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  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 5,065
    fenaddick said:
    The NTT20 view

    Luke Chambers (LB/CB) - [Liverpool - Charlton] - Loan

    Charlton fans, rejoice. You’ve signed a new left-sided defender! With Tyreece Campbell having to fill in at left wing-back due to Josh Edwards missing a “catastrophic” amount of football (Nathan Jones’ words) and Jérôme Roussillon just… missing, Chambers’ arrival is timely. There is a catch, however: the Liverpool youngster has recently recovered from his own long-term injury.

    Chambers, 21, has previously impressed on loan at Kilmarnock and Wigan. He’s technically good, very composed in possession, and keen to get forward. He isn’t as comfortable going the other way, and can be found wanting in physical duels. Due to his recent injury and lack of game time, it’s hard to imagine him playing week in, week out, but if he can stay fit then Chambers should be a useful addition for the Addicks.

    This really doesn’t fill me with any confidence at all.

    we basically need to get another lb so they can alternate the rest of the season. 

    I agree with some on here that this isn’t the signing we needed in the sense of anyone is better than no one. 

    We should have focused on someone that can play week in week out, there are options out there 
    Can you name some please, players that are available (ie not needed where they are and whose wages we could afford and whose owning club arn't a rival to us).  
    Bali Mumba was available from Plymouth, championship experience (50 odd games) left back/ lwb and went for around 1 mill. Is that good enough? 
    Harry Amass standout at owls on loan from Man U being recalled and reloaded out apparently. Showed he can play well in the championship and is also a left back. A loan would have sorted us out till summer and he has played more or less all championship games 
    Half the championship are after him. People need to understand where we are in the pecking order. That’s not a realistic signing 
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,754
    fenaddick said:
    The NTT20 view

    Luke Chambers (LB/CB) - [Liverpool - Charlton] - Loan

    Charlton fans, rejoice. You’ve signed a new left-sided defender! With Tyreece Campbell having to fill in at left wing-back due to Josh Edwards missing a “catastrophic” amount of football (Nathan Jones’ words) and Jérôme Roussillon just… missing, Chambers’ arrival is timely. There is a catch, however: the Liverpool youngster has recently recovered from his own long-term injury.

    Chambers, 21, has previously impressed on loan at Kilmarnock and Wigan. He’s technically good, very composed in possession, and keen to get forward. He isn’t as comfortable going the other way, and can be found wanting in physical duels. Due to his recent injury and lack of game time, it’s hard to imagine him playing week in, week out, but if he can stay fit then Chambers should be a useful addition for the Addicks.

    This really doesn’t fill me with any confidence at all.

    we basically need to get another lb so they can alternate the rest of the season. 

    I agree with some on here that this isn’t the signing we needed in the sense of anyone is better than no one. 

    We should have focused on someone that can play week in week out, there are options out there 
    Can you name some please, players that are available (ie not needed where they are and whose wages we could afford and whose owning club arn't a rival to us).  
    Bali Mumba was available from Plymouth, championship experience (50 odd games) left back/ lwb and went for around 1 mill. Is that good enough? 
    Bali Mumba had a superb L1 season for Plymouth in 22/23, same as Gillesphey did. He played in the Championship the next season as Plymouth just barely avoided relegation and then the following one where they actually did get relegated. He was nothing special in the Championship and lost all the momentum he'd built in L1 and hadn't been pulling up trees this time round for 14th placed Plymouth. He's now been signed by a fellow L1 side who are pushing to go up via the Play-Offs. So to be honest no, not really good enough. I'd put him on a level with Gillesphey, he's the kind of player who can play for a top 10 L1 side and go up if the setup is right but will be exposed at Championship level. As far as I can see there weren't any other Championship teams interested in him which is why he's gone to a team in the same division.
  • fenaddick said:
    The NTT20 view

    Luke Chambers (LB/CB) - [Liverpool - Charlton] - Loan

    Charlton fans, rejoice. You’ve signed a new left-sided defender! With Tyreece Campbell having to fill in at left wing-back due to Josh Edwards missing a “catastrophic” amount of football (Nathan Jones’ words) and Jérôme Roussillon just… missing, Chambers’ arrival is timely. There is a catch, however: the Liverpool youngster has recently recovered from his own long-term injury.

