You can then watch the Charlton players verbally castigating Luke Berry, not Tyreece, don't mind if I trust the Charlton's team version of events rather than yours mate do you.RonnieMoore said:Said after the performance at Pompey that’s there positives and I fancied us today .. well again today performance was good and we were the better team and looked like the team at the top of the league .. People calling for changes again just ridiculous, keep changing does not work and it proved today with an unchanged team …..Once again a mistake cost us Campbell sleeping completely lost his player who had a free run to our area .. and goal .. but we showed great character and took control of the game . But like Pompey you need the ref to get simple descions correct and another stone wall pen missed with a clear hand ball .. we deserved the goal and actually we deserved to win , if this is the top side in championship we are not far away on today’s display .. Positives Burke was excellent , Costello , Kelman but MOM was Kaminski who pulled of a number of saves including incredible double save to stop them going 2 up which would have been game over but he won us that point .. disappointing again Campbell not only for their goal but he had numerous opportunities to create and failed and Bree althrough his defensive work was good his final ball and passing was way of the mark …
Onto Blackburn not a ground we get anything at but that has to change a win would be superb but we must not lose to them … today we saw a team far to good to go down and one not good enough for the premiershipMaybe a little harsh on Bell and Burke. Bell has to hand his man over to Jones first before moving and doesn't want to charge out too quickly and get skinned down the wing. van Ewjik then plays the ball surprising early and square before Bell and Campbell can fully close. It's very good movement from Simms too, he's the player who starts off nearest Bell and then he moves over to Jones. Then before the ball comes in he crosses over to where Burke is but the ball comes before he goes beyond him, Burke stays with his original man and Jones is just sort of in the middle. Bree is off on Mars or wherever and has left his man as well. That's Jones in the middle with Ellis Simms behind him and he's pointing at the left winger letting Burke know he's got two problems to worry about, neither of which are Simms
Two seconds later Simms has dropped off, Jones has moved to try and block the cross he expects to come across the box (Bell is also trying to block a ball across the face of goal) and Burke is still watching his original man. There's nothing anyone can do about the left winger at the far post. Burke has to go with the runner because they're assuming the ball is going into the space between the defenders and the keeper:
When the ball comes across Burke has gone with his man and Jones sees the cutback and just barely fails to cut the cross out. Simms is completely free to shoot. It's really good striker movement, he's gambled on Jones blocking the space in the box and overloaded Burke
I do think Burke could have done more to then try and block the shot though, he's let his man run once the cutback happens which he should but hasn't thrown himself at the shot like I expect Ramsay would have, but then it's barely 3 seconds of time to react.Bree looks quite slow to get back but I don’t think he was running well all game. The 3rd man is actually a midfield runner that one of Coventry or Costello should have picked up, it looks like Coventry gestures to Costello to follow him but he doesn’t1 -
Which shows how poor we are generally in the final third.Callumcafc said:We had 105 passes in the final third, they had 52. We had 35 touches in their penalty area, they had 26.5 -
A fantastic Point 👍👍👍👍👍
if only we had a serious consistent Striker !!!1 -
£14k for the crossbar challenge and whoever had it nominated a friend to take it for them
and in a long list of we have the most pathetic footballers as fans another super duper utterly duff attempt happened with the ball approximately 3 ft off the ground at its highest point , unbelievably abysmal
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Yes we need a LWB and ideally an attacking midfielder but it’s a natural goal scorer we’re in desperate need of. Not in the mould of Godden or hopefully Kelman but a proper centre forward who holds things up, brings others into play and gets in and around the six yard box. I had hoped Miles was going to fulfill that role but thus far he’s looked unlikely to score more than a handful at Championship level. Hard work and potential gets you only so far. Finding that player will I realise be hard and probably expensive but if we want to secure our Championship status and build on that then the owners will have to spend some money and not on squad fillers and hopefuls.AddicksAddict said:
Which shows how poor we are generally in the final third.Callumcafc said:We had 105 passes in the final third, they had 52. We had 35 touches in their penalty area, they had 26.3 -