    Chambers, 21, has previously impressed on loan at Kilmarnock and Wigan. He’s technically good, very composed in possession, and keen to get forward. He isn’t as comfortable going the other way, and can be found wanting in physical duels. Due to his recent injury and lack of game time, it’s hard to imagine him playing week in, week out, but if he can stay fit then Chambers should be a useful addition for the Addicks.

    This really doesn’t fill me with any confidence at all.

    we basically need to get another lb so they can alternate the rest of the season. 

    I agree with some on here that this isn’t the signing we needed in the sense of anyone is better than no one. 

    We should have focused on someone that can play week in week out, there are options out there 
    Can you name some please, players that are available (ie not needed where they are and whose wages we could afford and whose owning club arn't a rival to us).  
    Bali Mumba was available from Plymouth, championship experience (50 odd games) left back/ lwb and went for around 1 mill. Is that good enough? 
    If he's that good then why did no Championship club try to sign him?
  • fenaddick said:
    The NTT20 view

    Luke Chambers (LB/CB) - [Liverpool - Charlton] - Loan

    Charlton fans, rejoice. You’ve signed a new left-sided defender! With Tyreece Campbell having to fill in at left wing-back due to Josh Edwards missing a “catastrophic” amount of football (Nathan Jones’ words) and Jérôme Roussillon just… missing, Chambers’ arrival is timely. There is a catch, however: the Liverpool youngster has recently recovered from his own long-term injury.

    Chambers, 21, has previously impressed on loan at Kilmarnock and Wigan. He’s technically good, very composed in possession, and keen to get forward. He isn’t as comfortable going the other way, and can be found wanting in physical duels. Due to his recent injury and lack of game time, it’s hard to imagine him playing week in, week out, but if he can stay fit then Chambers should be a useful addition for the Addicks.

    This really doesn’t fill me with any confidence at all.

    we basically need to get another lb so they can alternate the rest of the season. 

    I agree with some on here that this isn’t the signing we needed in the sense of anyone is better than no one. 

    We should have focused on someone that can play week in week out, there are options out there 
    Can you name some please, players that are available (ie not needed where they are and whose wages we could afford and whose owning club arn't a rival to us).  
    Bali Mumba was available from Plymouth, championship experience (50 odd games) left back/ lwb and went for around 1 mill. Is that good enough? 
    If he's that good then why did no Championship club try to sign him?
    Have you got proof they didn’t? 
  • fenaddick said:
    The NTT20 view

    Luke Chambers (LB/CB) - [Liverpool - Charlton] - Loan

    Charlton fans, rejoice. You’ve signed a new left-sided defender! With Tyreece Campbell having to fill in at left wing-back due to Josh Edwards missing a “catastrophic” amount of football (Nathan Jones’ words) and Jérôme Roussillon just… missing, Chambers’ arrival is timely. There is a catch, however: the Liverpool youngster has recently recovered from his own long-term injury.

    Chambers, 21, has previously impressed on loan at Kilmarnock and Wigan. He’s technically good, very composed in possession, and keen to get forward. He isn’t as comfortable going the other way, and can be found wanting in physical duels. Due to his recent injury and lack of game time, it’s hard to imagine him playing week in, week out, but if he can stay fit then Chambers should be a useful addition for the Addicks.

    This really doesn’t fill me with any confidence at all.

    we basically need to get another lb so they can alternate the rest of the season. 

    I agree with some on here that this isn’t the signing we needed in the sense of anyone is better than no one. 

    We should have focused on someone that can play week in week out, there are options out there 
    Can you name some please, players that are available (ie not needed where they are and whose wages we could afford and whose owning club arn't a rival to us).  
    Bali Mumba was available from Plymouth, championship experience (50 odd games) left back/ lwb and went for around 1 mill. Is that good enough? 
    If he's that good then why did no Championship club try to sign him?
    Have you got proof they didn’t? 
    Have you got proof then that they did? - Surely works both ways?
  • fenaddick said:
    The NTT20 view

    Luke Chambers (LB/CB) - [Liverpool - Charlton] - Loan

    Charlton fans, rejoice. You’ve signed a new left-sided defender! With Tyreece Campbell having to fill in at left wing-back due to Josh Edwards missing a “catastrophic” amount of football (Nathan Jones’ words) and Jérôme Roussillon just… missing, Chambers’ arrival is timely. There is a catch, however: the Liverpool youngster has recently recovered from his own long-term injury.

    Chambers, 21, has previously impressed on loan at Kilmarnock and Wigan. He’s technically good, very composed in possession, and keen to get forward. He isn’t as comfortable going the other way, and can be found wanting in physical duels. Due to his recent injury and lack of game time, it’s hard to imagine him playing week in, week out, but if he can stay fit then Chambers should be a useful addition for the Addicks.

    This really doesn’t fill me with any confidence at all.

    we basically need to get another lb so they can alternate the rest of the season. 

    I agree with some on here that this isn’t the signing we needed in the sense of anyone is better than no one. 

    We should have focused on someone that can play week in week out, there are options out there 
    Can you name some please, players that are available (ie not needed where they are and whose wages we could afford and whose owning club arn't a rival to us).  
    Bali Mumba was available from Plymouth, championship experience (50 odd games) left back/ lwb and went for around 1 mill. Is that good enough? 
    If he's that good then why did no Championship club try to sign him?
    Have you got proof they didn’t? 
    Have you got proof then that they did? - Surely works both ways?
    I’m not the one that made the statement am I 
  • NabySarr said:
    fenaddick said:
    The NTT20 view

    Luke Chambers (LB/CB) - [Liverpool - Charlton] - Loan

    Charlton fans, rejoice. You’ve signed a new left-sided defender! With Tyreece Campbell having to fill in at left wing-back due to Josh Edwards missing a “catastrophic” amount of football (Nathan Jones’ words) and Jérôme Roussillon just… missing, Chambers’ arrival is timely. There is a catch, however: the Liverpool youngster has recently recovered from his own long-term injury.

    Chambers, 21, has previously impressed on loan at Kilmarnock and Wigan. He’s technically good, very composed in possession, and keen to get forward. He isn’t as comfortable going the other way, and can be found wanting in physical duels. Due to his recent injury and lack of game time, it’s hard to imagine him playing week in, week out, but if he can stay fit then Chambers should be a useful addition for the Addicks.

    This really doesn’t fill me with any confidence at all.

    we basically need to get another lb so they can alternate the rest of the season. 

    I agree with some on here that this isn’t the signing we needed in the sense of anyone is better than no one. 

    We should have focused on someone that can play week in week out, there are options out there 
    Can you name some please, players that are available (ie not needed where they are and whose wages we could afford and whose owning club arn't a rival to us).  
    Bali Mumba was available from Plymouth, championship experience (50 odd games) left back/ lwb and went for around 1 mill. Is that good enough? 
    Harry Amass standout at owls on loan from Man U being recalled and reloaded out apparently. Showed he can play well in the championship and is also a left back. A loan would have sorted us out till summer and he has played more or less all championship games 
    Half the championship are after him. People need to understand where we are in the pecking order. That’s not a realistic signing 
    I was asked to name players that fit the criteria we needed who would be better than what we have signed I gave the examples both of them were achievable signings whether you think they aren’t or not. 
  • fenaddick said:
    The NTT20 view

    Luke Chambers (LB/CB) - [Liverpool - Charlton] - Loan

    Charlton fans, rejoice. You’ve signed a new left-sided defender! With Tyreece Campbell having to fill in at left wing-back due to Josh Edwards missing a “catastrophic” amount of football (Nathan Jones’ words) and Jérôme Roussillon just… missing, Chambers’ arrival is timely. There is a catch, however: the Liverpool youngster has recently recovered from his own long-term injury.