Looking through Coventry's team, it could be argued that in Wright and Simms there is probably the best forward combination in the league, Ellis Simms fee is listed as undisclosed, Haji Wright cost 9 million euros, I am willing to bet it was close to ten million pounds between the two. Contrast that to our two forwards yesterday with Charlie Kelman's fee of 2.4 million and Miles Leaburn being home grown. Haji Wright is six years older than Miles at 28 and Simms is almost a year older than Kelman, with Simms reaching his 25th Birthday in three days time. Why does all this matter ? Well we are where we are, our players are developing, and we probably should be proud that our two forwards, who cost a quarter of what Coventry's strike force cost, gave them a real chasing yesterday.ShootersHillGuru said:
Yes we need a LWB and ideally an attacking midfielder but it’s a natural goal scorer we’re in desperate need of. Not in the mould of Godden or hopefully Kelman but a proper centre forward who holds things up, brings others into play and gets in and around the six yard box. I had hoped Miles was going to fulfill that role but thus far he’s looked unlikely to score more than a handful at Championship level. Hard work and potential gets you only so far. Finding that player will I realise be hard and probably expensive but if we want to secure our Championship status and build on that then the owners will have to spend some money and not on squad fillers and hopefuls.AddicksAddict said:
Which shows how poor we are generally in the final third.Callumcafc said:We had 105 passes in the final third, they had 52. We had 35 touches in their penalty area, they had 26.10 -
If you look at the replies, I was referencing RonnieMoores point, which is a factually incorrectThe Red Robin said:
Previous records and stats are completely pointless. This is practically a different club compared to the last time we played them.BalladMan said:
The last time we were in the champ we won 2-1 at Blackburn away first game of the season. Our record is not even that bad there overall in the last 4 league games as followsRonnieMoore said:Said after the performance at Pompey that’s there positives and I fancied us today .. well again today performance was good and we were the better team and looked like the team at the top of the league .. People calling for changes again just ridiculous, keep changing does not work and it proved today with an unchanged team …..Once again a mistake cost us Campbell sleeping completely lost his player who had a free run to our area .. and goal .. but we showed great character and took control of the game . But like Pompey you need the ref to get simple descions correct and another stone wall pen missed with a clear hand ball .. we deserved the goal and actually we deserved to win , if this is the top side in championship we are not far away on today’s display .. Positives Burke was excellent , Costello , Kelman but MOM was Kaminski who pulled of a number of saves including incredible double save to stop them going 2 up which would have been game over but he won us that point .. disappointing again Campbell not only for their goal but he had numerous opportunities to create and failed and Bree althrough his defensive work was good his final ball and passing was way of the mark …
Onto Blackburn not a ground we get anything at but that has to change a win would be superb but we must not lose to them … today we saw a team far to good to go down and one not good enough for the premiership- Blackburn’s home record against Charlton in recent meetings is mixed, with two wins for Blackburn (2014, 2015) and two away wins for Charlton ( 2019, 2013) at Ewood Park.
Not sure why all the doom and gloom about playing them, although we have not played that well away at the poorer teams this season, so maybe a reason why.
Onto Blackburn not a ground we get anything at but that has to change a win would be superb but we must not lose to them
this team is a lot more like Bowyers team (especially as it had Connor Gallagher in it at the time) in 19/20 than any in the decade preceeding it, so I am not sure I 100% agree that the team is completely different to one's that came before.1 -
Hear you, I really do but if we want to be where Coventry are at some point over the next few seasons which I presume we do, then that’s the level of quality we have to match. Miles is young and might yet come good but to me he looks a shadow of what he was even in his short career. He might yet step up but can we afford to wait and hope. Kelman although looking better since his return has in my opinion failed to live up to our hopes and like Miles yet might come good but can we afford to wait and hope. I’d say not. For me, in my humble opinion we’re still very much in a relegation scrap and going back to an earlier post we’re very much lacking in consistent goal threat. Unless we address that I think we’ll continue to struggle. I see that there is a train of thought that suggests that once we get our wing backs sorted the goals will come. I hope that’s right but getting crosses in without having someone on the end will leave us precisely where we currently are.Bailey said:
Looking through Coventry's team, it could be argued that in Wright and Simms there is probably the best forward combination in the league, Ellis Simms fee is listed as undisclosed, Haji Wright cost 9 million euros, I am willing to bet it was close to ten million pounds between the two. Contrast that to our two forwards yesterday with Charlie Kelman's fee of 2.4 million and Miles Leaburn being home grown. Haji Wright is six years older than Miles at 28 and Simms is almost a year older than Kelman, with Simms reaching his 25th Birthday in three days time. Why does all this matter ? Well we are where we are, our players are developing, and we probably should be proud that our two forwards, who cost a quarter of what Coventry's strike force cost, gave them a real chasing yesterday.ShootersHillGuru said:
Yes we need a LWB and ideally an attacking midfielder but it’s a natural goal scorer we’re in desperate need of. Not in the mould of Godden or hopefully Kelman but a proper centre forward who holds things up, brings others into play and gets in and around the six yard box. I had hoped Miles was going to fulfill that role but thus far he’s looked unlikely to score more than a handful at Championship level. Hard work and potential gets you only so far. Finding that player will I realise be hard and probably expensive but if we want to secure our Championship status and build on that then the owners will have to spend some money and not on squad fillers and hopefuls.AddicksAddict said:
Which shows how poor we are generally in the final third.Callumcafc said:We had 105 passes in the final third, they had 52. We had 35 touches in their penalty area, they had 26.2 -
Agreed - Phil Chapple needs to have the window of his life - I think he can do it 🤞ShootersHillGuru said:
Yes we need a LWB and ideally an attacking midfielder but it’s a natural goal scorer we’re in desperate need of. Not in the mould of Godden or hopefully Kelman but a proper centre forward who holds things up, brings others into play and gets in and around the six yard box. I had hoped Miles was going to fulfill that role but thus far he’s looked unlikely to score more than a handful at Championship level. Hard work and potential gets you only so far. Finding that player will I realise be hard and probably expensive but if we want to secure our Championship status and build on that then the owners will have to spend some money and not on squad fillers and hopefuls.AddicksAddict said:
Which shows how poor we are generally in the final third.Callumcafc said:We had 105 passes in the final third, they had 52. We had 35 touches in their penalty area, they had 26.4 -
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Also worth remembering that Coventry were in a dire situation a few years ago on and off the pitch so they are now being bankrolled - why not us ?Bailey said:
Looking through Coventry's team, it could be argued that in Wright and Simms there is probably the best forward combination in the league, Ellis Simms fee is listed as undisclosed, Haji Wright cost 9 million euros, I am willing to bet it was close to ten million pounds between the two. Contrast that to our two forwards yesterday with Charlie Kelman's fee of 2.4 million and Miles Leaburn being home grown. Haji Wright is six years older than Miles at 28 and Simms is almost a year older than Kelman, with Simms reaching his 25th Birthday in three days time. Why does all this matter ? Well we are where we are, our players are developing, and we probably should be proud that our two forwards, who cost a quarter of what Coventry's strike force cost, gave them a real chasing yesterday.ShootersHillGuru said:
Yes we need a LWB and ideally an attacking midfielder but it’s a natural goal scorer we’re in desperate need of. Not in the mould of Godden or hopefully Kelman but a proper centre forward who holds things up, brings others into play and gets in and around the six yard box. I had hoped Miles was going to fulfill that role but thus far he’s looked unlikely to score more than a handful at Championship level. Hard work and potential gets you only so far. Finding that player will I realise be hard and probably expensive but if we want to secure our Championship status and build on that then the owners will have to spend some money and not on squad fillers and hopefuls.AddicksAddict said:
Which shows how poor we are generally in the final third.Callumcafc said:We had 105 passes in the final third, they had 52. We had 35 touches in their penalty area, they had 26.0 -
I agree 100% - if Leaburn was ripping it up as a target man, we’d have a decision to make but for me, he’s trying hard, doing ok but still a work in progress - this makes the purchase of a mobile target man a no brainier - u then have Godden 🤞and Leaburn as the back ups with TC floating around as the pacy option and if I’m honest that leaves Tanto as the spare partShootersHillGuru said:
Hear you, I really do but if we want to be where Coventry are at some point over the next few seasons which I presume we do, then that’s the level of quality we have to match. Miles is young and might yet come good but to me he looks a shadow of what he was even in his short career. He might yet step up but can we afford to wait and hope. Kelman although looking better since his return has in my opinion failed to live up to our hopes and like Miles yet might come good but can we afford to wait and hope. I’d say not. For me, in my humble opinion we’re still very much in a relegation scrap and going back to an earlier post we’re very much lacking in consistent goal threat. Unless we address that I think we’ll continue to struggle. I see that there is a train of thought that suggests that once we get our wing backs sorted the goals will come. I hope that’s right but getting crosses in without having someone on the end will leave us precisely where we currently are.Bailey said:
Looking through Coventry's team, it could be argued that in Wright and Simms there is probably the best forward combination in the league, Ellis Simms fee is listed as undisclosed, Haji Wright cost 9 million euros, I am willing to bet it was close to ten million pounds between the two. Contrast that to our two forwards yesterday with Charlie Kelman's fee of 2.4 million and Miles Leaburn being home grown. Haji Wright is six years older than Miles at 28 and Simms is almost a year older than Kelman, with Simms reaching his 25th Birthday in three days time. Why does all this matter ? Well we are where we are, our players are developing, and we probably should be proud that our two forwards, who cost a quarter of what Coventry's strike force cost, gave them a real chasing yesterday.ShootersHillGuru said:
Yes we need a LWB and ideally an attacking midfielder but it’s a natural goal scorer we’re in desperate need of. Not in the mould of Godden or hopefully Kelman but a proper centre forward who holds things up, brings others into play and gets in and around the six yard box. I had hoped Miles was going to fulfill that role but thus far he’s looked unlikely to score more than a handful at Championship level. Hard work and potential gets you only so far. Finding that player will I realise be hard and probably expensive but if we want to secure our Championship status and build on that then the owners will have to spend some money and not on squad fillers and hopefuls.AddicksAddict said:
Which shows how poor we are generally in the final third.Callumcafc said:We had 105 passes in the final third, they had 52. We had 35 touches in their penalty area, they had 26.4 -
I haven't looked into their financial structure but it's interesting as you say DOUCHER that they have gone from rags to riches in a relatively short space of time.DOUCHER said:
Also worth remembering that Coventry were in a dire situation a few years ago on and off the pitch so they are now being bankrolled - why not us ?Bailey said:
Looking through Coventry's team, it could be argued that in Wright and Simms there is probably the best forward combination in the league, Ellis Simms fee is listed as undisclosed, Haji Wright cost 9 million euros, I am willing to bet it was close to ten million pounds between the two. Contrast that to our two forwards yesterday with Charlie Kelman's fee of 2.4 million and Miles Leaburn being home grown. Haji Wright is six years older than Miles at 28 and Simms is almost a year older than Kelman, with Simms reaching his 25th Birthday in three days time. Why does all this matter ? Well we are where we are, our players are developing, and we probably should be proud that our two forwards, who cost a quarter of what Coventry's strike force cost, gave them a real chasing yesterday.ShootersHillGuru said:
Yes we need a LWB and ideally an attacking midfielder but it’s a natural goal scorer we’re in desperate need of. Not in the mould of Godden or hopefully Kelman but a proper centre forward who holds things up, brings others into play and gets in and around the six yard box. I had hoped Miles was going to fulfill that role but thus far he’s looked unlikely to score more than a handful at Championship level. Hard work and potential gets you only so far. Finding that player will I realise be hard and probably expensive but if we want to secure our Championship status and build on that then the owners will have to spend some money and not on squad fillers and hopefuls.AddicksAddict said:
Which shows how poor we are generally in the final third.Callumcafc said:We had 105 passes in the final third, they had 52. We had 35 touches in their penalty area, they had 26.0 -
We have Carey, Berry, Knibbs and potentially JRC and Fullah as AMF. Why do we need more?ShootersHillGuru said:
Yes we need a LWB and ideally an attacking midfielder but it’s a natural goal scorer we’re in desperate need of. Not in the mould of Godden or hopefully Kelman but a proper centre forward who holds things up, brings others into play and gets in and around the six yard box. I had hoped Miles was going to fulfill that role but thus far he’s looked unlikely to score more than a handful at Championship level. Hard work and potential gets you only so far. Finding that player will I realise be hard and probably expensive but if we want to secure our Championship status and build on that then the owners will have to spend some money and not on squad fillers and hopefuls.AddicksAddict said:
Which shows how poor we are generally in the final third.Callumcafc said:We had 105 passes in the final third, they had 52. We had 35 touches in their penalty area, they had 26.0 -
Maybe because:Gisappointed said:
We have Carey, Berry, Knibbs and potentially JRC and Fullah as AMF. Why do we need more?ShootersHillGuru said:
Yes we need a LWB and ideally an attacking midfielder but it’s a natural goal scorer we’re in desperate need of. Not in the mould of Godden or hopefully Kelman but a proper centre forward who holds things up, brings others into play and gets in and around the six yard box. I had hoped Miles was going to fulfill that role but thus far he’s looked unlikely to score more than a handful at Championship level. Hard work and potential gets you only so far. Finding that player will I realise be hard and probably expensive but if we want to secure our Championship status and build on that then the owners will have to spend some money and not on squad fillers and hopefuls.AddicksAddict said:
Which shows how poor we are generally in the final third.Callumcafc said:We had 105 passes in the final third, they had 52. We had 35 touches in their penalty area, they had 26.