    Chambers, 21, has previously impressed on loan at Kilmarnock and Wigan. He’s technically good, very composed in possession, and keen to get forward. He isn’t as comfortable going the other way, and can be found wanting in physical duels. Due to his recent injury and lack of game time, it’s hard to imagine him playing week in, week out, but if he can stay fit then Chambers should be a useful addition for the Addicks.

    This really doesn’t fill me with any confidence at all.

    we basically need to get another lb so they can alternate the rest of the season. 

    I agree with some on here that this isn’t the signing we needed in the sense of anyone is better than no one. 

    We should have focused on someone that can play week in week out, there are options out there 
    Can you name some please, players that are available (ie not needed where they are and whose wages we could afford and whose owning club arn't a rival to us).  
    Bali Mumba was available from Plymouth, championship experience (50 odd games) left back/ lwb and went for around 1 mill. Is that good enough? 
    If he's that good then why did no Championship club try to sign him?
    Have you got proof they didn’t? 
    Well if you search online there is no link to any championship club trying to sign him, and the fact he's signed for a league one team 10 points off the automatic spots kind of backs that up.

    You could also ask yourself why Plymouth (6 points behind Huddersfield with a game in hand) were perfectly happy to sell him.
  • CombeMartin
    CombeMartin Posts: 148

    fenaddick said:
    The NTT20 view

    Luke Chambers (LB/CB) - [Liverpool - Charlton] - Loan

    Charlton fans, rejoice. You’ve signed a new left-sided defender! With Tyreece Campbell having to fill in at left wing-back due to Josh Edwards missing a “catastrophic” amount of football (Nathan Jones’ words) and Jérôme Roussillon just… missing, Chambers’ arrival is timely. There is a catch, however: the Liverpool youngster has recently recovered from his own long-term injury.

    Chambers, 21, has previously impressed on loan at Kilmarnock and Wigan. He’s technically good, very composed in possession, and keen to get forward. He isn’t as comfortable going the other way, and can be found wanting in physical duels. Due to his recent injury and lack of game time, it’s hard to imagine him playing week in, week out, but if he can stay fit then Chambers should be a useful addition for the Addicks.

    This really doesn’t fill me with any confidence at all.

    we basically need to get another lb so they can alternate the rest of the season. 

    I agree with some on here that this isn’t the signing we needed in the sense of anyone is better than no one. 

    We should have focused on someone that can play week in week out, there are options out there 
    Can you name some please, players that are available (ie not needed where they are and whose wages we could afford and whose owning club arn't a rival to us).  
    Bali Mumba was available from Plymouth, championship experience (50 odd games) left back/ lwb and went for around 1 mill. Is that good enough? 
    He stayed in Div 1 going to Huddesfield. The reports about him suggest something like "he's not the player he was" and is on £15K a week, maybe considered too much of a gamble.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,896
    Maybe we're going 4-2-4 as we ignore our CM's anyway.

    Keeperski

    Ramsay - Burke - Jones - Chambers

    JRC/Carey/Berry - Coventry/Doc/Anderson

    Raptor - Leaburn/Dykes - Kelman/Godden - Campbell/Fullah

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  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 9,070
    The way I'd look at it is that we're not going to shell out a fee in January on someone that's going to be a second choice by the start of next season with Josh back hopefully. Anyone that's available is going to either be short of mins because they're down the pecking order like Clarke was at Ipswich or Bree was or will be coming back from an injury and need minutes like Chambers does. 

    Big game to throw him straight into against Femi Azeez on Saturday as well. Just glad we finally have someone playing there where it's their natural position. 
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,446
    Blimey, so much whinging and whining about us signing a player to fill a position where we need a player. I'm sure that Luke Chambers is professional enough to know that he should never go near any football forums. What at welcome!
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 5,065
    NabySarr said:
    fenaddick said:
    The NTT20 view

    Luke Chambers (LB/CB) - [Liverpool - Charlton] - Loan

    Charlton fans, rejoice. You’ve signed a new left-sided defender! With Tyreece Campbell having to fill in at left wing-back due to Josh Edwards missing a “catastrophic” amount of football (Nathan Jones’ words) and Jérôme Roussillon just… missing, Chambers’ arrival is timely. There is a catch, however: the Liverpool youngster has recently recovered from his own long-term injury.