Carey gone off the boil, but may improve again now Kelman is back, but hasn’t been picking the best passes.
Berry not done enough
knibbs same as Berry
JRC only just turned up
Fullah being thrown into the deep end with no guarantee it will work.Not saying that at least one will not up they’re game but you asked why we might need more.
what doesn’t help us is the championship is no longer a division to be trying things out for too long a time, it’s become too competitive.2 -
Berry particularly I think is being played because of past affiliations with NJ. He seems off it and wants far too much time on the ball imo. Personally I would start either Carey or Fullah in his placeSword65pf said:
Maybe because:Gisappointed said:
We have Carey, Berry, Knibbs and potentially JRC and Fullah as AMF. Why do we need more?ShootersHillGuru said:
Yes we need a LWB and ideally an attacking midfielder but it’s a natural goal scorer we’re in desperate need of. Not in the mould of Godden or hopefully Kelman but a proper centre forward who holds things up, brings others into play and gets in and around the six yard box. I had hoped Miles was going to fulfill that role but thus far he’s looked unlikely to score more than a handful at Championship level. Hard work and potential gets you only so far. Finding that player will I realise be hard and probably expensive but if we want to secure our Championship status and build on that then the owners will have to spend some money and not on squad fillers and hopefuls.AddicksAddict said:
Which shows how poor we are generally in the final third.Callumcafc said:We had 105 passes in the final third, they had 52. We had 35 touches in their penalty area, they had 26.
Carey gone off the boil, but may improve again now Kelman is back, but hasn’t been picking the best passes.
Berry not done enough
knibbs same as Berry
JRC only just turned up
Fullah being thrown into the deep end with no guarantee it will work.Not saying that at least one will up their game but you asked why we might need more.3 -
We certainly have bodies but is there enough quality in that mix ?Gisappointed said:
We have Carey, Berry, Knibbs and potentially JRC and Fullah as AMF. Why do we need more?ShootersHillGuru said:
Yes we need a LWB and ideally an attacking midfielder but it’s a natural goal scorer we’re in desperate need of. Not in the mould of Godden or hopefully Kelman but a proper centre forward who holds things up, brings others into play and gets in and around the six yard box. I had hoped Miles was going to fulfill that role but thus far he’s looked unlikely to score more than a handful at Championship level. Hard work and potential gets you only so far. Finding that player will I realise be hard and probably expensive but if we want to secure our Championship status and build on that then the owners will have to spend some money and not on squad fillers and hopefuls.AddicksAddict said:
Which shows how poor we are generally in the final third.Callumcafc said:We had 105 passes in the final third, they had 52. We had 35 touches in their penalty area, they had 26.1 -
Yeah I’d agree, although I’m on the fence with Fullah short term I’ve a feel that his energy and to be fair skill might do us well in the no.10 to start, if it’s too much for him swap for , Carey, Knibbs.AndyG said:
Berry particularly I think is being played because of past affiliations with NJ. He seems off it and wants far too much time on the ball imo. Personally I would start either Carey or Fullah in his placeSword65pf said:
Maybe because:Gisappointed said:
We have Carey, Berry, Knibbs and potentially JRC and Fullah as AMF. Why do we need more?ShootersHillGuru said:
Yes we need a LWB and ideally an attacking midfielder but it’s a natural goal scorer we’re in desperate need of. Not in the mould of Godden or hopefully Kelman but a proper centre forward who holds things up, brings others into play and gets in and around the six yard box. I had hoped Miles was going to fulfill that role but thus far he’s looked unlikely to score more than a handful at Championship level. Hard work and potential gets you only so far. Finding that player will I realise be hard and probably expensive but if we want to secure our Championship status and build on that then the owners will have to spend some money and not on squad fillers and hopefuls.AddicksAddict said:
Which shows how poor we are generally in the final third.Callumcafc said:We had 105 passes in the final third, they had 52. We had 35 touches in their penalty area, they had 26.
Carey gone off the boil, but may improve again now Kelman is back, but hasn’t been picking the best passes.