    Chambers, 21, has previously impressed on loan at Kilmarnock and Wigan. He’s technically good, very composed in possession, and keen to get forward. He isn’t as comfortable going the other way, and can be found wanting in physical duels. Due to his recent injury and lack of game time, it’s hard to imagine him playing week in, week out, but if he can stay fit then Chambers should be a useful addition for the Addicks.

    This really doesn’t fill me with any confidence at all.

    we basically need to get another lb so they can alternate the rest of the season. 

    I agree with some on here that this isn’t the signing we needed in the sense of anyone is better than no one. 

    We should have focused on someone that can play week in week out, there are options out there 
    Can you name some please, players that are available (ie not needed where they are and whose wages we could afford and whose owning club arn't a rival to us).  
    Bali Mumba was available from Plymouth, championship experience (50 odd games) left back/ lwb and went for around 1 mill. Is that good enough? 
    Harry Amass standout at owls on loan from Man U being recalled and reloaded out apparently. Showed he can play well in the championship and is also a left back. A loan would have sorted us out till summer and he has played more or less all championship games 
    Half the championship are after him. People need to understand where we are in the pecking order. That’s not a realistic signing 
    I was asked to name players that fit the criteria we needed who would be better than what we have signed I gave the examples both of them were achievable signings whether you think they aren’t or not. 
    You suggested a league 1 player that isn’t that good defensively, so not really what we need and would be exposed in the championship. Achievable but arguable whether he’s better than Chambers and I don’t think is worth a fee and permanent contract for a player that probably isn’t up to this level 

    And then you suggested a player that plenty of championship clubs with bigger budgets and better prospects are after. That’s not an achievable signing for us 
  • NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    fenaddick said:
    The NTT20 view

    Luke Chambers (LB/CB) - [Liverpool - Charlton] - Loan

    Charlton fans, rejoice. You’ve signed a new left-sided defender! With Tyreece Campbell having to fill in at left wing-back due to Josh Edwards missing a “catastrophic” amount of football (Nathan Jones’ words) and Jérôme Roussillon just… missing, Chambers’ arrival is timely. There is a catch, however: the Liverpool youngster has recently recovered from his own long-term injury.

    Chambers, 21, has previously impressed on loan at Kilmarnock and Wigan. He’s technically good, very composed in possession, and keen to get forward. He isn’t as comfortable going the other way, and can be found wanting in physical duels. Due to his recent injury and lack of game time, it’s hard to imagine him playing week in, week out, but if he can stay fit then Chambers should be a useful addition for the Addicks.

    This really doesn’t fill me with any confidence at all.

    we basically need to get another lb so they can alternate the rest of the season. 

    I agree with some on here that this isn’t the signing we needed in the sense of anyone is better than no one. 

    We should have focused on someone that can play week in week out, there are options out there 
    Can you name some please, players that are available (ie not needed where they are and whose wages we could afford and whose owning club arn't a rival to us).  
    Bali Mumba was available from Plymouth, championship experience (50 odd games) left back/ lwb and went for around 1 mill. Is that good enough? 
    Harry Amass standout at owls on loan from Man U being recalled and reloaded out apparently. Showed he can play well in the championship and is also a left back. A loan would have sorted us out till summer and he has played more or less all championship games 
    Half the championship are after him. People need to understand where we are in the pecking order. That’s not a realistic signing 
    I was asked to name players that fit the criteria we needed who would be better than what we have signed I gave the examples both of them were achievable signings whether you think they aren’t or not. 
    You suggested a league 1 player that isn’t that good defensively, so not really what we need and would be exposed in the championship. Achievable but arguable whether he’s better than Chambers and I don’t think is worth a fee and permanent contract for a player that probably isn’t up to this level 