Berry not done enough
knibbs same as Berry
JRC only just turned up
Fullah being thrown into the deep end with no guarantee it will work.Not saying that at least one will up their game but you asked why we might need more.0 -
Was it Bree who took it?oohaahmortimer said:£14k for the crossbar challenge and whoever had it nominated a friend to take it for them
and in a long list of we have the most pathetic footballers as fans another super duper utterly duff attempt happened with the ball approximately 3 ft off the ground at its highest point , unbelievably abysmal6 -
Killer would have scoredmayoboy said:I thought Kelman reminded me of Derek Hales for that goal.He had no right to win that ball, he went shoulder to shoulder with their defender and won that battle and then sprinting onto goal he had only one thing on his mind which was to hit the shot and make the goalkeeper produce a good save.That is precisely what I want my strikers to do, sprint towards the goal, shoot and not make a backwards pass which gives their defenders a chance to get back.Well done Kelman and especially for Costello for busting a gut to get in the box.
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😴😴😴...CharltonManor1966 said:
Was it Bree who took it?oohaahmortimer said:£14k for the crossbar challenge and whoever had it nominated a friend to take it for them
and in a long list of we have the most pathetic footballers as fans another super duper utterly duff attempt happened with the ball approximately 3 ft off the ground at its highest point , unbelievably abysmal1 -
Unfortunately you can’t just bankroll a club in the championship anymore, unless you’ve got parachute money you’ve got to make your own money.DOUCHER said:
Also worth remembering that Coventry were in a dire situation a few years ago on and off the pitch so they are now being bankrolled - why not us ?Bailey said:
Looking through Coventry's team, it could be argued that in Wright and Simms there is probably the best forward combination in the league, Ellis Simms fee is listed as undisclosed, Haji Wright cost 9 million euros, I am willing to bet it was close to ten million pounds between the two. Contrast that to our two forwards yesterday with Charlie Kelman's fee of 2.4 million and Miles Leaburn being home grown. Haji Wright is six years older than Miles at 28 and Simms is almost a year older than Kelman, with Simms reaching his 25th Birthday in three days time. Why does all this matter ? Well we are where we are, our players are developing, and we probably should be proud that our two forwards, who cost a quarter of what Coventry's strike force cost, gave them a real chasing yesterday.ShootersHillGuru said:
Yes we need a LWB and ideally an attacking midfielder but it’s a natural goal scorer we’re in desperate need of. Not in the mould of Godden or hopefully Kelman but a proper centre forward who holds things up, brings others into play and gets in and around the six yard box. I had hoped Miles was going to fulfill that role but thus far he’s looked unlikely to score more than a handful at Championship level. Hard work and potential gets you only so far. Finding that player will I realise be hard and probably expensive but if we want to secure our Championship status and build on that then the owners will have to spend some money and not on squad fillers and hopefuls.AddicksAddict said:
Which shows how poor we are generally in the final third.Callumcafc said:We had 105 passes in the final third, they had 52. We had 35 touches in their penalty area, they had 26.Coventry sold Gyokeres (and got the sell on fee for the Arsenal move) and Hamer for huge fees. Also sold Hyam to Wrexham this summer for good money. If we are to become a team with a big budget in this league we will have to do it mainly through buying and selling well. Would have to get revenues up also, Coventry regularly sell out their ground and are charging £45 for some games
We absolutely should be trying to do a Coventry, but they’ve been in the championship for 7 years which gives you an idea of how long that process can take9 -
i am not entirely sure about ages,but I think Bell,Berry and Jones are the only 30 plus year olds in our squad.The experience our younger players get this year will be invaluable,if we can stay up next year could be interesting.