    And then you suggested a player that plenty of championship clubs with bigger budgets and better prospects are after. That’s not an achievable signing for us 
    He’s played the majority of his career at championship level…. If you ignore that fact then yeah he’s a league one player… 
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 12,147
    Very highly thought of at Wigan if the X comments are anything to go by.
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,366
    It is quite staggering.
    The arrogance of some fans who think they possess greater insight to a players capabilities than the likes of Jones, Chappell and now, Jürgen Klopp.
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,754
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    fenaddick said:
    The NTT20 view

    Luke Chambers (LB/CB) - [Liverpool - Charlton] - Loan

    Charlton fans, rejoice. You’ve signed a new left-sided defender! With Tyreece Campbell having to fill in at left wing-back due to Josh Edwards missing a “catastrophic” amount of football (Nathan Jones’ words) and Jérôme Roussillon just… missing, Chambers’ arrival is timely. There is a catch, however: the Liverpool youngster has recently recovered from his own long-term injury.

    Chambers, 21, has previously impressed on loan at Kilmarnock and Wigan. He’s technically good, very composed in possession, and keen to get forward. He isn’t as comfortable going the other way, and can be found wanting in physical duels. Due to his recent injury and lack of game time, it’s hard to imagine him playing week in, week out, but if he can stay fit then Chambers should be a useful addition for the Addicks.

    This really doesn’t fill me with any confidence at all.

    we basically need to get another lb so they can alternate the rest of the season. 

    I agree with some on here that this isn’t the signing we needed in the sense of anyone is better than no one. 

    We should have focused on someone that can play week in week out, there are options out there 
    Can you name some please, players that are available (ie not needed where they are and whose wages we could afford and whose owning club arn't a rival to us).  
    Bali Mumba was available from Plymouth, championship experience (50 odd games) left back/ lwb and went for around 1 mill. Is that good enough? 
    Harry Amass standout at owls on loan from Man U being recalled and reloaded out apparently. Showed he can play well in the championship and is also a left back. A loan would have sorted us out till summer and he has played more or less all championship games 
    Half the championship are after him. People need to understand where we are in the pecking order. That’s not a realistic signing 
    I was asked to name players that fit the criteria we needed who would be better than what we have signed I gave the examples both of them were achievable signings whether you think they aren’t or not. 
    You suggested a league 1 player that isn’t that good defensively, so not really what we need and would be exposed in the championship. Achievable but arguable whether he’s better than Chambers and I don’t think is worth a fee and permanent contract for a player that probably isn’t up to this level 

    And then you suggested a player that plenty of championship clubs with bigger budgets and better prospects are after. That’s not an achievable signing for us 
    He’s played the majority of his career at championship level…. If you ignore that fact then yeah he’s a league one player… 
    He was exposed as not good enough at Championship level. He was a core part of a team that finished 1 point above the drop, primarily because Birmingham went mad and torpedoed their season with Wayne Rooney, and then was relegated the following season. That's why he's signed for another L1 club
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,186
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    fenaddick said:
    The NTT20 view

    Luke Chambers (LB/CB) - [Liverpool - Charlton] - Loan

    Charlton fans, rejoice. You’ve signed a new left-sided defender! With Tyreece Campbell having to fill in at left wing-back due to Josh Edwards missing a “catastrophic” amount of football (Nathan Jones’ words) and Jérôme Roussillon just… missing, Chambers’ arrival is timely. There is a catch, however: the Liverpool youngster has recently recovered from his own long-term injury.

    Chambers, 21, has previously impressed on loan at Kilmarnock and Wigan. He’s technically good, very composed in possession, and keen to get forward. He isn’t as comfortable going the other way, and can be found wanting in physical duels. Due to his recent injury and lack of game time, it’s hard to imagine him playing week in, week out, but if he can stay fit then Chambers should be a useful addition for the Addicks.

    This really doesn’t fill me with any confidence at all.

    we basically need to get another lb so they can alternate the rest of the season. 

    I agree with some on here that this isn’t the signing we needed in the sense of anyone is better than no one. 

    We should have focused on someone that can play week in week out, there are options out there 
    Can you name some please, players that are available (ie not needed where they are and whose wages we could afford and whose owning club arn't a rival to us).  
    Bali Mumba was available from Plymouth, championship experience (50 odd games) left back/ lwb and went for around 1 mill. Is that good enough? 
    Harry Amass standout at owls on loan from Man U being recalled and reloaded out apparently. Showed he can play well in the championship and is also a left back. A loan would have sorted us out till summer and he has played more or less all championship games 
    Half the championship are after him. People need to understand where we are in the pecking order. That’s not a realistic signing 
    I was asked to name players that fit the criteria we needed who would be better than what we have signed I gave the examples both of them were achievable signings whether you think they aren’t or not. 
    You suggested a league 1 player that isn’t that good defensively, so not really what we need and would be exposed in the championship. Achievable but arguable whether he’s better than Chambers and I don’t think is worth a fee and permanent contract for a player that probably isn’t up to this level 

    And then you suggested a player that plenty of championship clubs with bigger budgets and better prospects are after. That’s not an achievable signing for us 
    He’s played the majority of his career at championship level…. If you ignore that fact then yeah he’s a league one player… 
    He's spent most of his career going in between League One and the Championship, yes in pure number terms he's played more Championship than L1 but there's still a decent amount of L1 in there. You look at the likes of Gillesphey, Carey, even Lloyd Jones and its a very similar pattern overall.
    There's nothing at all to suggest he'd be outstanding at this level, certainly not at this point of his career. He'd be okay as someone to make up numbers most likely but I really don't think we've passed on a diamond in the rough here.
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 5,065
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    fenaddick said:
    The NTT20 view

    Luke Chambers (LB/CB) - [Liverpool - Charlton] - Loan

    Charlton fans, rejoice. You’ve signed a new left-sided defender! With Tyreece Campbell having to fill in at left wing-back due to Josh Edwards missing a “catastrophic” amount of football (Nathan Jones’ words) and Jérôme Roussillon just… missing, Chambers’ arrival is timely. There is a catch, however: the Liverpool youngster has recently recovered from his own long-term injury.

    Chambers, 21, has previously impressed on loan at Kilmarnock and Wigan. He’s technically good, very composed in possession, and keen to get forward. He isn’t as comfortable going the other way, and can be found wanting in physical duels. Due to his recent injury and lack of game time, it’s hard to imagine him playing week in, week out, but if he can stay fit then Chambers should be a useful addition for the Addicks.

    This really doesn’t fill me with any confidence at all.

    we basically need to get another lb so they can alternate the rest of the season. 

    I agree with some on here that this isn’t the signing we needed in the sense of anyone is better than no one. 

    We should have focused on someone that can play week in week out, there are options out there 
    Can you name some please, players that are available (ie not needed where they are and whose wages we could afford and whose owning club arn't a rival to us).  
    Bali Mumba was available from Plymouth, championship experience (50 odd games) left back/ lwb and went for around 1 mill. Is that good enough? 
    Harry Amass standout at owls on loan from Man U being recalled and reloaded out apparently. Showed he can play well in the championship and is also a left back. A loan would have sorted us out till summer and he has played more or less all championship games 
    Half the championship are after him. People need to understand where we are in the pecking order. That’s not a realistic signing 
    I was asked to name players that fit the criteria we needed who would be better than what we have signed I gave the examples both of them were achievable signings whether you think they aren’t or not. 
    You suggested a league 1 player that isn’t that good defensively, so not really what we need and would be exposed in the championship. Achievable but arguable whether he’s better than Chambers and I don’t think is worth a fee and permanent contract for a player that probably isn’t up to this level 

    And then you suggested a player that plenty of championship clubs with bigger budgets and better prospects are after. That’s not an achievable signing for us 
    He’s played the majority of his career at championship level…. If you ignore that fact then yeah he’s a league one player… 
    He plays in league 1 doesn’t he? So he is a league 1 player. He started off at championship clubs, and now like many footballers end up doing he’s fallen to his level and just made a transfer from one league 1 club to another 

    Fair enough for thinking Chambers isn’t a great signing. I’m not too sold on him either but also think we will be bringing in another in that position that is hopefully better. 