Shout for JRC,I said some weeks ago I didnt think he had had much of a chance,too which I received several comments that he had not performed when he had played,well after the last two games,I rest my case.He could well be the midfield organiser we have so needed.Have to say Bell looks to be in a class of his own at the moment,please keep him fit.0 -
It also highlights the importance of having a scouting network beyond the EFL.NabySarr said:
Unfortunately you can’t just bankroll a club in the championship anymore, unless you’ve got parachute money you’ve got to make your own money.DOUCHER said:
Also worth remembering that Coventry were in a dire situation a few years ago on and off the pitch so they are now being bankrolled - why not us ?Bailey said:
Looking through Coventry's team, it could be argued that in Wright and Simms there is probably the best forward combination in the league, Ellis Simms fee is listed as undisclosed, Haji Wright cost 9 million euros, I am willing to bet it was close to ten million pounds between the two. Contrast that to our two forwards yesterday with Charlie Kelman's fee of 2.4 million and Miles Leaburn being home grown. Haji Wright is six years older than Miles at 28 and Simms is almost a year older than Kelman, with Simms reaching his 25th Birthday in three days time. Why does all this matter ? Well we are where we are, our players are developing, and we probably should be proud that our two forwards, who cost a quarter of what Coventry's strike force cost, gave them a real chasing yesterday.ShootersHillGuru said:
Yes we need a LWB and ideally an attacking midfielder but it’s a natural goal scorer we’re in desperate need of. Not in the mould of Godden or hopefully Kelman but a proper centre forward who holds things up, brings others into play and gets in and around the six yard box. I had hoped Miles was going to fulfill that role but thus far he’s looked unlikely to score more than a handful at Championship level. Hard work and potential gets you only so far. Finding that player will I realise be hard and probably expensive but if we want to secure our Championship status and build on that then the owners will have to spend some money and not on squad fillers and hopefuls.AddicksAddict said:
Which shows how poor we are generally in the final third.Callumcafc said:We had 105 passes in the final third, they had 52. We had 35 touches in their penalty area, they had 26.Coventry sold Gyokeres (and got the sell on fee for the Arsenal move) and Hamer for huge fees. Also sold Hyam to Wrexham this summer for good money. If we are to become a team with a big budget in this league we will have to do it mainly through buying and selling well. Would have to get revenues up also, Coventry regularly sell out their ground and are charging £45 for some games
We absolutely should be trying to do a Coventry, but they’ve been in the championship for 7 years which gives you an idea of how long that process can take2 -
We have certainly progressed as a club since last season. I’d say both on and off the field. We’re a Championship club and all that really matters this season is that we retain that status. As of this moment I’d suggest that our Championship status is if not hanging in the balance is pretty uncertain. I’d like to think and hope that Jones and the money realise that and act accordingly. We don’t need PL kids, squad fillers or league one punts we need three to come in and be good enough to start. Easy for me to say but I’d say anything less risks all the hard work that’s been achieved over the last two years. A relegation would mean losing the key members of the squad and starting again. I hope not.3
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My fear (and nightmare) is that he replicates his father's career & we are still saying to give him time to develop in 5 years time 😔DOUCHER said:
I agree 100% - if Leaburn was ripping it up as a target man, we’d have a decision to make but for me, he’s trying hard, doing ok but still a work in progress - this makes the purchase of a mobile target man a no brainier - u then have Godden 🤞and Leaburn as the back ups with TC floating around as the pacy option and if I’m honest that leaves Tanto as the spare partShootersHillGuru said:
Hear you, I really do but if we want to be where Coventry are at some point over the next few seasons which I presume we do, then that’s the level of quality we have to match. Miles is young and might yet come good but to me he looks a shadow of what he was even in his short career. He might yet step up but can we afford to wait and hope. Kelman although looking better since his return has in my opinion failed to live up to our hopes and like Miles yet might come good but can we afford to wait and hope. I’d say not. For me, in my humble opinion we’re still very much in a relegation scrap and going back to an earlier post we’re very much lacking in consistent goal threat. Unless we address that I think we’ll continue to struggle. I see that there is a train of thought that suggests that once we get our wing backs sorted the goals will come. I hope that’s right but getting crosses in without having someone on the end will leave us precisely where we currently are.Bailey said:
Looking through Coventry's team, it could be argued that in Wright and Simms there is probably the best forward combination in the league, Ellis Simms fee is listed as undisclosed, Haji Wright cost 9 million euros, I am willing to bet it was close to ten million pounds between the two. Contrast that to our two forwards yesterday with Charlie Kelman's fee of 2.4 million and Miles Leaburn being home grown. Haji Wright is six years older than Miles at 28 and Simms is almost a year older than Kelman, with Simms reaching his 25th Birthday in three days time. Why does all this matter ? Well we are where we are, our players are developing, and we probably should be proud that our two forwards, who cost a quarter of what Coventry's strike force cost, gave them a real chasing yesterday.ShootersHillGuru said:
Yes we need a LWB and ideally an attacking midfielder but it’s a natural goal scorer we’re in desperate need of. Not in the mould of Godden or hopefully Kelman but a proper centre forward who holds things up, brings others into play and gets in and around the six yard box. I had hoped Miles was going to fulfill that role but thus far he’s looked unlikely to score more than a handful at Championship level. Hard work and potential gets you only so far. Finding that player will I realise be hard and probably expensive but if we want to secure our Championship status and build on that then the owners will have to spend some money and not on squad fillers and hopefuls.AddicksAddict said:
Which shows how poor we are generally in the final third.Callumcafc said:We had 105 passes in the final third, they had 52. We had 35 touches in their penalty area, they had 26.0 -
Yes that’s where the real value is. Especially since most UK talent is hoovered up very early by the big clubs nowadays. I think focusing on domestic recruitment was the correct approach this year, as it’s less risky and we needed to make sure we stay up. If we can establish ourselves at this level then we can start to take more risks in future windowsThe Red Robin said:
It also highlights the importance of having a scouting network beyond the EFL.NabySarr said:
Unfortunately you can’t just bankroll a club in the championship anymore, unless you’ve got parachute money you’ve got to make your own money.DOUCHER said:
Also worth remembering that Coventry were in a dire situation a few years ago on and off the pitch so they are now being bankrolled - why not us ?Bailey said:
Looking through Coventry's team, it could be argued that in Wright and Simms there is probably the best forward combination in the league, Ellis Simms fee is listed as undisclosed, Haji Wright cost 9 million euros, I am willing to bet it was close to ten million pounds between the two. Contrast that to our two forwards yesterday with Charlie Kelman's fee of 2.4 million and Miles Leaburn being home grown. Haji Wright is six years older than Miles at 28 and Simms is almost a year older than Kelman, with Simms reaching his 25th Birthday in three days time. Why does all this matter ? Well we are where we are, our players are developing, and we probably should be proud that our two forwards, who cost a quarter of what Coventry's strike force cost, gave them a real chasing yesterday.ShootersHillGuru said:
Yes we need a LWB and ideally an attacking midfielder but it’s a natural goal scorer we’re in desperate need of. Not in the mould of Godden or hopefully Kelman but a proper centre forward who holds things up, brings others into play and gets in and around the six yard box. I had hoped Miles was going to fulfill that role but thus far he’s looked unlikely to score more than a handful at Championship level. Hard work and potential gets you only so far. Finding that player will I realise be hard and probably expensive but if we want to secure our Championship status and build on that then the owners will have to spend some money and not on squad fillers and hopefuls.AddicksAddict said:
Which shows how poor we are generally in the final third.Callumcafc said:We had 105 passes in the final third, they had 52. We had 35 touches in their penalty area, they had 26.Coventry sold Gyokeres (and got the sell on fee for the Arsenal move) and Hamer for huge fees. Also sold Hyam to Wrexham this summer for good money. If we are to become a team with a big budget in this league we will have to do it mainly through buying and selling well. Would have to get revenues up also, Coventry regularly sell out their ground and are charging £45 for some games
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Kaminski, Godden and Gilesphey are 30+. And of course the deeply influential Hernandez and Roussillonthickandthin63 said:i am not entirely sure about ages,but I think Bell,Berry and Jones are the only 30 plus year olds in our squad.The experience our younger players get this year will be invaluable,if we can stay up next year could be interesting.
Shout for JRC,I said some weeks ago I didnt think he had had much of a chance,too which I received several comments that he had not performed when he had played,well after the last two games,I rest my case.He could well be the midfield organiser we have so needed.Have to say Bell looks to be in a class of his own at the moment,please keep him fit.0 -
These are basically our only options though? Where we are now, we can sign players on loan from the PL, players that aren’t playing for other championship teams, or players from league 1 we think can step up. We don’t have the ability to attract championship first team footballers until we’ve established ourselves at this level. So for now we have to keep shopping in those markets and signing the best players we canShootersHillGuru said:We have certainly progressed as a club since last season. I’d say both on and off the field. We’re a Championship club and all that really matters this season is that we retain that status. As of this moment I’d suggest that our Championship status is if not hanging in the balance is pretty uncertain. I’d like to think and hope that Jones and the money realise that and act accordingly. We don’t need PL kids, squad fillers or league one punts we need three to come in and be good enough to start. Easy for me to say but I’d say anything less risks all the hard work that’s been achieved over the last two years. A relegation would mean losing the key members of the squad and starting again. I hope not.2 -
Coventry fan vlog - gives us a lot of credit to be fair to him
https://youtu.be/7f8oO_tUH4w?si=-y2Xd-aIRwkA89lN
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