    But I’m not sure spending £1m+ on a player that was part of the worst defence in the championship last season and seemingly wasn’t wanted by any championship clubs is a great idea. Particularly when we need a good defensive left wing back, Mumba is great going forward but defensively not good enough for what we need
  • Well our last January Liverpool loan (Millar) did ok for us, so here's hoping. This lad is left sided and has lower league experience and could be another Maatsen, providing balance and skill where we badly need it. But he brings injury baggage with him, and our treatment room is already very busy.  Oh for some Championship veterans who know this league. Are they like hens' teeth? 

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  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 3,854
    Dazzler21 said:
    Maybe we're going 4-2-4 as we ignore our CM's anyway.

    Keeperski

    Ramsay - Burke - Jones - Chambers

    JRC/Carey/Berry - Coventry/Doc/Anderson

    Raptor - Leaburn/Dykes - Kelman/Godden - Campbell/Fullah
    That's a ridiculous formation.





    Aptor would never be included.
  • CaptainRobbo
    CaptainRobbo Posts: 1,349
    Welcome to the madhouse that is CAFC Luke.
    Godspeed.
  • redman
    redman Posts: 5,344
    A lot of negativity on here. Mind you that's not unusual. This guy is highly rated around Liverpool and considered to be a strong possible for future Liverpool squads. 
  • CaptainRobbo
    CaptainRobbo Posts: 1,349
    fenaddick said:
    He can have Roussillon's.
  • First and foremost just excited to have a left sided defender in the door. Granted no champ experience but has at least had senior EFL experience, not like he's fresh out of the academy.

    Do agree with a few concerns about the NTT20 write up - ideally we would have a LWB who is primarily defensively focused and that would free up our preferred approach/formation in attack and perhaps even get Raptor back into the fold.

    But if he can stay fit then there is every chance this is a very good signing. 
  • 2121
    2121 Posts: 1,446
    edited January 22
    I mean, rousillon has more top league experience then our players, has been trying to get fit for 2 months. Made the bench this week. Surely he is near to getting some minutes? Has anyone asked Jones the question?

    unless ive missed something, like hes left lol
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 38,323
    First and foremost just excited to have a left sided defender in the door. Granted no champ experience but has at least had senior EFL experience, not like he's fresh out of the academy.

    Do agree with a few concerns about the NTT20 write up - ideally we would have a LWB who is primarily defensively focused and that would free up our preferred approach/formation in attack and perhaps even get Raptor back into the fold.

    But if he can stay fit then there is every chance this is a very good signing. 
    Or this allows us to play Ramsay or Clarke on the right as a more defensive LWB, and frees Chambers to get forward.

    What definitely wasn't working was any time we've played two defensive WBs.
  • PeaksAndValleys
    PeaksAndValleys Posts: 56
    edited January 22
    Scoham said:
    First and foremost just excited to have a left sided defender in the door. Granted no champ experience but has at least had senior EFL experience, not like he's fresh out of the academy.

    Do agree with a few concerns about the NTT20 write up - ideally we would have a LWB who is primarily defensively focused and that would free up our preferred approach/formation in attack and perhaps even get Raptor back into the fold.

    But if he can stay fit then there is every chance this is a very good signing. 
    Or this allows us to play Ramsay or Clarke on the right as a more defensive LWB, and frees Chambers to get forward.

    What definitely wasn't working was any time we've played two defensive WBs.
    Agreed, but that throws things out of balance. You want TC moving out from second striker to left wing so he can cut in and shoot. If you attack from LWB then presumably TC goes out right and is more crossing than shooting 
  • CaptainRobbo
    CaptainRobbo Posts: 1,349